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Magnethos

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #195 on: March 05, 2009, 09:58:11 PM »
No, I'm a realist. I gave NRG's claim the benefit of doubt, but still to this day he's ignored my request to show the capacitance readings on his capacitors immediately before and after doing his experiments. That's being very dodgy, to make a big experimental claim and not put forth effort to address simple issues.

And anytime NRG wants to talk real conventional physics with me, just let me know.

PL
I know the work of NRG has been replicated by others, and they have got the same results as NRG.
All that people used damaged caps as you said? Or maybe you have no idea to explain that phenomenon and you only can say that... that is an error?

At least, NRG has built some devices and has shown and proved his claims. But you are the entire day showing only pure theories. You haven't built anything yet. NRG has a lot of advantage more than you.

And of course, the only one that has proved to known REAL physics is NRG. You are only talking about school physics. NRG takes the physics to the next level: the advanced (real) level.
But of course.,.. you haven't shown enough capacity to argue in the level of NRG.
That is really proven.

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #196 on: March 05, 2009, 09:59:27 PM »
I'm the dreamer even though I work in a field that imploys these technologys
What technologies, and doing what? Please be specific.


I actualy have devices instead of just a theory. Your the ones who's dreaming guy.....
I've seen them. So far you refuse to take simple measurements that are clear issues.  As far as my theory, sorry, but it's not my theory. It's called conventional physics. Try taking a look at the math equations found in the open-source FEMM software.


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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #197 on: March 05, 2009, 10:02:30 PM »
At least, NRG has built some devices and has shown and proved his claims. But you are the entire day showing only pure theories. You haven't built anything yet.
Stop spreading lies will you. You obviously haven't looked at my website.



NRG has a lot of advantage more than you.

And of course, the only one that has proved to known REAL physics is NRG. You are only talking about school physics. NRG takes the physics to the next level: the advanced (real) level.
But of course.,.. you haven't shown enough capacity to argue in the level of NRG.
That is really proven.
You people are so obvious. So who pays your bills to f--- up humanity spreading rediculous garbage that wastes time from legit researchers? And I only make that comment because of how dodgy NRG is and the completely unproven so-called science he's spreading.


I know the work of NRG has been replicated by others, and they have got the same results as NRG.
Who?  I see one replication in this thread, and the guy clearly said he did *not* get over-unity. So can we chalk up another victory for the user, NRG? A another success in wasting someones time in replicating his experiment.



PL

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #198 on: March 05, 2009, 10:16:49 PM »
One thing is proven,
The only intention you have is to spoil this thread, saying that all us are wrong because we haven't mathematically proven our theories and you're the only one here in this forum that has the valid answer to the "free energy" problem, because you have calculated and tested in a software your theory and you are right and we are wrong. This is message you are transmitting and repeating all the time.
Send a message to Stefan and say him that he needs to close this forum because you're the only one here that has the answer.

So please, if you want to collaborate in this project of this thread, posting some usefull information that can help us to develop some usefull result, do it.

But If you are here in this thread only to discredit all these posts and your intention is that all people visit your website... please... start opening threads to discuss about your theory, your website and all that you want to discuss. But stop discrediting us.

If we're right we will know it. If we're wrong, we will know it too. But permit us to discuss all the theories we want because I haven't (and I won't) visit your website to post that you're right or you're wrong.

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #199 on: March 05, 2009, 10:22:46 PM »
Oh no you're not going to get away with that, Magnethos. You claimed a lot of people have successfully replicated NRG's experiments to prove NRG's claims. If it's the claim of his bifilar coil producing extra energy, then lets see these replications. I'll ask you *again*, where are these replications?  So far I see one replication in this thread, and the guy said and showed in the video that it was less than 100% efficiency.

And please stop twisting my words. Half of what you claim of me is untrue. I asked NRG a lot of times to show cap measurements immediately before and after doing his experiments. He just ignores the request. Maybe he did them already to discover the error. Or maybe he has other intents. IMO, it's only a matter of time before ***legit*** researchers begin to wise up to you people.

PL

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #200 on: March 05, 2009, 11:08:39 PM »

It seems to me that there is merit in what you say Magnethos.

I would also add that the properties of 'joule thief' could be beneficial to in this concept.

Regards...


Magnethos

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #201 on: March 05, 2009, 11:57:37 PM »
I think Joule Thief will be good also... but I know there are people that understand much more than me about JT and they know better to adapt the JT to this system. If all we collaborate together, we can develop this system.

Some information related:
Article:
Radiant Energy:
Unraveling Tesla’s Greatest Secret


Some information extracted from the article:
Of all the great inventions and discoveries of Nikola Tesla, nothing stood out with greater potential benefit to the whole of humanity than his discovery of Radiant Energy in 1889. The series of observations that led to the discovery of Radiant energy initially grew out of experiments that Tesla had conducted in an attempt to duplicate the results that Heinrich Hertz.
While replicating Hertz’s experiments, Tesla experimented with violently abrupt DC electrical discharges [we're talking here about using Pulsed DC at very high frequency to draw voltage before current starts to flow] and discovered a new force in the process. Only after conducting exhaustive experimental trials for the next three years, did Tesla announce this stupendous discovery in a paper published in December, 1892, entitled “The Dissipation of Electricity”.

It operated in an entirely new domain of physics based on abrupt discharges of electrostatic potentials and the subsequent release of kinetic Radiant Energy from the omnipresent ether.
Using mathematical models, James Clerk Maxwell had earlier suggested that two different types of electrical disturbances could possibly exist in Nature. One type was a longitudinal electric wave, second wave postulation was that of a transverse electromagnetic wave.

Thomas Edison’s use of DC generators, the DC electrical system was the only system available to deliver electricity to America’s homes and factories.A curious anomaly occurred in the very first instant of throwing the power switch at the generating station: Purple/blue colored spikes radiated in all directions along the axis of the power lines for just a moment. Tesla realized almost immediately that electrons were not responsible for such a phenomena [neutrinos?] because The blue spike phenomena ceased as soon as the current stated flowing in the lines.

Tesla viewed it as a powerful, yet unknown form of energy which needed to be understood and harnessed if possible. The phenomena only exhibited itself in the first moment of switch closure, before the electrons could begin moving. <----- Electrical Relaxation Time
Once the electrons began their movement within the wire, all would return to normal. What was this strange energy that was trying to liberate itself so forcefully at the moment of switch closure?

Radiant energy was bound up within the elusive ether, but could be made manifest by the creation of an abrupt disruption in the equilibrium of the ether fractions using one way, high magnitude pulses of short duration. (I said about using high frequency Pulses of Direct Current, while inhibiting current using the NRG's bifilar coil)
This was the key that unlocked Radiant Energy.

Unlimited electricity could be made available anywhere and at any time, by merely pushing a rod into the ground and turning on the electrical appliance.This new form of energy even had the ability to elevate human consciousness to levels of vastly improved comprehension and mental clarity.
it has been achieved fully 100 years ago had Tesla been allowed to complete his commercial development of Radiant Energy.


The complete article:
http://educate-yourself.org/fe/radiantenergystory.shtml

Article with information about Tesla and Bifilar Coil: http://www.geeman-headquarters.com/TeslaRadiantEnergySystem.pdf

Tesla, Radiant energy, Unidirectional impulses, white sparks, transformers...
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_24.htm
« Last Edit: March 06, 2009, 12:55:41 AM by Magnethos »

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #202 on: March 06, 2009, 03:53:49 AM »
No, I'm a realist. I gave NRG's claim the benefit of doubt, but still to this day he's ignored my request to show the capacitance readings on his capacitors immediately before and after doing his experiments. That's being very dodgy, to make a big experimental claim and not put forth effort to address simple issues.

And anytime NRG wants to talk real conventional physics with me, just let me know.

PL

Hi Paul,
please stop arguing and just wait,
until user NRGfromtheVaccuum will do these tests.

Or just do these tests yourself and post your results.

Many thanks for understanding.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #203 on: March 06, 2009, 04:45:13 PM »
It's been what, over a week, I've asked him at least 3 times, with no response on his part. He could use a capacitance meter, or the simple RC time constant method I described that included all of the required info to do this including the link to a RC time constant calculator.

Also, as stated, there's very little point in anyone replicating this until NRG can at least show some sincerity because this experiment has been performed countless times in college labs, at home, etc., Stefan. As stated, either NRG got ***extremely**** lucky in the way he wound the coil, or it's a ... you know what. Besides, someone in this thread already replicated NRG's experiment. This person clearly says and shows in his video that it's well under 100% efficiency. Hmmm, now that I think of it, everyone in this thread ignored that persons video. Why? He did great work!  Here's the link -->

http://www.energetictube.com/play/Vacuum_Radiant_Energy/NRG%20From%20The%20Vacuum%20replication%20test

The question is, why is NRG arguing, and taunting people with a working model of everyone's dream here, and not doing the minimum experiments. This is the same behavior that happens at these forums time after time after time. IMO legit people are beginning to get it. If someone is dodgy, gets upset or ignores you when they're asked to do a simple test that could easily reveal the truth, etc. etc. then move on and not let these people destroy this alternative energy community. They've wasted enough energy. Again, it's pointless for anyone to replicate it until they can at least do the minimum experiments.

Legit people may want to wonder why these same people that make these videos, a new username, always have theories that are so out of this world, while they ignore or throw rocks at methods of capturing common ambient thermal energy. Isn't that odd?  I've shown two completely different methods of using the best available mathematics from conventional physics that ambient thermal energy is available energy in massive endless quantities: 1. Diodes. 2. Magnetic. I mean, you would think that at least a few people out of countless researchers here would see, "Gee, atoms at room temperature are continuously moving around at thousands of mph. Gee, the Sun continually sustains such energy. Gee, there are countless macro scale effects that show such energy is easily affected and transferable on a macro scale, such as thermal conductivity and gas compression and expansion. Any one who's taken Physics 101 will know that when you expand gas that you are actually *removing* energy from the vibrating gas particles!  Obviously when you complete the cycle by compressing the gas back to normal you give the energy back to the gas. The tricks is make the cycle unbalanced. Perhaps viscosity?  You see, IMO those are the type of thoughts intelligent researchers in this field should be pondering upon. But hey, by all means,  people continue on because you no longer need to ponder upon such thoughts because I've provided the major breakthroughs, the methods, and the mathematics using well-established conventional software, FEMM. I'm mean, heck, you would people want to spend a few days verifying my claim and start working on research that is backed by the mathematics of conventional physics that is an almost 100% guarantee to be the biggest breakthrough in all history!

PL

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #204 on: March 07, 2009, 04:44:14 AM »
Also, as stated, there's very little point in anyone replicating this until NRG can at least show some sincerity because this experiment has been performed countless times in college labs, at home, etc., Stefan. As stated, either NRG got ***extremely**** lucky in the way he wound the coil, or it's a ... you know what. Besides, someone in this thread already replicated NRG's experiment. This person clearly says and shows in his video that it's well under 100% efficiency. Hmmm, now that I think of it, everyone in this thread ignored that persons video. Why? He did great work!  Here's the link -->

http://www.energetictube.com/play/Vacuum_Radiant_Energy/NRG%20From%20The%20Vacuum%20replication%20test



Paul,

The replication in that video is incorrect, and you will undoubtedly refuse my reasons for why..

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« Reply #205 on: March 07, 2009, 04:46:06 AM »
Hello,

I would like to make a few comments on both the subject of my "Free Electrical Energy" experiment and the reasons for my "dodgyness" to certain measurement requests.

The reason I came to this forum was to discuss, develop, and comment in a constructive way about my experiment and the science behind it. So others may learn the complex reality that drives the multi-dimensional world you live in. I understand their has been countless calculations done by others that show my experiment presents a unique situation with a COP >1. First off, I never stated at anytime that my experiment produced a COP >1. I stated that the energy captured in the secondary capacitor (30uF) was a different form of energy thus allowing it to be continually amplified to produce more work then the energy used to capture it. My measurements show all of the input energy that was transferred from the primary capacitor (7500uF) to the coil is lost. This means all the energy found in the secondary capacitor (30uF) comes from another source all together. If you carefully examine the circuit you can see while in operation, that all energy from the source is blocked from entering the secondary capacitor (30uF). So NO "overunity" is present in this particular experiment..

I understand that some of you may be having trouble grasping the fundamental processes of reality taking place in this experiment. This is expected any time you present a very complex and very different design opposed to what you've all been taught. The truth is in the circuits, building and designing them to gather energy rather then consume it.

I can only briefly look at this thread on the weekdays because of the prodigious amount work presented to me lately. I have just recently traveled for a contract from which I just returned, only to see fruitless arguments and bickering here. How is any progress going to be made if arguments are the only subject matter being debated. @ PL: I apologize for my so called  "dodging" of direct measurement requests but as I stated before. I have a prodigious amount work presented to me, and your not the only one to request a specific measurement.

So let me just explain where I come from and why I have come to the conclusions I presented. I graduated from a technical trade school with a "Certificate of Proficiency" in electronics and a textbook understanding of electricity. I then moved on to college out of state where I acquired a bachelors in electrical engineering. My final project's subject was on Nikola Tesla. Which guided me toward some basic knowledge of electrical phenomenology. As intrigued as I was with electrical phenomena I decided the best path for me would be to study physics. So I attended a college in my home state for material science, physics and particle physics. After gathering knowledge of electrical engineering, advanced physics, and some basic electrical phenomena I knew their was a big piece of the picture missing. So I worked hard to acquire a job with the privilege to work on "out-of-the-box" technology's which the average citizen is not privy too. I have now since worked on those technology's. Let me just give you a short list of the companies, corporations, institutions, military centers, and laboratory's, to which I have been contracted to work with.

General Electric Company, General Dynamics, General Atomics, General MEMS Corp, The Boeing Company, Boeing Satellite Systems Inc, Lockheed Martin Corp, Orbital Science Corp , Pratt & Whitney, Apache Aerospace, The Aerospace Corp, Ball Aerospace & Technology Corp, Bell Aerospace Textron, Boeing Aerospace Division, Ensign Bickford Aerospace, GE Aerospace Division, Grumman Aerospace, I.S. Aerospace, ITT Aerospace/Communications Division, Kanan Aerospace Bloomfield, Kidde Aerospace, Michigan Aerospace Corp, Rosemount Aerospace Inc, Smith Aerospace LLC, JDS Uniphase Corp, Quantum Electro-Optical Systems Inc, Raytheon Optical Corp, Quantum Applied Science & Research Inc, Northrup Grumman Space Technology, Kamaan Aerospace,
Florida Space Institute, NASA Glenn Research Center, NASA Langley Research Center, NASA Ames Research Center, NASA Kennedy Space Center, NASA Johnson Space Center, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA Marshall Space Flight Center, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Naval Under Sea Warfare Center, Naval Air Warfare Center, Naval Oceans System Center, NRAD (Naval Research & Development), NCCOSC (Naval Command Control and Surveillance Center), Wright Patterson Airforce Base, Naval Research Laboratory, NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Air Force Research Laboratory,  US Army Laboratory Command, US Army Research Laboratory, US Army Aviation & Missile, US Naval Observatory, Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, AVCO Research Laboratory, Sandia National Labs, Los Alamos National Labs, Wyle Laboratories, Perdue University Birck Nanotechnology Center, University of Illinois Micro & Nanotechnology Laboratory, John Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory and many more..

These companies, corporations, institutions, military centers, and laboratory's, hire people to utilize, apply and understand the process of reality to which I have been suggesting. (Even if you don't believe it) To say that any or all of them are incorrect in their assumptions would be indubitably wrong and naive none the less. (Or ur an agent of disinformation) I don't merely make up what I say or quote it from the works of great scientists like Tesla, and Bearden. I have directly been involved in working with this technology and know for a FACT what is going on in my circuits. I do not use computer simulated math equations or conventional magnetic theory to build, compose, and engineer any of my circuits.That will never lead you toward "overunity", it only guarantees failure. I use real wisdom of the quantum vacuum from actual laboratory experiments and tests preformed in REALITY. From this experience I measure and calculate the effects I want to engineer when permitted to do so.

I had an agreement with Stefan to discuss my experiment "Free Electrical Energy". Under the conditions that I'm not forced to violate any nondisclosure agreements that I may have signed with any companies, corporations, institutions, military centers, or laboratory s.

** I say this with a straight face ** By posting the names of these companies, corporations, institutions, military centers, and laboratory's to emphasize my point, I am undoubtedly risking my career and possibly more then that.

Best Regards,
     NRG
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« Reply #206 on: March 07, 2009, 05:09:54 AM »
First off, I never stated at anytime that my experiment produced a COP >1.

Ooops!!

Screen-shot from your video saying otherwise!

P.S.  As a spark is very lossy, trying to capture 'free energy' by way of a spark is a hopeless waste of time IMO.

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« Reply #207 on: March 07, 2009, 05:23:03 AM »
Ooops!!

Screen-shot from your video saying otherwise!

P.S.  As a spark is very lossy, trying to capture 'free energy' by way of a spark is a hopeless waste of time IMO.

Read what you circled "achieved COP CAN reach >1"

It does not say "achieved COP does reach >1"

Even if it did say "achieved COP does reach >1" its a stipulation based on the first part of the statement.

Lets decipher..

"With the proper make and break timing, <--------------------------- Which a human cannot produce!

or 98% Al, 2% Fe Wire, <------------------- Which I'm not using!

the achieved COP can reach >1"




« Last Edit: March 07, 2009, 06:25:23 AM by NRGFromTheVacuum »

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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #208 on: March 07, 2009, 06:17:43 AM »
Nrg,

I liked your videos...this is way too simple to be true    (joke)

Please can you give us all a specific shopping list as I think that many of us would like to actually do your experiment before commenting.

like the core material...where to obtain the special wire, caps  etc

thanks in advance



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Re: Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!
« Reply #209 on: March 07, 2009, 09:24:39 AM »
NRG,

About two weeks ago I sent you a private PM at youtube offering a suggestion to replicate your own device to see if there's anything special about the way it's wound, and perhaps even filming segments of you winding the core. Perhaps you did not see this PM because there was no reply.

PL