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Author Topic: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?  (Read 105227 times)

Offline woodpecker

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2009, 09:24:43 AM »
@ ramset,  Yes and you know, i also made tests, where i came straight down to the surface of the water, and absolutely no water could come into the torch, and i had the same reaction, but i did`nt film.
It is the hottest spot of the flame and this point is quite at the point where the flame starts.
And when the same reaction happens under the water, then we can get lots of unburned hydrogen out of it. I already experienced it:  i had the flame under the water and immediately big bubbles coming up, i lit ed them and bang!

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2009, 09:24:43 AM »

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #61 on: March 08, 2009, 10:57:33 AM »
I've read all this post and it still not clear for me. Does it work or not? And if it does how much doest it cost for me to make one at home?

Thanks for any answer :)

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2009, 12:13:05 PM »
Loki
The concept is good ,This heater they are selling ,I have not purchased their info[because they use electrolyte[poison to breath]

Doing this with pure water is my goal[no poison ] . WE are learning here [very fast ]look at browns gas
And also look at woodpeckers video's[AMAZING ]
This will happen and will be shared OPEN SOURCE at this Forum

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2009, 12:13:05 PM »
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Offline lokiju

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2009, 10:01:29 AM »
Thank you for an answer.

Ok, i'm not an expert of any kind in this area, just heard about HHO 3 days ago when i've read an article about HHOHHU.com

I'm sitting for a two days and looking for various articles about hho and any info about hhohhu. So far for me it seems that they are just cheaters who would like to steel my money (wish i was wrong):

1. They sell just plans, not do it yourself kits or made devices;
2. People that buy their plans find then inadequate + it seems that they must buy some parts from them.
3. In all this time there is not a single unit created and posted on internet. Its either - it simply doesnt work or too hard to make.
4. There are no efficiency or any other kind of measures (not talking about independly verified).
5. Creators of hhohhu device are very unprofessional in their letters, do not answer to any question about device and its characteristics, even do not understand some terms commonly used in determining efficiency, they are not even talking about how much parts (that they claim could be bought in stores) would cost...

One of the most interesting points is - company that makes Brown gas devices havent created a heater of any kind (just cutters of metal, etc). So its either they overlooked it  (not likely so) or it's not efficient.

Bottom line - from great enthusiasm i had when i learner about such heater and was ready to by already made one or buy  "do it yourself kit" i went down to "its another one of these thieves..." that would like to take your money for some illusion (you may find many of such "plans" on internet). Although the technology (HHO) i've learned is very impressive and may have many possibilities.

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2009, 11:22:22 PM »
Hi All,

They answered my question about technical data:
"452 watts power draw will heat an area rateed for 40000 btu".
Strait convesion give 11,731 kW!
Someone else invoked 1000 sq. feets = ca 92 sq. meters.
All from 4 l/min. = 240 l/h  HHO gas?
Cells use 12V x 25 A = 300W.
Efficiency 300Wh / 240 l = 1,25 W / 1L.
COP = 2,15 W / 1,25W = 1,72. not bad without
resonance or pulsed power supply.
Key here is the heat exchanging, without kalorimetric mesures we
will don't know.
Their claim for 1000 sq, feets seems to be good for very hot countries,
not for eg. UK.

Kolec

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2009, 11:22:22 PM »
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Offline kampen

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2009, 07:31:16 PM »
@ all,

Just wondering how to ignite (safely) the Oxy-Hydrogen.
Any advise/help is welcome.

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2009, 07:45:18 PM »

A pilot light or an electronic spark will give you your ignition...as long as the flow of your fuel is controlled (fuel line) there will be no safety concerns.

Regards...


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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2009, 07:45:18 PM »
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Offline kampen

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2009, 08:01:32 PM »
Thanks Cap-Z-ro for the reply.
I want to make a Hydrogen Water Heater (Boiler)
Need a fail-safe ignition and flame supervision with auto shut-down.
Do you know/recommend any commercial ready availabel module for this.
Appreciate your help.

Offline albator10

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2009, 10:21:11 PM »
Hi all !

I have bought the plan and video and I am building the unit.

The plan are not very well made, but they have answered all my question very fast.

I will come back in 2-3 weeks with some picture and data when I will have finish to build the furnace

Regards

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2009, 10:21:11 PM »
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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #69 on: March 24, 2009, 10:47:53 PM »

@ Kampen...I would think any propane ignition system would do.

Also, albator10 should have a few answers as soon he completes his build.

Regards...


Offline bunster0

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #70 on: April 10, 2009, 04:17:58 AM »
The complete running unit is for sale now! The new unit pulls less watts and builds more heat. go to www.hhohhu.com for complete details

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #70 on: April 10, 2009, 04:17:58 AM »
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Offline epwpixieq-1

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #71 on: April 10, 2009, 06:04:41 PM »
Hi,

I started as most of you (very enthusiastic) and have bought the plans and 2 hydrogen cells from them. Since that time ( a moth ago ) I found out that there are a lot of variables that are not mentioned in the tutorials and the movies. The info on the website is quite entertaining but unprofessional.

Here is what I have done so far with the parts I bought from them (look at the picture). This is created with 2 cells. Every one of them having around 16 A on 11.7 V

My biggest disappointment is with the cells they sell ( in addition to their plans and movie tutorials). The cells are unconditioned ( please google this process and you will find out a lot more ). I am not claiming anything on their output for my low litter per minute (LPM), around 1L, from 2 cells may be coming from my inability to adjust the system. But I can say that their cells are unconditioned. The process for conditioning takes several days so it is normal from "a profit standpoint" that this is not done. I am not sure also about the grade of their stainless steal. Actually, running side by side, I have found out that the cells from NanoStart ( if you are interested google it ) behave a lot better in the production of gas and the plate reaction to the electrolyte (around 15% KOH) than the one sold by the home heaters guys. This my observation is due to 4 days conditioning for the different cell types.

My advice for the experimenters is to read this file http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf. It does not cost $40 and it is A LOT MORE useful. After that they can decide ( if they feel a need ) to buy the files sold by the heating unit guys and decide which info is more useful.  It is not about building heating unit but about making a very efficient cell. Although the process is given not for a dry cell the same useful knowledge/skills can be applied to building a dry cell. Please spend time reading for it helps a lot.

Regards,
« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 08:34:39 PM by epwpixieq-1 »


Offline PYRODIN123321

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #73 on: April 29, 2009, 05:29:45 PM »
saw this article on hydrogen....seemed appropriate

http://www.physorg.com/news84421033.html

Offline gergely

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #74 on: November 27, 2011, 09:13:51 PM »
I already experienced it:  i had the flame under the water and immediately big bubbles coming up, i lit ed them and bang!

That's it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxPiiSqHQlU&feature=related
Woodpecker,
have you tried to measure/collect/estimate the amount of gas produced by the submerged flame?

Anyway, this topic seems abandoned. Everyone'd gone way over unity or just exploded?

 

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