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Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #465 on: March 04, 2009, 03:29:55 AM »

Why is ionization a members only ?

Do you care what peeps think about that??

 here's a guy that makes allot of since and doesn't hide behind a curtain

OPEN SOURCE OR STUFF IT

My choice was to Allow all guest to read the ionization website, after i seen clearly that private sites is not good. The Reason you have to become a member at ionizationx.com to view anything is because stevie has gotton over 200 + advertisers and bots registering on his forum, I guess Stevie does not like bots and advertisers on his forum would be my guess. So that's the reason its members only... At least that's what I've been told.

I do care about what people think about ionizationx.com because i created it, At the time of its creation i wouldn't allow allot of stans devices on that forum. The forum was created just for Stanly's alternator. Its Stevie's forum, he runs it the way he wants, he deletes or adds to it what he wants. Me and Stevie are like brothers, I have mentioned to him that i wanted the forum certain ways (because it effects my appearance), also told him that i wouldn't carry the name that the forum was starting to give me,,, Which was free energy devices. I do not like to be known personally for claiming a free energy device if you want the truth, and if ionizationx comes down to that I'll leave! That's what i mentioned to Stevie and he also agrees somewhat.

There is nothing wrong with searching for Overunity devices, its just not who "hydrocars" is, or what he does. I pretty much am trying to crack this and run an engine on very low amounts of hydrogen and explain the workings rather than refer to it as free energy, all though it could be free energy i doubt you'll here it coming from me.

So if you come into our site with an overunity attitude, you probably will not catch my attention.

I am only a member there that enforces the rules that i mostly make, which the only rules there is be civil, do not take over other members threads, and no scroll posting in someone Else's thread, I usually give warning a few times before i take action. If i give warning to that member I'll be watching them. I've adjusted dankies attitude and I've also banned him, I also ask him to fix his attitude and come back to my forum. He clearly See's my way of direction and i have gained much respect from him, i also respect dankie as you all can see.  I would have respected buzz and give him a chance, Sometimes when you are as far gone as buzz was your better off not to attempt it. Dankie has become a changed person weather you know it or not.

I didn't think that kid would ever gain respect, but he did. I put my faith in the fact i could clean him up, and thats what i did. Today he still remains an ionization member, and he is one of our most active members. In fact, i just sent him an instant message because i'm concerned why he hasn't been posting much. i'm thinking he could have been threatened. I warned him to stay away from buzz since he was selling wire, and i have reason to believe buzz is an lawyer, "since he appears to know if what we're doing is illegal or not."

The reason i did not take action on buzz back then,, He had me between a rock and a hard spot, this could be where dankie is. Well,, It's not so easy to put me there a second time since stevie took the rock.   

When i started this thread i had a goal, Now its goal has been meet. Its not wasted space, and it should not be deleted.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #465 on: March 04, 2009, 03:29:55 AM »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #466 on: March 04, 2009, 03:32:01 AM »
Sorry Spewing I posted and then saw that you posted

You go boy !!

Open source is the only way

No room for EGO"S

To late for that

WE ARE ALL IN THIS MESS TOGETHER!!

 I would love to help some how

YOU NEED TO TAKE THE RAIN'S AND STEER THE COURSE

Give us something to do [to learn the way]

Chet


Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #467 on: March 04, 2009, 04:18:22 AM »
Confirm to your self that small engines idle at 6 to 800 rpm's and not 1k.

Make your own calculations;

Determine how many revs your crank turns at that rpm per second.

Determine when the valve opens, How many times it opens in that second, How long it stays open in that second, How long it was closed. 

Learn how many liters of hydroxy is used to run these same engines.

Determine their production in milliseconds, cc's. Learn your flow rate.

Learn how much gas is actually running the engine, and learn how much gas was not needed but was wasted when the valve was closed.

If your valve was open for 37 milliseconds, then how much gas went into that valve given that time period.  Americans wast, We always have.


Take you a Class, and calculate for me how much gas these boys are wasting. Meanwhile, i have things to mill. So you ask me to give you something to do, Then i want you to tell me how much gas is being wasted at 800 rpms using a 7 liter per min flow rate.

I want to know what makes the engine So inefficient when a hydrogen generator is used.

This is what you all should be working on today.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #467 on: March 04, 2009, 04:18:22 AM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #468 on: March 04, 2009, 05:01:23 AM »
SPEWING

as a young man I built airplanes[licensed A and P  FAA]

mechanics  are second nature to me

I like what you are saying more info please?

Chet

PS I CRAVE to help you!!

Honest to God people are DYING every day RIGHT NOW !!

Because they can't buy food or medicine or heat their homes, this is nothing to take lightly[not saying you are]

old folks and young are paying the ultimate price

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #469 on: March 04, 2009, 06:02:48 AM »
hhmmmmm how to get hydroxy to burn more effecient.. this i have pondered on for a long while.. my thoery from what i can gather out of stan's work is.. (this is for tapered cavity) the high energy state ozone/ionized O3 is short of many more electrons then low energy state ozone..  being mixed with the incoming water will most likely add a positve charge in the water.. so when the injector starts removing waters oxygen electrons you break the covalent bond of the atom.. when the hydrogen seperate's from oxygen.  a lot of the oxygen that was linked to water looses electrons to the ozone.. so now there's a lot of oxygen's electron deficient  and like mr good ole meyers says ..big ole oxygen will rob little ole hydrogen of its electron making it a measly little proton... boy let me tell you what from the way stan spoke of that proton in the videos boy it can get very agitated sometimes.. especially when it trys to relink into h2o but there's not enough electrons to go around... nitrogen can work as a carrier as well for positive charged oxygen's making nitrogen dioxide which decomposes at 150 degrees releasing more oxygen during combustion.

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"Corona discharge method

This is the most popular type of ozone generator for most industrial and personal uses. While variations of the "hot spark" coronal discharge method of ozone production exist, including medical grade and industrial grade ozone generators, these units usually work by means of a corona discharge tube.[35] They are typically very cost-effective and do not require an oxygen source other than the ambient air. However, they also produce nitrogen oxides as a by-product. Use of an air dryer can reduce or eliminate nitric acid formation by removing water vapor and increase ozone production. Use of an oxygen concentrator can further increase the ozone production and further reduce the risk of nitric acid formation by removing not only the water vapor, but also the bulk of the nitrogen..

The chemistry of nitrogen dioxide has been investigated intensively. At 150 °C, NO2 decomposes with release of oxygen via an endothermic process (ΔH = 114 kJ/mol)"


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #469 on: March 04, 2009, 06:02:48 AM »
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Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #470 on: March 04, 2009, 07:09:07 AM »
you should not avoid the sum.

Stevie reported to only have used 4 liters to idle his engine, But stevie did not use additives.  How much gas did he wast? 

I notified stevie and told him,,, Are you not aware of how much gas you're wasting.. I said dude,,, stop screwing with that lawn mower engine because you're already wasting half your gas.. he disagreed.  I ask him if he had a 4 cylinder, he stated that he had a 2 cylinder bike... I said stevie,,, I guarantee that you'll run that 2 cylinder easier than you ran that 1 cylinder, his reply to me was no way. I said i promise it. Anyways i convinced him to drag out his bike,, "and he did the following day." He reported that it did run on the same amount of gas his small engine used. You see, i brought to stevies attention that he was wasting over "half his gas" on that lawn mower. He's starting to see this now. Truth be told, over 3/4ths of the gas he used to run that mower was wasted. So what can one do to correct the american wast problem?

So let me get this straight,,, you're saying that 4 liters is to much that stevie could have used less gas? It was reported that 3.5 liters of gas may not idel the engine, why is this? Well, when you go from 4 liters to 3.5 liters you change the Flow Rate, and the valve stays open how long? You see, this is why i told you to do the math,, if you would do the math like i ask of you then you would have understood it wouldn't you. Now you're confused. Say you're producing 1 cc every 15 seconds, at 4 liters per min and the valve stays open for 37 milliseconds. This would mean you have injected 2.4 cc's into the combustion chamber of hydroxy gas. So even though stevie was producing to much gas to run the engine the flow rate must remain at 15 milliseconds for 1 cc, If you was to lower this number than the engine would not run. Is it possible to produce half the gas, say 2 liters and still have a flow rate of 15 millisecond 1 cc? Yes, it is possible, one must understand to do this that you must not let the gas flow when it is not needed, you have in one second 249 milliseconds to get your gas dilivered to your chamber, you also have 750 milliseconds to charge your flow rate line. Then why isn't everyone doing it? Well, they do not understand the technology, Perhaps they will catch on soon enough.

Since the bike idled on 4 liters of gas like the mower did, one would assume the bike needed 4 liters of gas of production to run... This is 100% a big misunderstanding. He got it on video,, ask him to share it with you.

Soon you'll probably be hearing people screaming, shut it off, shut it off... In case this happens and you are not aware what they're screaming about,,, They probably just realized how much gas they have been wasting, So they'll probably be sprinting towards their shut off valves until they correct the problem.

I'll be back soon enough, i got work to do.

Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #471 on: March 04, 2009, 07:57:05 AM »
Truth be told

Stevies valve remained open 249 milliseconds out of 1 second. Stevies Engine consumed 16 cc's of gas in the 249 miliseconds it remained open.

Therfor stevies engine was actually running on .960 cc's of gas per min.

Since stevie only needed 16 cc's every 249 milliseconds to run his engine out of one second, that left him with the rest of the second where his engine was refusing to accept the gas on idle which was 750 milliseconds. 

When you realize that stevie did not even need .960 cc's of gas to run his engine then one might want to further investigate.

If you want to really know what stevies engine was running on, and you are really good with math,,, you'll see that his engine was actually running on under 480 cc's per min. Now thats ass kicking is it....

So if stevies engine was really running on 480 millilers per min then this must mean he wasted  3.5 liters of hydroxy. Where in the shit did it go? And one may tell him self... Hydro i dont understand,,, And i'll say back,,, its because you have no ideal of what the effect of Flow Rate is. Flow rate is the golden key that many overlook and without it you will never understand this tech.

Guy's, common, some things you have to learn on your own, dont put it all on me,, i have load enough. I'll be back, work on this while i'm gone.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #471 on: March 04, 2009, 07:57:05 AM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #472 on: March 04, 2009, 12:57:32 PM »
Well boys, I see you’ve now got the place pretty much to yourselves - a real triumph for mindless stupidity… hope you’re all proud of yourselves.

I see too that ‘Hydro and his merry men’ are all now getting on famously without the constant interjection of some intelligent member trying to bring a little sense to the forum.

Yes, this thread had become a total waste of space and a real exercise in stupidity, but as pointed out earlier, it started that way from page one.

Stefan, I’m certainly not condoning Buzz’s actions in displaying personal information, but as you have now banned one of the very few people educated enough to hold an intelligent conversation with, while at the same time letting this bunch of misfits carry on their merry nonsense, I’m rather wondering what the point of the forum is?

Civil though they may now be, even the last few posts of nonsense provide more than enough information to highlight the fact that this forum is being overrun by retards.

We’ve got Outlaw wondering how to make hydroxy burn more efficiently…

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hhmmmmm how to get hydroxy to burn more effecient.. this i have pondered on for a long while.. my thoery from what i can gather out of stan's work is.. (this is for tapered cavity) the high energy state ozone/ionized O3 is short of many more electrons then low energy state ozone..

… what?  Outlaw really has no idea why that is such a stupid thing to say?  Yet who around here will challenge it?

We’ve got Blobstick talking crap, Ramset talking in riddles, not even capable of putting together a full sentence and Kinesis compliantly falling in line and adding his own unique brand of mindless stupidity.

And of course Hydro continues to be the flag bearer…

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Confirm to your self that small engines idle at 6 to 800 rpm's and not 1k.

…what?   How many ICEs do you know of that make a full revolution just once every 10 seconds!!

And for Christ’s sake, Hydro’s talking about ‘wasted hydroxy’?? 

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So if stevies engine was really running on 480 millilers per min then this must mean he wasted 3.5 liters of hydroxy. Where in the shit did it go?

Any excess hydroxy (and there won’t be any) is still there until the next inlet stroke. It isn’t wasted and doesn’t magically disappear… what is wrong with you people?!!

My car is dual fuel and can run on both gas (not gasoline) as well as petrol, and believe me gas (or petrol) doesn’t get wasted between strokes.

The banning of Buzz is certainly a major triumph for the Muppet Brigade, but in reality a real blow for the science, which will now blatantly follow Alice down the rabbit hole and into Wonderland. 

Around here, real Physics, Chemistry, Maths, Electronics and of course English are like some mysterious black art that should be steered well clear of, just in case it does not conform to the mindless gibberish.

Hydrocars has infected every other similar forum, and I suppose the nonsense on this thread – and many others - will now become rampant and continue unchecked, further deterring the keener minds from joining the forum and possibly contributing something useful.

What I don’t understand is why they feel the need to reduce these forums to the gutter when they have IONIZATIONX.com.

There will clearly come a point whereby you misfits will be the only people on any of the forums, patting each other on the back for every ridiculous post, continually making false claims and generally talking nonsense, while undoubtedly remaining the laughing stock of the community.

Evidently here, science and intellect has to make way for fantasy and stupidity. I suggest that if this is what the world is coming to we have much bigger things to worry about than the forthcoming fuel crisis!

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #473 on: March 04, 2009, 01:07:35 PM »
Do what you will with this thread

 Do I care what people think of me ??

 NOOOOOO.... this is not about me

Why is ionization a members only ?

Do you care what peeps think about that??

 here's a guy that makes alot of sence and doesn't hide behind a curtain

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained-7.html

 Chet


OPEN SOURCE OR STUFF IT

Hi Ramset,

Its Steve from ionizationx. The only reason for closing de automatic doors of my forum are the spam bots. I got everyday many new members. All from spambots and they placed adverts on the forum.
Well. My forum is not my work, but sometimes it looks like it very much.
So, i have to get a confirmation from all new members who they are and why they want to have access.  I hope you understand.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #473 on: March 04, 2009, 01:07:35 PM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #474 on: March 04, 2009, 01:14:55 PM »
Steve

How do other forums run as view only ?

No posting unless your a member?

Chet

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #475 on: March 04, 2009, 01:16:41 PM »
TheBuzz and his other 2 usernames
Meltdown and CabinBoy are banned now.

He violated many of the forum´s TOS and he was warned already
in earlier times.
Also I deleted one of his messages,
where he revealed personal information of another user.

Regards, Stefan.(admin)

Very good Stefan.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #475 on: March 04, 2009, 01:16:41 PM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #476 on: March 04, 2009, 01:28:30 PM »
Farah Day

If you can contribute useful information ?

you should

Chet

The proof is in the pudding

Not the talk [Theories]

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #477 on: March 04, 2009, 03:38:32 PM »
Spewing

After reading your posts on wasting  Hydroxy

Your point is well taken  .Only gas that gets in when the intake valve is open actually does work!!

We dont need hydroxy to purge out burnt exhaust or waste during the rest of the strokes[3]

With a flame front of 8500 Feet per second [it all gets burned [not like gasoline or PETROL]

So it sounds like comparing HHO   BTU  TO GASOLINE BTU [for power purpose] ,and injecting the equivalent HHO at the right instant [instead of free flow through a carburetor] is what you are getting at

Myself

I would like to take smaller steps.Your success with no electrolyte ,Is HUGE ,just how huge would be explained with a little more info

How many watts are you using in your last video with straight water?

I'm glad you are working on engines ,I would like to work on home heating. less moving parts faster results and some anomalies about HHO and different metals ,ceramics that should be open sourced

If you can share any of what you are doing to make that much gas with no poisonous additives,

That would be fantastic!!

This is the key to HHO and home heating ''pure water''[within reason] no electrolyte ,no chimney ,all heat does work!!

Chet

This is already being done in south Korea [a secret process ]

 http://www.browngas.com/eng_bestkorea/history_1.htm
OPEN SOURCE!!
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #478 on: March 04, 2009, 04:19:37 PM »
i would say this is one of the most important statement stan makes when it comes to gas production.in the wfc tech.
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In each and all "Space State" of changes,
the combustible gas atoms of water is/are "Electrically Stress" under "different" pressure levels to bring-on
the triggering point of thermally igniting the combustible gases of water beyond or away from "Stable State"
of Equilibrium. Voltage Tickling of State Space under "Resonant Electrical Stress" without amp influxing
while "Tuning-ln" to the dielectric properties of water is herein referred to in this WFC Tech-manual as
"Resonant Action."

"resonant electrical stress"... he means so much more by that then most people can see at the moment... its not just hiting the cell with equal volts it oscillates as well.. you will see stan speaks of static voltage and dynamic voltage.. those are two different types of application of the voltage and those two in combination with waterfuel cell he calls "resonant electrical stress" if it was just the voltage being applied wouldnt he call it somthing like resonant voltage stress? if i were to compare the way the cell is hit.. i would compare it to A/C but its not the same..if i were to name it my self i would name it S/C switching current.. see A/C is using the electrons in wire to alternate. S/C allows the potentials to remain on there sides.. like the positive will be switching on and off while only putting off a positve field.. the negative side will have the electrons.. oscillating like a/c.. when turned on and off..  ..image hitting it in this sequence in repetition...
+B/0v                   +B/-B                    0v/-B
dynamic                static                    dynamic

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #479 on: March 04, 2009, 04:22:28 PM »
My choice was to Allow all guest to read the ionization website, after i seen clearly that private sites is not good. The Reason you have to become a member at ionizationx.com to view anything is because stevie has gotton over 200 + advertisers and bots registering on his forum, I guess Stevie does not like bots and advertisers on his forum would be my guess. So that's the reason its members only... At least that's what I've been told.

I do care about what people think about ionizationx.com because i created it, At the time of its creation i wouldn't allow allot of stans devices on that forum. The forum was created just for Stanly's alternator. Its Stevie's forum, he runs it the way he wants, he deletes or adds to it what he wants. Me and Stevie are like brothers, I have mentioned to him that i wanted the forum certain ways (because it effects my appearance), also told him that i wouldn't carry the name that the forum was starting to give me,,, Which was free energy devices. I do not like to be known personally for claiming a free energy device if you want the truth, and if ionizationx comes down to that I'll leave! That's what i mentioned to Stevie and he also agrees somewhat.

There is nothing wrong with searching for Overunity devices, its just not who "hydrocars" is, or what he does. I pretty much am trying to crack this and run an engine on very low amounts of hydrogen and explain the workings rather than refer to it as free energy, all though it could be free energy i doubt you'll here it coming from me.

So if you come into our site with an overunity attitude, you probably will not catch my attention.

I am only a member there that enforces the rules that i mostly make, which the only rules there is be civil, do not take over other members threads, and no scroll posting in someone Else's thread, I usually give warning a few times before i take action. If i give warning to that member I'll be watching them. I've adjusted dankies attitude and I've also banned him, I also ask him to fix his attitude and come back to my forum. He clearly See's my way of direction and i have gained much respect from him, i also respect dankie as you all can see.  I would have respected buzz and give him a chance, Sometimes when you are as far gone as buzz was your better off not to attempt it. Dankie has become a changed person weather you know it or not.

I didn't think that kid would ever gain respect, but he did. I put my faith in the fact i could clean him up, and thats what i did. Today he still remains an ionization member, and he is one of our most active members. In fact, i just sent him an instant message because i'm concerned why he hasn't been posting much. i'm thinking he could have been threatened. I warned him to stay away from buzz since he was selling wire, and i have reason to believe buzz is an lawyer, "since he appears to know if what we're doing is illegal or not."

The reason i did not take action on buzz back then,, He had me between a rock and a hard spot, this could be where dankie is. Well,, It's not so easy to put me there a second time since stevie took the rock.   

When i started this thread i had a goal, Now its goal has been meet. Its not wasted space, and it should not be deleted.

Some amateur hacker is trying o hack my comps , I had to shut down my 2 comps wich had XP yesterday . Only my bro's comp , the vista comp caught the burglar , its a program that tries to access my comp but gets blocked by vista .

Its like , when I click on an icon like the home icon for example , a download starts without my consent and my mouse is frozen , this has happened to me on this site and on energeticforum.com ( when I was using a proxy for that site ) . Had to shut down my power supply in a panic .

This is * pissing me off , cant open my comps now .

 

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