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Author Topic: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel  (Read 29150 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Just in:

Dear friends,

we are glad to inform and present you a paper written by the American scientist, Peter Lindemann, D.Sc. considering the famous invention of Bessler's Wheel and possible solutions for its re-evolution with the inspiration found in the ideas like Veljko Milkovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator is.


Peter Lindemann, D.Sc. - The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel

 

You can read the paper on the next link (1.25 MB - PDF):
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Dr_Peter_Lindemann_Mechanical_Engine.pdf

In the same time we are inviting you to visit great new web-site of Peter Lindemann, D.Sc. www.free-energy.ws with many new texts and articles on new technologies and free eneregy issues.
Kind regards.
 
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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 07:01:33 PM »
Nice find Stefan,

I wonder if he's built it ?

Shame it's hard to design in WM2D but I'm sure someone will have a go at a modified design..

EDIT: added image from PDF
« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 08:12:15 PM by mindsweeper »

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2009, 09:30:23 PM »
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As of this writing, the Mechanical Engine has not been built and tested. The purpose of publishing the design “unproven” is to encourage its broad circulation among researchers, worldwide, without the burden of making claims and presenting proofs. It’s a theory. At some point, the operational status of this design will become known. If you choose to withhold judgment until then, that is fine. But if you see the possibilities, you are invited to get involved by building one, or spreading the word.
There are those who will reject this thesis outright, without even considering the design and the mechanical forces involved. They will site various Laws of Thermodynamics and be content in their world view. This is not science, but it is typical of human nature.

Is this to imply that I can now talk freely of this device and receive recognition for my efforts for which I am not recognized for in this article?

Cc to Peter Lindemann via private mail
Ralph Lortie   

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2009, 09:30:23 PM »
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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2009, 09:40:53 PM »
Did Bessler not advertise his wheel as a "pendulum wheel" when he invited the 1st group of people to his house for demonstration, I think he did.

@rlortie, if this is your design then hats off to you, it's a marvelous design and I hope people will build and hopefully prove the design.

Great work.

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 09:47:12 PM »
Due to personal emotions derived from reading the above paper, I currently withhold my input regarding this thread.

I do ask that members such as AB Hammer and other builders, scrutinize it carefully and post your findings. I will respond in due time with reservation.

Ralph

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 09:57:21 PM »
What an unexpected post,  :-\

rlortie, you should be proud, I feel backing off now will only cause to confuse and cast doubt...

hey ho...

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 10:08:36 PM »
Did Bessler not advertise his wheel as a "pendulum wheel" when he invited the 1st group of people to his house for demonstration, I think he did.

@rlortie, if this is your design then hats off to you, it's a marvelous design and I hope people will build and hopefully prove the design.

@mindsweeper,

No! this is not my design and I wish to state that with great adamant!  I believe in giving credit where and when due, something some appear to ignore or intentionally avoid.

Yes I have been involved with the design and have had  it in my possession since shortly after the dates given on the paper.  I will divulge more if and when this thread becomes more analytical involved.

As for Bessler, his opening words to get your attention and interest was: "My machine will barely run with one cross bar, but when I add more".... Not an exact quote but close, thanks to John Collins.

Ralph     

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009, 10:13:36 PM »
Rlortie:
     My wheel will barely run with one weight set too. Add the second and your off and running.
My wheel is electric assisted tho, so a different animal it is.

thaelin

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 10:17:49 PM »
Personally the C/M is without doubt offset, the question is will the pendulum have enough energy from the spring to return to the capture ratchet.

I cannot say and am attempting to replicate in WM2D but it's a hard design to replicate.

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 10:37:41 PM »
At point #3, that ball WILL NOT reach the ratchet because it has to swing back against the wheel that is turning clockwise (hope it's turing clockwise). Since that is the main point where any potential gain can occur, this design, in my opinion, is a medium maybe.

The other and greatest point is the ball (weight transfer) to wheel weight (momentum) ratio. The balls should be a good 2-3 times bigger then drawn to help create any meaningful momentum. I learned that one the hard way. This means if the ball at #3 position is the only chance to create an off balance, then that off balance has to be greater then all the friction of the wheel including the friction involved incluing at #2 to release the ball.

But I like the design.

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 11:09:19 PM »
Personally the C/M is without doubt offset, the question is will the pendulum have enough energy from the spring to return to the capture ratchet.

I cannot say and am attempting to replicate in WM2D but it's a hard design to replicate.

I like AB Hammer am a hands on researcher, I do not know diddly squat regarding WM2D. I do however agree that it would be interesting to hear if you can duplicate it and advise of your results.

I have already formed my opinion, and wish for others to objectively post their findings without my bias. After all I may have missed something.

Also keep in mind that I was placed under an oath of confidence never to reveal anything regarding this design or its inventor. In fact after finalizing my work, I was asked to destroy it and all pertinent communication, which I did.

Ralph
« Last Edit: February 04, 2009, 02:49:48 AM by rlortie »

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 11:33:28 PM »
G'day all,

Will NOT work. The position of the pendulum in segment 3 is not achievable with the device as drawn. The energy imparted to the spring is insufficient.

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2009, 12:05:35 AM »
Maybe a dumb question (and YES there are some, lol): Is this thing supposed to rotate (which would impart additional pendulum energy to each specific segment as it did), or does it remain relatively static?

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2009, 12:39:15 AM »
G'day all,

Will NOT work. The position of the pendulum in segment 3 is not achievable with the device as drawn. The energy imparted to the spring is insufficient.

Hans von Lieven

Thank you Hans,  you have clipped a good portion off the tip of the iceberg, need not stop here as there is still plenty afloat.

Ralph

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Re: Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2009, 01:15:17 AM »
Greetings Ralph and all

 I have looked at the wheel and I find it interesting and a fair amount of work went into it. A look with my grid only shows a single point of advantage due to the swing and that normally gets eat up by friction. But the release is very interesting and there may be other uses for it. The swing having a pendulum downward force does have some advantage but I don't see enough here to get excited about. I also don't see the pendulum swing getting back to the catch either due to if it is turning you loose the return swing. Like Hans noted.

Sorry but I don't see a runner here.
 

 

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