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Author Topic: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!  (Read 173258 times)

Offline NRGFromTheVacuum

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2009, 12:18:44 AM »
Here are two pictures I captured from the video.

The first picture is the peak current draw from the blue cap before the voltage in the 30uF cap rises to 154.5 V (Minute 1:52)

The second picture is the peak current draw from the blue cap before the voltage in the 30uF cap rises to 145.7 V (Minute 1:21)

You can see that the more current I draw from the source the less energy I gain in the collector. (This is a key point in Free Energy Generation)




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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
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Offline CTG Labs

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2009, 12:21:20 AM »
Hi NRG,

Does the effect disppear if you use something other than the piece of iron on which to spark the connection?


Thanks,

Dave.

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2009, 02:20:59 AM »
Hi NRG,

Does the effect disppear if you use something other than the piece of iron on which to spark the connection?


Thanks,

Dave.

Dave great question,

By "spark the connection" are you referring to the Zinc strip contacted by the two alligator leads?  Seen to the left here (Minute 0:34) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhS4TxP29mM

I have used Brass, Nickle, Carbon, Zinc, Copper, and Magnesium strips in the past to connect A, B, & C wire http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6734.0. None of which have an extreme negative/positive effect.

Besides the strips, I have only used the side of the 30uF capacitor case to connect AB&C wire.

I will try to include the results of using each material in future video's, which should be rather interesting.

You can find the strips here http://www.unitednuclear.com/chem.htm





 

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
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COP= 5 !
« Reply #78 on: February 24, 2009, 07:56:05 PM »
There is one event in the video at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RGgrkMocCo

watch minute 1:07 and 1:09.

where the COP is at least 5 in my calculation.

Have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3fxOqjSsyc

He calculates COP= 16,
depends on what exact voltages you read there.
Also the chargeup backside cap is only 30 uF and not 32 uF.

But this is extremly interesting and definately overunity.

My calculation got me COP= 5  with using the 
start voltage= 25.88 Volts and end voltage 25.87 Volts on
the 7500 uF supply cap C1 and the 30 uF charge cap C2 charged up to 25.62 Volts.

So lets calculate:

Before test:
EnergyC1= 0.5 x (25.88)^2 x 0.0075 Farad= 2.511654 Joules

After test:
EnergyC1= 0.5 x (25.87)^2 x 0.0075 Farad= 2.509713375 Joules

Energy lost in cap C1= 0.001940625 Joules

Energy in Cap C2= 0.5 x (25.62)^2 x 0.000030 Farad= 0.009845766 Joules

So COP = 0.009845766 Joules  / 0.001940625 Joules = 5.07

Regards, Stefan.



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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #79 on: February 24, 2009, 08:37:26 PM »
Hi Stefan,

That's definitely worth investigating!!  Another example is 1 minute and 50 seconds into the first video at -->

1:50 to 1:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RGgrkMocCo

Blue cap: (0.5*22.07^2*7500e-6 - 0.5*20.23^2*7500e-6) = 0.29187 J
Gray cap: 0.5*155^2*30e-6 = 0.360375 J
Efficiency: 0.360375 J / 0.29187 J = 123%

That's over 100% efficiency!

PL

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Offline CTG Labs

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #80 on: February 24, 2009, 08:40:28 PM »
Hi all,

Figures look good!  But they are quite close together and we have not accounted for the energy he uses from his hand to do the manual switching, hopefully this can be done with mosfets and a digital switching circuit, but that will need current to run.  But I suspect a spark is required and so a more elaborate and power hungry switching circuit will be required...


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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #81 on: February 24, 2009, 08:42:33 PM »
IMO the 123% example clearer because the blue cap voltage changes by a lot more, from 1.84 volts, rather than just 0.01 volts. 0.01V might be too difficult because of cap absorption. Although the example where the blue cap changes by 1.84V for 123% eff. is a lot clearer.

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #82 on: February 24, 2009, 08:47:52 PM »
Quote
Figures look good!  But they are quite close together and we have not accounted for the energy he uses from his hand to do the manual switching, hopefully this can be done with mosfets and a digital switching circuit, but that will need current to run.
Using a MOSFET is a good idea! Although I'd imagine such hand energy is on the order of micro joules at most. The spark lasts about 0.5ms, the electric force between the plate and lead in terms of Newtons is extreme low, amounting to almost nothing. From what I see, the only down fall could be dielectric absorption. We can't tell dielectric absorption in the videos because his DMM has too low of input resistance. You can see the cap voltage drops over time, mostly because of the DMM. If the DMM was removed, then there's a real chance that the blue caps DC voltage could rise a lot in about one hours time. That's the only way to tell what the caps *real* voltage is; i.e., let the cap sit disconnected and undisturbed for awhile.

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #83 on: February 24, 2009, 09:00:54 PM »
The whole 'experment' is bunk.

Consider the time constant while discharging a capacitor:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/electric/capdis.html
(Capacitor Discharge Calculation)

Consider a resistance of 4 ohms:

The time constant is .03 seconds.  This means in .03 seconds the capacitor will lose about 2/3 of its charge.
26V x 66% = 17 volts consumed
And that's with a pulse of .03 seconds

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #84 on: February 24, 2009, 09:03:53 PM »
The whole 'experment' is bunk.

Consider the time constant while discharging a capacitor:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/electric/capdis.html
(Capacitor Discharge Calculation)

Consider a resistance of 4 ohms:

The time constant is .03 seconds.  This means in .03 seconds the capacitor will lose about 2/3 of its charge.
26V x 66% = 17 volts consumed
And that's with a pulse of .03 seconds

You forgot to consider "Inductance."  He's momentarily touching the plate, which connects the battery to a ferrite core coil.

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #85 on: February 24, 2009, 09:08:09 PM »
"THE BATTERY"

So connecting the battery in the circuit means additional energy input, further invalidating the claim of "capacitor input only"

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #86 on: February 24, 2009, 09:10:29 PM »
"THE BATTERY"

So connecting the battery in the circuit means additional energy input, further invalidating the claim of "capacitor input only"

NO, he disconnects the battery prior to performing the test.

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #87 on: February 24, 2009, 09:17:11 PM »
The portion of the test referenced by Stefan is IMPOSSIBLE considering the test conditions 'presented' by NRG.

So he pulsed the capacitor and shows a drop of .01 volts???
Must have been a pulse of .000001 seconds??

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #88 on: February 24, 2009, 09:21:28 PM »
I've seen many experiments whereby hitting a metal plate with a metal lead has a contact time on the order of microseconds. It's not the physical contact time that's typically long. Rather, the air between the spark can remain ionized for around 0.5ms, but that depends on the current.

PL

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
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