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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #180 on: October 28, 2009, 07:05:37 PM »
Like this experiment I just completed, using 2 nimh AA batteries, 1 reed and a drive coil to get a simple pulse motor running. The bats are 2.5v in series.
Then I used a diode on one side of the drive coil, and a wire from the other side of the drive coil to charge a separate capacitor with the bemf. The cap gets charged to 25v. Then I added 1 reed close to the rotor that pulses another coil, away from the rotor, and that bemf stored in the first cap is pulsed into the second coil, its bemf is rectified to another cap, which is up to 150v.
Now if I add another reed, coil (away from the rotor), rectifier and cap, will I get 400v to 500v?  This may be what Tito is doing. How far can it go?

Took 5 min since the last line I wrote and added another coil in parallel with the one not near the rotor, coils not identical, and now the output is 210v. All from just using the bemf of the drive coil as a source.

Reeds, I need another reed.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #181 on: October 28, 2009, 07:14:13 PM »
One more thing. I just adjusted the second reed and the output is up to 222v.
I think I will need more heavy duty reeds to handle these voltages, as the second one tends to stick after a bit of 220v +

I am going to give the 3rd stage a shot in a lil bit when I get another reed.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #182 on: October 29, 2009, 05:58:55 AM »

Ok, I uploaded a vid on the 2 stage setup. I had a bit of reed problems and when the rotor is running it covers my voice a bit, but I think it shows what is going on. Ill do a cleaner vid tomorrow if necessary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOx4rbMtj60
I think a 3rd stage will pop something. The way its going, a 3rd stage could give 2700v, about.

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« Reply #182 on: October 29, 2009, 05:58:55 AM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #183 on: October 29, 2009, 10:53:49 AM »
Like this experiment I just completed, using 2 nimh AA batteries, 1 reed and a drive coil to get a simple pulse motor running. The bats are 2.5v in series.
Then I used a diode on one side of the drive coil, and a wire from the other side of the drive coil to charge a separate capacitor with the bemf. The cap gets charged to 25v. Then I added 1 reed close to the rotor that pulses another coil, away from the rotor, and that bemf stored in the first cap is pulsed into the second coil, its bemf is rectified to another cap, which is up to 150v.
Now if I add another reed, coil (away from the rotor), rectifier and cap, will I get 400v to 500v?  This may be what Tito is doing. How far can it go?

Took 5 min since the last line I wrote and added another coil in parallel with the one not near the rotor, coils not identical, and now the output is 210v. All from just using the bemf of the drive coil as a source.

Reeds, I need another reed.

Magluvin

Hi there!  ;D

very good !!! see the amplification?

the only thing now is the controlling mechanism ok, and that is easy

its fun isn't it  ;D

just be careful cause its dangerous  ;D

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #184 on: October 29, 2009, 11:00:54 AM »
Tito
Can this idea you have going, be used in lets say a bedini circuit to improve upon it?
Thanks
Magluvin

big yes! of course, and  possibilities are unlimited


hi! everyone, try to used also some hinges and carbon rod for a heavy duty contacts ok. ready made from hardware  ;D

just make a simple push ok  ;D

i'm telling you they are very cheap  ;D

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« Reply #185 on: October 29, 2009, 11:49:06 AM »

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« Reply #186 on: October 29, 2009, 12:11:05 PM »
Hi there!  ;D

very good !!! see the amplification?


Hi Tito,

We have seen voltage amplification so far but the title of this thread is Energy amplification.  Unfortunately the two are different.

It would be very convincing to make some real input -- output power measurement comparisons. 

If it is difficult to make, then just feed back some part of the output power to the input via a (preferably stabilized) DC-DC converter which may be a simple power supply able to receive 250-300V DC input from one of the capacitors and downconvert it to the needed 3-5V DC.  Computer power supply from the junk stores or television  or CRT monitors input power supplies include such working circuits right after their mains input connection.

I do not wish to be a naysayer here of course, once you show voltage amplification, I can say yes that is correct but what about the energy levels involved?

Thanks, Gyula

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« Reply #187 on: October 29, 2009, 12:31:54 PM »
I think energy amplification is done this way (this is my theory only):
1.You step up voltage a lot - probably to kV range
2. You have to step up or create higher frequency also
3. You inject small amount of charge from primary or from any other source (ground,air,plasma)
4. You are doing ping-pong with that charge between two points (like for example ground and ball capacitor) at chosen frequency - that why voltage is no enough, you need high frequency and correct one to do this
5.On the way of bounced charges (which run fast due to voltage and run back and forth due to highe frequency and resonance WITH THE LENGTH OF PATH) there is a load

I think this theory is simple and clear and I found it very convincing. Of course this is open path technology, but if you are stubborn you can make instead of "ping -ping" - a flow always in one direction in circle : vide TPU. The output in first case is HF HV and need probably some additional tricks to power loads (because it looks and resembles static charge ) - Tesla said you need to match load impedance (vide hairpin circuit), in case of TPU thing is simpler - you see large DC current.

Damn, I wish I could be a better practician ! Unfortunately I have "two left hands" and all I do right is investigations and  theories  :'(

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #188 on: October 29, 2009, 01:50:41 PM »
my device is something like this ok

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3493651/diy_free_energy_watch_how_to_build_electro_magnetic_generator_and_light_up_your_house_for_free/

i mean, it work like this ok.

@Tito L. Oracion

That video shows more of a Newman design. You can use the Tesla Ozone design to run the drive motor and the Newman design to generate output. Hmmmmm. Interesting.

@Magluvin

Nice video with some nice toys to play around with. A few pages back I referred to the following to show how to drive a reed switch and differences of methods for reed longevity. Plus this can give you more point for flyback return.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg129703#msg129703

Also, @gyulasun is right to say this is voltage. I have had voltage rises going up to 1500 volts. It is a good way to see how things work, and then you can work out how to concentrate the voltage into more amperage afterward.

Also, may I give you an idea about your battery power supply. In our circuits, most battery power comes in as a side stream so the higher system voltage rises are isolated from the few volts coming from the battery. But those batteries can be put in line, even with the high voltage rise. I have put 110volts through those batteries and lit some bulbs, not to full power but to see that such batteries can simply stay in line, even if there is voltage rise in that same line once the circuit is running. It becomes more of a permanently charged capacitor ready to start up the device, and stay inline as part of the voltage rise.

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« Reply #189 on: October 29, 2009, 03:16:03 PM »
gyulasun

My setup is not just voltage amplification. If I were to switch the diode on the driver circuit the other way around, I would get 250v just from the drive circuit into the cap without the 2nd stage, but try to run a load on that, nadda. By having the diode going the other way as I have it, Im only turning 2.5v into 25, but I am driving a second stage from it. Right now I have a huge .9 ohm audio coil on the second stage and it is putting out 270v. If I put a 10k resistor across the 2nd stage cap, I get 25v  and a 1k resistor , I still have 5v. If I reverse the drive circuit diode to produce 250v into a cap, not having the 2nd stage, if I put a "10k res". across the cap, I would be lucky to have 1v. Try it. It works.
So I am getting more current handling on my output than the normal bemf capture setups, even with bridge rectifiers. If I can drive a third stage, there just might be some magic there.
The third stage is coming soon.  =]

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #190 on: October 29, 2009, 03:32:08 PM »
Hey Watts thanks.
My reeds are only .5a from reed relays at RS. I need more current handling.
I found a co. that has an great assortment to choose from. I need to get some.
I dont know how it is doing it but I got a big audio coil, .9 ohm on the second stage and the reed is holding up better than with a finer coil with more turns. And Im still getting 270v on the 2nd stage output. Its just silly.
It seems like the more turns on the second stage, the less output. Thats why in my vid I had the trifi all in parallel, more output. Im going to try some other coils today and see what I come up with. I know that big audio coil would fry my AA's as a driver coil. So there is something to this.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #191 on: October 29, 2009, 05:53:13 PM »
@Magluvin

If you are looking to order reed switches, maybe try and find a few three-ways or SPDT type. You can do so many things with them. Here is one example.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3972.msg84982#msg84982
Last diagram of this post.

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« Reply #192 on: October 29, 2009, 10:01:58 PM »
Hey Watts
I like those reeds. Be great for sync pulses.
Thanks
Mags

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #193 on: October 30, 2009, 09:21:35 AM »
Hi Tito,

We have seen voltage amplification so far but the title of this thread is Energy amplification.  Unfortunately the two are different.

It would be very convincing to make some real input -- output power measurement comparisons. 

If it is difficult to make, then just feed back some part of the output power to the input via a (preferably stabilized) DC-DC converter which may be a simple power supply able to receive 250-300V DC input from one of the capacitors and downconvert it to the needed 3-5V DC.  Computer power supply from the junk stores or television  or CRT monitors input power supplies include such working circuits right after their mains input connection.

I do not wish to be a naysayer here of course, once you show voltage amplification, I can say yes that is correct but what about the energy levels involved?

Thanks, Gyula


hi sir

voltage is seen amplified, i think sir wattsup can answer you how to make a  lot of current ok.  ;D

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #194 on: October 30, 2009, 09:31:59 AM »

hi sir

voltage is seen amplified, i think sir wattsup can answer you how to make a  lot of current ok.  ;D

hmm..is that something related to magnet ? maybe coil wound on magnet or something like that. I remember that someone said something about switching on/off strong magnetic field of neo magnet with Tesla coil

 

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