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Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #645 on: March 13, 2009, 04:38:48 AM »
Bob said if you add electron's the hydrogen grabs one after being split and doesn't reform into h2o, makes a lot of sense it would depend on the application for a heater using the wfc this may be the way to go but the injector is another animal.

Some people are trying to run a heater or a carberated engine and some are working on the injector and maybe this is where some of the confusion is coming from.

As i recall when i mentioned ionization to bob he ran the other way!!!! Not one to want to hang around and discuss that with me.

You darn right the injector is confusing,, its because it cuts out allot of wasting, like i said, if you use 7.5 liters to run an 1 cylinder engine than that engine is ran on 7500/4 1875 liters per min.

There isn't any injector on the market for injecting hydrogen, most gasoline injectors has to be bored out before they will work,,, hell i had to learn how to polish steel just so i could build one. Now i have to Invent a device for linking up with the intake valve train just so the injector can be controlled, You need a bigger hole in your injector because you only have 37 milliseconds to release 2.4 cc's of gas, cant be done with your ordinary gasoline injector.

Perhaps farraday the fag can help out a bit... I am one of the few that's actually trying to do something in this technology and i think that's eating at buzz, farraday. He is a perpetrator...


You know what pisses them off the most, they cant threaten me with my website because i gave it away LOL, your poweless farraday, you cant touch me you little june june.

Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #646 on: March 13, 2009, 05:06:41 AM »
little june june lol.. good shit.
spewing,
 i know what we need to focus on for timing.. the laser distributor is what will achieve perfection in timing..  i know a straight 6 ford distributor makes 2 -360 degree rotations for each fire on cylinder 1. just consider when cylinder 1 is tdc (top dead center) that your rotor is at 12 oclock... so one rotaion brings you back to 12 oclock but that 12 oclock is on the exhaust stroke.. so then you can take your valve cover off and see what time there opening.. shit name them e.s (exhaust stroke)  i.s (ignition stoke)  like am and pm .... stan made that distributor with infared lighter that took mechanical cycles and turned them into electrical signal. and most likely interlinked the 720 degree cycle of the motors timing to the gas managment system.

outlawstc

Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #647 on: March 13, 2009, 05:30:23 AM »
the bigger engines isn't the problem,, its the small ones. On the big engines you can monitor the firing time, like what you use for a timing light. If fire is on plug 1 then that means inject on plug X, so you see how the magnetic field in the coil wire can be used to controll when the injector needs to be on for the next cylinder.



The problem is,,, most like to use a 2 to 1 ratio on the go kart engines to gain timing,, i dont like that. I'm going to try and use the intake valve for letting me know when to inject. So, whatever i have, it will link directly to the valve in some way. I hate that it will not be a mod everyone can do, meaning it will require some sorta work. When i invent something i try to think about the ones that has no electronic experience. Hopefull whatever i do to determine the injection on this engine, Hopefully it can be easily replicated.

Sucks i'll have to make my own injector,, i'm going to try to use one from my astro van one more time,, it has 6 and i broke 3 learning how they work. Each injector is different. The problem you run into when you used auto injectors is the exit ports isn't big enough. However, some injectors have a Metal Cover over the exit Port, and in this metal is a smaller hole. You cant see it, you dont know its there. If you can manage to remove it then its possible you can use an auto injector. The injector is not something i will go out and buy, i am lucky i have junk cars to pull these from to test with... I think we will get this going,, it will take time..

Meanwhile,, let kick farradays ass, Bend over farraday, you june june...

BTW, for those of you thats behind,, i stated on ioniz that i junked the injector i posted, its a wast because the problem was timing, and the injector i shown was not the solution to that problem. 

Dave45

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #648 on: March 13, 2009, 05:50:19 AM »
So if I got this right Spewing your trying to run hho to the injector instead of water, a thought I had if you separate the oxygen and hydrogen at the wfc run the oxygen through the gas processor instead of ambient air and then recombine them wouldn't this limit the electrons in the cylinder for your application.
 Also this might help with the heater application or the carburetor.

Dave45

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #649 on: March 13, 2009, 06:01:06 AM »
An idea I had to separate H & O, the art sucks using paint

Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #650 on: March 13, 2009, 06:01:38 AM »
So if I got this right Spewing your trying to run hho to the injector instead of water, a thought I had if you separate the oxygen and hydrogen at the wfc run the oxygen through the gas processor instead of ambient air and then recombine them wouldn't this limit the electrons in the cylinder for your application.
 Also this might help with the heater application or the carburetor.

Dave, I am not trying to do anything that has not already been done. Hear me again.

These guys that is running their generators on 7 liters a min. "Those guy's are already doing it."

FOR EXAMPLE. ScareCrow on youtube uses 7 liters to run his engine. This means that ScareCrow uses 29.4 cc's of gas every second to his engine. Scarecrow also is wasting 87.2 cc's per second all because he does not have an injector.


I AM NOT DOING ANYTHING SCARECROW DID NOT DO, The only difference is i will not be wasting gas like he is doing. By the way, scarecrow is a cool dude.



Now, On the injector controll issue. I found a way to controll the injector on almost any go kart engine, meaning anyone here can make this part in 5 min's max! It is so easy to make a cave man can do it LOL.

You must be clever.... Now all thats needed is the injector, and the timing between the injector and valve switch.

Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #651 on: March 13, 2009, 06:25:46 AM »
Here we are;

Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #652 on: March 13, 2009, 06:42:06 AM »
Inspection Plate;

Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #653 on: March 13, 2009, 06:43:52 AM »
spewing,
this book should be very resourceful for making your linear position sensor.. check it out

http://books.google.com/books?id=0SwbWS64c7UC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0

outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #654 on: March 13, 2009, 06:53:16 AM »
@Dave45,
   I think that is an outstanding idea for seperating Hydrogen and oxygen, have you tried it?

Dave45

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #655 on: March 13, 2009, 01:36:59 PM »
@Dave45,
   I think that is an outstanding idea for seperating Hydrogen and oxygen, have you tried it?

No I havent but the more I think about it you still have a + and - in each cell the ss cross over will act as a conductor for either the + or - . Maybe the cross over's could have a hv coil wrapped around them  ::) .
I think this is a more practical design

Not my design.

ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #656 on: March 13, 2009, 08:31:14 PM »

ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #657 on: March 14, 2009, 02:24:20 AM »
 Bob Boyce recent [few weeks] interview 

He shares frequency info, circuit info ,WATCH THIS VIDEO
 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1779100537035350538

Chet
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Ps did I say WATCH THIS VERY RECENT VIDEO

Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #658 on: March 15, 2009, 07:35:04 PM »
is everyone studying? its as quiet as a library in this bizich.

ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #659 on: March 16, 2009, 12:41:49 AM »
Member H20Power has started a thread here

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7030.0;topicseen

Please be nice

Chet