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Title: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: The_Jerk on February 02, 2009, 06:51:43 AM
If anyone can spot me 120 bucks for magnets, one aluminum bolt w/ hardware, 6 3' square sheets of plywood and a 2X4, I can make a device that powers itself.  If I wasn't buying a house right now and wasn't always distracted by life it would have been done already.  Super cheap, super easy.  For construction you will need a drill, router or jigsaw, some wood screws, tape measure etc.
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: Light on February 02, 2009, 07:02:01 AM
I have “magnets, one aluminum bolt w/ hardware, 6 3' square sheets of plywood and a 2X4”, show me how to build it and $120 is yours, no sweat.
Deal??...:)
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: hoptoad on February 02, 2009, 07:04:56 AM
If anyone can spot me 120 bucks for magnets, one aluminum bolt w/ hardware, 6 3' square sheets of plywood and a 2X4, I can make a device that powers itself.  If I wasn't buying a house right now and wasn't always distracted by life it would have been done already.  Super cheap, super easy.  For construction you will need a drill, router or jigsaw, some wood screws, tape measure etc.

ROFLMAO       .......   a little more information might aid your soliciting.  ::)

Can anybody also spot me for $120 bucks while your at it. I've got a pig that can fly, but it needs replacement wings. :P

Cheers and KneeDeep
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: The_Jerk on February 02, 2009, 09:05:06 PM
No soliciting here at all.  I absolutely hate people like that.  I will build it one way or the other with help or without.  I need materials and a unified effort for this from everyone to be protected from OPEC!
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: broli on February 02, 2009, 09:23:44 PM
Then why don't you share the complete design and explanation with some copyright stamp and worry about the rest later. There are many who can put it together quickly.
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: ramset on February 02, 2009, 10:16:19 PM
T-J

You need a bigger piece of bait!!

       Chet
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: hansvonlieven on February 02, 2009, 10:26:26 PM
If anyone can spot me 120 bucks for magnets, one aluminum bolt w/ hardware, 6 3' square sheets of plywood and a 2X4, I can make a device that powers itself.  If I wasn't buying a house right now and wasn't always distracted by life it would have been done already.  Super cheap, super easy.  For construction you will need a drill, router or jigsaw, some wood screws, tape measure etc.

You are either pulling our leg or you are not very bright. Calling yourself "The Jerk" and then asking for money really inspires a lot of confidence.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: TinselKoala on February 02, 2009, 11:21:06 PM
I'll gladly send you an international money order for 120 US dollars.

Just one condition, though.

When you build your device and it doesn't work as you intend, that is, doesn't power itself and keep running, you will stand up on video, published to YouTube and the world, and say, "It doesn't work, TinselKoala was right." And then you will return the 120 dollars by donating it to your local no-kill animal shelter or spay-neuter program, and publish a photo of the receipt.

Agree to this condition, here in front of this forum and all its members, and PM me your address and I will send you the money order immediately.

If your device doesn't work, and you do not comply with the condition, the webworms will come for you and you will never get untangled.

If, on the other hand, your device does work and turns out to be the first perpetual motion machine ever constructed (as well as the cheapest), then I will publicly apologize to you in some appropriate manner and slink off into my cave. But of course your device will have to be "independently verified" by someone with two eyes and a working brain.

Oh, wait a minute. I see that you are a "newbie" and have no rep on this forum. Perhaps I need to see some "bona fides" before I throw my hard-earned cash into hyperspace. How about a little more about you, and some pictures of your garage or basement workshop, and some prior work in the area, or something like that...
After all, it's a lot of money. To some of us, anyway.
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: newsflash on February 03, 2009, 04:54:40 AM
I have a Nigerian who is asking for the same.. I'm not sure who to give my 120 dollars to..
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: The_Jerk on February 03, 2009, 06:28:50 AM
Ergh, forget the money, I'll just wait.  But about me, I've been in the Army for the past 8 years and went to Iraq in '03 with the 101st.  Now I can tell you first hand the extent of our nations dependency on foreign oil and our governments efforts to convince us to those ends.  I'm pretty sure there is enough oil in Alaska that my employer won't let private industry tap into because they wouldn't have as much control of us.  Now this bullshit we're into now is all about control.  There are allot of out there that live in a world of false bliss and believe what they tell you.  Many of the things they have done I can condone because they know that the american people are weak, and we are.  If anyone cared about what our country did to it's people or people in other countries, there would be a swift revolution.  I conceived the initial part of my project while I was in Iraq.  I was on guard one night at a grainary about 15 miles south of the Kurd town of Dohuk and it just came to me.  It was only a shape, a spiraled staircase like object.  I started drawing it out on the back of a bill I had got in the mail a week before.  I kinda knew what it was but not how it would work.  I spent many months while I was still in Iraq trying to figure it out.  In the end, it became refined but too expensive.  It required a lot of custom made aluminum parts.  The spiral was simply 15 lengths of aluminum, bound to a center shaft, with each length being offset 15 degrees.  The ends of each length held a magnet.  The top and bottom limbs of the spiral have magnets near the inside of them.  These correspond to large ring magnets that enclose the spiral from both ends.  The magnets at the ends of the limbs correspond to columns of magnets, 9 total, that enclose the spiral from the outside.  The columns contain 15 magnets each for the 15 limbs in the spiral.  The columns are slaved to shafts which are attached to cogs on the top and bottom.  These cogs surrounding the spiral are set into 2 gears, one moveable and one stationary.  The gear on the inside is stationary and is locked into the frame.  The gear on the outside makes it all happen.  The outside gear is set into the frame but not locked and also has recessed teeth on the outside aligned with a cog perpedicularly.  This cog has a simple lever attached to it which will turn it.  This cog turns the outside gear, which turns all the cogs the same number of degrees simultaneously as they ride on the stationary inside gear, this in turn angles the columns of magnets. All the magnets on the spiral limbs and the columns are placed NN or SS forcing repulsion.  The 9 columns ensure that the pushing force overcomes any pulling force as the spiral magnets pass the lines of flux in succession.  This was the big time app though.  Very expensive to make, but the one you can just drop into your car, plane or boat and plug the shaft into your transmission.  This is the thing that would last the life of the magnets alone as the design incorporates a frictionless system based on magnetic repulsion.  Now if the magnetic energy lasts only 500 years and scientists don't think that's long enough to be perpetual while they still pay for gas then we are doomed.  Yeah it's not really perpetual but it's perpetual enough for 500 years.  The only way to make it a real overunity device it to turn the mechanical energy into electrical and then back into mechanical.  It would have to become an auto stator, but I don't know how to turn a permanent magnet into an electrical one and still retain it's original power or if that's even possible.  Now I figured all this out on my own.  I didn't even graduate high school, but I heard they gave Hutchison a doctorate for his work.  I know what he's doing, this will make ZPR.  Counter rotating electromagnetic fields create vacuous cores of space or so I read.  The trick is in the frequency and how to regulate something like that effectively and more so, how to shape it to create gravity and anti-gravity.   Name's Jack by the way.
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: Pirate88179 on February 03, 2009, 08:13:18 AM
Jack:

Thank you for your service to our great country!  Just so you know, you did not serve the government, you served the people, like me.  101st, go Screaming Eagles!  I have been to Ft. Campbell many times.  I live in Bowling Green, KY.  Just wanted to say hello and thanks.

Bill
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: TinselKoala on February 03, 2009, 04:10:47 PM
Jack, you explain your plan for your device very well, and I was dreaming right along with you there...until you got to the part about John Hutchison. "They" might have given him a doctorate (although this is the first I've heard of it) but I assure you he didn't and doesn't deserve it. Unless of course it's a doctorate in the Barnum effect.
Since I am the only individual that I know of who has even come close to replicating many Hutchison's effects, including jellification of metals, interpenetration of metals, levitation of massive objects, strange flashes and glows, liquids that repel gravity, and little flying saucer models on strings, I can tell you with some authority: Hutchison is a faker. He's an entertainer, not a scientist, by his own admission.(Search for "hutchison" and "tonya harding" if you need confirmation).
The only real mystery about those mysterious material samples is how John obtained them from a Canadian Navy testing laboratory scrapheap. They were probably blown apart by strong current surges from a military homopolar generator.

Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: The_Jerk on February 03, 2009, 06:49:10 PM
What no replies now?  I guess you all are trying to figure it out.  But free energy for the world is not free, I have bills.  The idea to give you enough information to shut you all up and quit criticizing things you don't understand while at same time figuring out if it really will work.  I have designs for almost anything you can imagine, and I can imagine allot of stuff.  But the point of this matter is that I'm not going to tell anyone more about because I cannot trust anyone.  I may just end up selling it for a billion dollars to an oil company and it would fall off the face the earth never to seen again.  I just found this website a week ago while I was checking the progress of everyone's efforts to make free energy and they have all either met with mysterious accidents or simply disappeared.  So get your story straight and wake up.  This isn't a game, this is the most dangerous thing any person could ever do in their life.
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: TinselKoala on February 03, 2009, 07:43:40 PM
What no replies now?  I guess you all are trying to figure it out.  But free energy for the world is not free, I have bills.  The idea to give you enough information to shut you all up and quit criticizing things you don't understand while at same time figuring out if it really will work.  I have designs for almost anything you can imagine, and I can imagine allot of stuff.  But the point of this matter is that I'm not going to tell anyone more about because I cannot trust anyone.  I may just end up selling it for a billion dollars to an oil company and it would fall off the face the earth never to seen again.  I just found this website a week ago while I was checking the progress of everyone's efforts to make free energy and they have all either met with mysterious accidents or simply disappeared.  So get your story straight and wake up.  This isn't a game, this is the most dangerous thing any person could ever do in their life.

That's a pretty funny thing for someone to say, who just came back from Iraq.

Believe me, my story is straight. Your device as you have described it has ZERO chance of working, and I would send you the money just for the satisfaction of seeing you build it and then admit that it won't work. But YOU want to turn this into a game. "The Jerk", Hutchison, big oil conspiracies, mysterious accidents--yeah, right. I've been monitoring this forum and others of its ilk for years, and NONE of what you say has happened. The fraudsters always reappear in one way or another, the people who claim to have something really don't and that's why they fade away (not "disappear") and tales of the Men In Black are greatly exaggerated. Nobody's developed any free energy device, the same designs (like yours) keep coming up in one form or another by someone who is "SURE" that it will work, nobody's been swept away by the MIB or the oil companies, and people who really DO have something that might develop into something real are still struggling and puttering along, without any interference, unless you count the trolls and the Evil Skeptics like me.

But you don't have to take my word for it. Your device is simple enough. You are absolutely sure that it will work, right? So just obtain the funds however you can--take out a loan, hock the kid's ice skates, put off buying those season tickets to the Spurs--just BUILD the damn thing and PROVE ME WRONG.
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: FreeEnergy on February 03, 2009, 07:47:19 PM
But the point of this matter is that I'm not going to tell anyone more about because I cannot trust anyone.  I may just end up selling it for a billion dollars to an oil company and it would fall off the face the earth never to seen again.

please go away and never come back to this forum again unless you are to open source your idea. really we dont need this kind of BS. if you are not going to open source then please dont even mention your idea here! thanks! STAY AWAY else we dont give a flying fuck! cant you see this is an OPEN SOURCE forum? do you even know what open source is?! what you really think we are going to give you money for non-open source project?! well maybe the dumb fucks will but i wont and many of us here wont unless its open source! get with the program man! lol you're a joke! have fun dude.

lol

bye
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: Light on February 04, 2009, 07:28:10 AM
Agree with Tinsel, so many clamed OU devices but none seen in real life. Not because they’re just having a wrong concept, but because it’s really hard to develop final working product on “self financing” base. Look, Bedini, Brady, Willis, they all hard workers willing to get they product to be introduced to world, but costs of these efforts to high to do it fast and on the propriet level.
That’s why even if  you, Jack, guessing how it might work (because you saw it) $120 it’s nothing even to prove a concept. Here’s many people who spent much more and with not bad ideas at all, but not coming even close yet.
So I wish you luck in you attempts, hope you’ll find this bloody 120…
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: The_Jerk on February 05, 2009, 03:43:48 AM
Thanks guys for all your criticism, whether negative or positive.  It really helps to have unbiased opinions on something like this.  It's taken me years to narrow this down into something cheap.  And I didn't just get back from Iraq, I was there 03, since then I have been to Afghanistan twice and the last (07-08) one was for 15 months.  While I was there I was actually building it.  I had the magnets and the frame constructed but couldn't find the means available on a small fob to attach the magnets to the wood.   I was also overly concerned with shielding them for some reason.  I was trying to block one side so no pulling forces could escape.  I spent allot of money on that stuff, but in the end I found that even the best I could get wasn't enough.  A magnet totally saturates any ferrous material with electrons besides just sticking to it.  I had to revamp the frame a little bit and close it in on both ends as well because a floating single shaft wasn't stable enough.  I also ran into the balancing issue since I had no access to aluminum bolts and hardware.  It was hard to concentrate on it too, especially since our province was thick with freedom fighters. We lost 12 guys there for absolutely nothing and our unit alone spent over 2 million dollars on local contracts to build roads and schools that were never finished.   And nobody can tell me shit about Iraq either, I saw 55 gal. drums of Sarin in a bunker just outside of baghdad airport and they had lot numbers right next to the nsn numbers.  Alot of people I knew pretty well there had seen similar things in other places.  We killed alot of innocent people over there, and we soldiers have to live with that guilt for the rest of our lives.  The politicians simply wash their hands of it and go on their way. At least we were always backed by americans, even though we only fought for each other.  If there were actually terrorist cells operating in the US and targeting regular people it would be different.  But the war is draining our economy and gasoline is way too expensive and very much finite, we already owe China over a trillion dollars.  I developed many other concepts besides revising this one, others include a turbo charged pressure forge, a bad ass metal forging process, a solar laser, the always favorite mech, the always favorite rail gun, a sonic cannon(mostly for mining work) and some other minor concepts.  I spoke with the VP of AP Nano some while on my last deployment trying to get their company to make armor for us(HMMWVs open like cans when they got hit, plus we gave the assholes the explosives for free anyways).  AP Nano could only at the time manufacture nano tubes and spheres.  They are able to electroplate this material(titanium disulfide) to other metals and the coatings would withstand pressures of up to 250 tons per square centimeter.  That's a shit ton, maybe enough to take on an EFP.  AP Nano didn't have any in house ballistic testing so I tried to hook them up with some current armor manufacturers like point blank, etc. Never got any replies from those companies.  The basic point was that they could not make nano fibers, therefore we could not weave them into cloth-like materials and control their elasticity with electromagnetic fields.  So we can't make powered armor for our soldiers yet, at least not the stealthy ninja kind.  That was one tangent I went off on in Afghanistan.  But if anyone would like to talk about these other things just let me know.  Together we make something really kick ass.
Title: Re: I'm tight on cash right now
Post by: Light on February 05, 2009, 05:23:25 AM
It’s all very interesting, Jack, everyone can tell stories (you’ve been in Army, I was in Navy, and Jim was in jail), but what about “I can make a device that powers itself”, so you can or you can not (“…but in the end I found that even the best I could get wasn't enough…”).
I don’t what to be a jerk (I know what does it mean to carry out orders), but we’re talking about your claim, for other staff you can open another topic. If you have something to say about it let discuss it, or you can do it yourself. No offence, soldier.