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Offline gsmsslsb

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #135 on: October 14, 2009, 01:28:09 PM »
some part you are correct, actually you are making it complicated its just easy ok.  ;D

by the way i'm not using spark gap better to use diode and capacitor and magnet ok.


I am trying to grasp how the diode, capacitor and magnet take the place of the spark gap to supply a disruptive discharge.
One of the only things that I can remember that uses a capacitor and spark gap is the free energy generator from tom bearden. With the magnetic field from the magnet and the electric field from the capacitor crossing eachother but as far as I know noone has ben able to harvest the energy.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #136 on: October 15, 2009, 12:23:57 AM »
when we put electrolytic cap in reverse polarity to normal electric circuit it would blow or be damaged but .... maybe there is a possibility to charge it that way really really fast and it will do something inside and become charged as always  ? is this possible ?

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #137 on: October 15, 2009, 02:43:30 AM »
@forest
Interesting idea but why electrolytic cap? one could use a normal one.

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Offline forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #138 on: October 15, 2009, 10:11:39 AM »
@forest
Interesting idea but why electrolytic cap? one could use a normal one.

look at bearden schematic with deganerative semiconductor

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #139 on: October 15, 2009, 08:48:26 PM »
can you charge capacitor faster then current can flow inside ? like Bearden said - by using only potential to realign the rest of electrons which are there for sure

how ?
is there a method of charging capacitor which is faster then relaxation time ? how we can charge capacitor with very short and rapidly changing voltage spike to full capacity in short time ? can we convert HV spike into constant current just inside capacitor ? what is equal to charging capacitor with constant current for infinite time while being a finite short time action?

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Offline gsmsslsb

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #140 on: October 16, 2009, 06:33:53 AM »
can you charge capacitor faster then current can flow inside ? like Bearden said - by using only potential to realign the rest of electrons which are there for sure

how ?
is there a method of charging capacitor which is faster then relaxation time ? how we can charge capacitor with very short and rapidly changing voltage spike to full capacity in short time ? can we convert HV spike into constant current just inside capacitor ? what is equal to charging capacitor with constant current for infinite time while being a finite short time action?

After reading teslas ozone patent I think that may be what is happening.
He is using the spike from the colapsing field in thr motor windings and the coil to chage the cap.
then he dumps that from the cap through the primary of the coil.
Maybe this is what Tito L Oracion is doing.
That way you can just stack them up as many times as you need to with each cap dumping into a coil and collecting the spike in another cap.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #141 on: October 16, 2009, 11:59:08 AM »
Maybe the trick is in the dielectric.

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Offline forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #142 on: October 16, 2009, 12:37:52 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/user/NRGFromTheVacuum#p/u/10/2cUS03yNl40

maybe the trick is to charge capacitor with very fast voltage spike across changing in time resistance which depends on voltage

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« Reply #143 on: October 16, 2009, 06:34:59 PM »
Ok forest. I saw this video over a year ago but I did not give it much credibility yet you seem so sure. I just bought some huge capacitors. If it is so easy, we shall all be having free electricity by Xmas!

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Offline samedsoft

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #144 on: October 16, 2009, 07:07:18 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/user/NRGFromTheVacuum#p/u/10/2cUS03yNl40

maybe the trick is to charge capacitor with very fast voltage spike across changing in time resistance which depends on voltage

Can you use same capacitor on both sides. And start with with one cap at 24 V?

After you charge other one to 200 Volts you can show on camera.. Then you discharge charged cap to 0 and do it again...

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« Reply #145 on: October 16, 2009, 07:45:22 PM »
Here is a better one : http://www.youtube.com/user/NRGFromTheVacuum#p/u/0/Q6q77SZlE4Y

Look at the end for schematic, it's now more clear then previous , I hope this is still the same effect.

I saw all those videos last year and overlooked one fact.
This capacitor is never connected to battery source in closed loop !
In fact each time when it is connected to battery - it's also SHORTED!

So - YES ! it is Bearden method of charging without current ! Current flow through the coil and back to the battery while in the same time capacitor is in short-circuit.

Did I overlooked something ?

Once Tito said something about WING EDGE effect, and if you follow other thread there is Ali who invented electrical analogy to siphon effect.
Maybe it's one and the same ?

A spike of current flow through the coil and meet capacitor. Now there are where Wing Edge or Spihon effect HAS TO occur. I really have no explanation what is going on later..I have just a few ideas.At least 3 he he  ;D


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« Reply #145 on: October 16, 2009, 07:45:22 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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« Reply #147 on: October 16, 2009, 09:12:03 PM »
One thing about the 3 metals vid, is the input voltage is different for each one. When he did the copper, the input was 3v higher than the others, which could make up the difference in the outcome.
But I am liking this whole idea beyond that vid.
I suppose the capacitor dumping into the coil has much more brute force compared to a battery. So the impedance initially will be greater at the coil using a cap instead of the battery, thus not much being taken from the cap compared to the battery, but the effect is greater.
Keep it up guys, this is very good. =]
Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #148 on: October 16, 2009, 10:19:25 PM »
@ Forest

I very much liked reading the - a bumble bee shouldn't be able to fly - you posted and the Wing Edge effect, I watched the video and took a screen capture of the circuit (see below).

I'm also attaching a picture from Tesla's patent 577670  as I can see a Wing Edge effect because in this patent Tesla was using a 1/3 ON to 2/3 OFF timing circuit which is like an energy pump to the capacitor(s) rapidly firing while also charging the next cap in succession, the circuit is brilliant!

The third pic I'm attaching may not be relevant, it's been on my mind for awhile just never tried it.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2009, 12:28:31 AM by Goat »

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #149 on: October 17, 2009, 12:27:55 AM »
@ All

Can anyone replicate Tesla's patent in the Tesla_577670.jpg image to a solid state circuit?

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Paul

 

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