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Title: simple free-energy generator
Post by: schmoe on December 30, 2005, 09:53:18 PM
see the attachment please (xxx.txt).
and view with a *fixed width* font.

i seriously would like to see a
well founded criticism ...  thanks.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: oouthere on December 31, 2005, 06:55:50 PM
The only flaw I see is there is there no such thing as a magnetic blocking alloy.  Sort of like the alloy in the movie "The Core", the alloy Unobtainium is hard to come-by.

Rich
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: schmoe on December 31, 2005, 07:29:57 PM
sure there are magnetic-field blocking alloys,
the most well known being "MuMetal", which is
about 80% nickel and 20% iron.  there is also
a glass that acts similarly.  they both can
block over 95% of a magnetic field.

just do a search on "magnetic field shielding"
to learn more about these types of materials.

THANKS!  i truly value your criticism.
free energy seems too simple to me at this
time - this device is too easy to make/understand.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: oouthere on December 31, 2005, 11:02:23 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, they don't really block the magnetism but simply disperse it.  Rather like a heatsink.  The magnet will still be attracted to the shield but the magnetism will be dispersed on a wider area and not allowing as dense of a flux to pass to the other side.  I'm poor at explainations....but think of a 1,000 gauss magnet on a 1" area being shielded by a 6" magnetic shield.  The attractive pressure to the shield will be the same but the flux will be reduced to 1/6 per square inch.

There's always the possibility of me being wrong......

Rich
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: oouthere on December 31, 2005, 11:09:42 PM
Don Smith had the same thought, but it did not work irregardless of what the text states.

http://www.altenergy-pro.com/device09-1.htm

Rich
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: schmoe on December 31, 2005, 11:16:17 PM
magnetic fields are "conducted" thru metal,
they don't penetrate thru metals generally
speaking.  you can visualize the effect by
picturing a 2x4 laid on top of a balloon.
the balloon wouldn't reach out the other
side of the 2x4, but would appear "flattened",
which is how a magnetic field looks when you
place an iron bar on top of a magnet.  what
makes MuMetal (and similar alloys) unique, is
that they don't magnetize themselves (eg, create
their own magnetic field) in the process of
conducting a magnetic field.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: schmoe on December 31, 2005, 11:21:10 PM
Don Smith had the same thought, but it did not work irregardless of what the text states.

http://www.altenergy-pro.com/device09-1.htm

i do not see any mention of the material used
for his "shielding", nor any mention of MuMetal.
unfortunately, i don't have graphics, and i can't
gather enough from the explanation at the link above
to understand this device, or understand why it may
or may not work -- i am using a Lynx text browser.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: schmoe on December 31, 2005, 11:38:39 PM
the concept i put forth should work to
varying degrees regardless of the quality
of the shielding so long as as some degree
of shielding is in effect, so long as the
south poles in the "rim" have a more
powerful magnetic field exposed than
the north poles.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: oouthere on December 31, 2005, 11:48:37 PM
I have a hard copy but it's no longer on the web.  The basic idea is using neo magnets as a core for a coil (that is what is inside the white tubes in the picture).  The two cores are brought close together so they combine flux densities, a rotating blade of magnetorestrictive metal (Don's words) is ran between the two cores which causes a drop in flux thus inducing potential in the coil.  That was the theory and he built several but none worked.

The most promising imo is the Kromrey Generator in which John Bedini managed over 1,200% over unity.  He found the patent intentionally flawed but hasn't released the details and I'm not bright enough to figure the problem out.

Rich
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: schmoe on January 01, 2006, 12:01:41 AM
his device is not the same as i suggested.
i am generating movement (a spinning top),
and he was trying to generate electricty via
induction from what i can understand -- and
i think i see why his idea did not work - eg,
turning flux on-and-off is not the same as a
conductor moving thru a magnetic field, nor
is it the same as moving a magnetic field
thru a conductor -- a magnetic field doesn't
"move" when it is cut on-and-off.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: r8rchris on January 17, 2006, 04:49:54 PM
Hello all, I have some input on a free energy generator I have seen done. It is well known that if you turn a 3 phase motor at rated rpm, voltage will be generated in windings and can be read with meter at un-terminated connections. With some machine work done to rotor you can have magnets lathed in rotor and replace stationary core with opposing magnets. Shazam, free energy generator!! (the hardest part is locking and pressing rotor in to end bells,as much force is trying to turn rotor before it is complete) I had some pictures if anyone is intested e-mail me and I'll find them.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: FreeEnergy on January 17, 2006, 09:29:24 PM
please post picture(s) in forum.
thanks.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: hartiberlin on January 20, 2006, 02:01:09 PM
Yes, please uploadyour pictures over here.
Did you test run your motor/generator already ?
What is the output/input ?
Thanks !

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: r8rchris on January 22, 2006, 04:47:00 AM
Here are some pictures of the magnet generator
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Post by: lancaIV on January 22, 2006, 02:05:06 PM
Question:Robert W. Alexander(US3913004),functional ?
You give me the answer,many thanks !
Sincerely
            de Lanca
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: r8rchris on January 23, 2006, 04:57:10 PM
de, Lanca, I did not build this generator. All I know is what was posted. I can verify that a 3phase motor turned at rated rpm will generate a working voltage. So if the magnets spin it fast enough it will work.
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: lancaIV on January 23, 2006, 10:59:28 PM
Accepted,no problem !
I did not said that you reproduced this patent or other publications !
You posted also ever "AC"-based,the Alexander-concept is "DC"-based !

I thank you because your configuration-work-out !
 
Sincerely
            de Lanca 
Title: Re: simple free-energy generator
Post by: Elvis Oswald on February 08, 2006, 07:23:11 AM
Whatever material you use to shunt the magnetic field, in order to reduce impact on the south pole magnets upon approach would probably require a unique design - since you are not completely surrounding the 'base magnet' - and I'll have to think some more on what they design considerations would have to be.

I'm also thinking that the base magnets would have to be strong... and that would complicate your shunting efforts.