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Author Topic: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?  (Read 128847 times)

hartiberlin

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HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« on: February 06, 2009, 06:59:24 AM »
Hi All,
please have a look at the videos of:

http://www.hhohhu.com

http://www.hhohhu.com/v1.htm
http://www.hhohhu.com/v2.htm
http://www.hhohhu.com/v3.htm

Did somebody yet check out their
plans ?

They say, that they need about the power
for a PC ( 100 to 300 Watts ?) to run this heater...
(Elektrolyzer)

Will it really have more heat power output
than electrical input power ?

That would be really great !

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2009, 12:03:06 PM »
Very Interesting, and professional...

OU, I dunno?  They are changing the state of matter, so I think it has a good chance...

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2009, 04:13:26 PM »
Stefan

Has to be possible VERY efficient

He seems to be using copper catalyst [a 300 degree HHo flame in atmosphere will melt Titanium [3100F]

Thats  10 times more out than in

This is what the Korean is selling here

 http://www.browngas.com/eng_bestkorea/history_1.htm
> HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
    Chet
Time to build

« Last Edit: February 07, 2009, 01:17:17 AM by ramset »

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 04:16:24 PM »
They say they have an "online shop" for part sales. Does anyone know the URL..

EDIT: This thread was interesting.. http://www.hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=2132

One thread it's 300w consumption on the other it's 700w
« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 04:52:49 PM by mindsweeper »

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 04:45:59 PM »
Of course they won't be selling a completely built working unit. That would be too easy.

Right away a red flag pops up in my mind: Fake! Fake! Fake!

I hope that I am wrong.


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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2009, 04:59:08 PM »
RES

Think about the process

Its like the ultralight aircraft industry  LIABILITY LAWYERS

If you sell plans or partial kits with disclaimer

DOABLE

Sell finished units NOT Doable  U L  BLDG CODES Insurance product liability ETC

None of which applies to a homeowner after reading a disclaimer and building it himself

Of course if he has a fire

He has no claim

 Chet

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2009, 05:06:04 PM »
RES
Think about the process
Its like the ultralight aircraft industry  LIABILITY LAWYERS
If you sell plans or partial kits with disclaimer
DOABLE
Sell finished units NOT Doable  U L  BLDG CODES Insurance product liability ETC
None of which applies to a homeowner after reading a disclaimer and building it himself
Of course if he has a fire
He has no claim
 Chet

Is that how the ultra-light aircraft industry works? I didn't know that.

Well the liability problem makes sense, but then there are risks to the builder. See, it makes it seem potentially unsafe. I hope I am wrong and that they do develop a true working unit that they would sell on its own. Then I might consider it.

Thanks for the comment Chet.

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2009, 05:15:24 PM »
RES

You are absolutely correct

Done improperly its an accident going somewhere to happen

Going through the underwriters lab, state and federal building codes ,then getting manufacturers insurance[on an unknown no history product]

These are things that anyone who brings a product to market, have to address

Or do it like these guys
 
    Chet
« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 08:23:47 PM by ramset »

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2009, 04:18:25 AM »
It is an hho torch running off 2 4x4 9 plate cells. The torch is heating a heat exchanger made up of 25 copper 1/2" tubes. and some fans to push the air. Power comes from a 700w computer power supply. It seems possible. Just a question of how much heat it will actually give off. Could use some saftey features. Only has your standard bubbler and flashback arrestor.

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2009, 05:03:02 AM »
Pmaz
Do you know are they using an electrolyte?
They don't require venting[so they say] Unless their using straight water [would be very surprised]
Chlorine or carbon monoxide are typical byproducts of electrolytes
The Anomaly of HHO and different metals is what gives this the magic
             Chet

The Koreans I believe use straight water in theirs
 http://www.browngas.com/eng_bestkorea/history_1.htm
« Last Edit: February 08, 2009, 05:30:13 AM by ramset »

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2009, 11:17:12 AM »
40$ is no money at all for the video tutorials with parts list and all, heck they could be charging much more. The people yelling scam are just full of BS. If this can heat an entire home I might try and build one.

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2009, 02:15:24 PM »
You're right broli, I am looking forward to you purchasing those plans and building the unit. Afterall, like you wrote, "$40 is no money at all..."

Let us know how it goes.

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2009, 03:23:07 PM »
Broli

Ill split it with you
Only if there using straight water
Chet

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2009, 03:25:25 PM »
some interesting inventions /knowledges here
http://www.browngas.com/eng_bestkorea/history_1.htm

from hhohhu you find mor in te center of tis link
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somes more
 

DAEWOO
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HHO related news try
http://www.extremehho.com/news.html

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Re: HHOHHU.com HHO heater. Is it overunity ?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2009, 09:05:04 PM »
Certainly a good idea, to diffuse the great heat of the HHO flame with these coppertubes.
For me it does not look,as they need so much gas.
Have a look at my picture of a HHO flame and compare it. For this flame i had about 3 l/min 260Watt

woodpecker