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Author Topic: HydroMeyers Vic  (Read 237148 times)

Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #255 on: February 19, 2009, 03:26:28 AM »
so buzz
yea me englesh may not bee thee best but i dont care enough to perfect it. lol anyways so you say you have read it 10 times? where should i start for making a 350 chevy run on water? what are the components needed?. i need a alternator some ferrite rods and alot of wire? a good  diode for the positive choke? are the chokes wound together or seperate? what size wire should i use? what do i need to build to power it?? if im being misled can u  give me an overall of what i need to fix my misleaded mind? can you do that? maybe people might stop arguing if you give a overall and they see your full side of the story... ive only read his material twice and i havent sunk the value of a plane in my projects. so im not as far along. people need to stop fighting it weetoded..

Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #256 on: February 20, 2009, 02:33:33 AM »
buzz your hilarious.. you sound like you must have been a mommas boy. just remember in real life not this internet chat fight that i am the ALPHA male your just a little prison june june. your talk to try to make me sound stupid only humors me..  i know if we met in person you wouldnt say one word that you have said on here to my face.. and thats what makes you a june june. i would bitchsmack you so quick you would run to ur mommy crying for the teet.

for reading the work 10 times and spending so much of your time and money on this you  dont understand the multi-spool coil? how could you have spent so much money when you just admited you dont even know the wiring for the choke multispool choke bifiliar wound bobbins??.  seems like that would be somthing you just fell into figuring out with lots of money in experimenting..  lol thats funny.  then you mention showing off your sine waves soon lol..kevin west can show you a good tidal wave on his youtube videos all day. yours will most likely be a computer animation of your imaginary setup working.

good luck on being a little june june in your gaily life.

ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #257 on: February 20, 2009, 08:25:41 PM »
Can you hear that?

Nothing!!??

SHHH.. I thought I heard something!!

Shudup and eat your popcorn!!

Its Friday the fights don't start for hours

Shh...did you hear that...It sounded like a shoe dropped??




AhuraMazda

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #258 on: February 21, 2009, 02:21:43 PM »
Chet
Dont make comments comments like that.
This thread was built on mutual disrespect!

Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #259 on: February 21, 2009, 05:39:58 PM »
ladys and gents,

things to know about inductor chokes

1- The current that an inductor can handle depends on the size of the wire. The inductance
does not; it is a function of the number of turns in the coil, the diameter of the
coil, and the overall shape of the coil.

2- In general, inductance of a coil is directly proportional to the number of turns of
wire. Inductance is also directly proportional to the diameter of the coil. The length of
a coil, given a certain number of turns and a certain diameter, has an effect also: the
longer the coil, the less the inductance

3-Very small coils, with few turns of wire, produce small inductances, in which the
current changes quickly and the voltages are small. Huge coils with ferromagnetic
cores, and having many turns of wire, have large inductances, in which the current
changes slowly and the voltages are large

4- As long as the magnetic fields around inductors do not interact, inductances in series
add like resistances in series. The total value is the sum of the individual values. It’s important
to be sure that you are using the same size units for all the inductors when you
add their values.


-all in all we know that current is determined by size of wire used.
-inductance is determined by geometrical demensions of coil  and has direct relationship to number of winds.
-the longer geometrical coil the less inductance.. thats why 6-1 magnifies in individual cavities it is considered a 16th of an inch inductor. and its like having 14 seperate chokes in series. its also why the choke in his water polarization unit is small.
-Huge coils with ferromagnetic cores, having many turns of wire, have large inductances, in which the current changes slowly and the voltages are large

note of number 4- As long as the magnetic fields around inductors do not interact, inductances in series
add like resistances in series..
they are definatly interacting which would take away resistance in 6-1. this i beleave is why the all in one unit requires resistive wire.  then again depending on how the choke wire is wired you can have 2 seperate wires (Bifiliar) flowing the same way?

outlawstc

ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #260 on: February 21, 2009, 06:38:00 PM »
Outlaw

Thanks for sharing that info

Chet

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #261 on: February 21, 2009, 07:11:41 PM »
no problem ramset. here is some more quite useful information.

Filter chokes
The largest values of inductance that can be obtained in practice are on the order of
several henrys. The primary use of a coil this large is to smooth out the pulsations in direct
current that result when ac is rectified in a power supply. This type of coil is known
as a filter choke

Inductors at radio frequency
The radio frequencies range from 9 kHz to well above 100 GHz. At the low end of this
range, inductors are similar to those at audio frequencies. As the frequency increases,
cores having lower permeability are used. Toroids are quite common up through about
30 MHz


Inductors at audio frequencies range in value from a few millihenrys up to about 1 H.
They are almost always toroidally wound, or are wound in a pot core, or comprise part
of an audio transformer.
Inductors can be used in conjunction with moderately large values of capacitance
in order to obtain audio tuned circuits. However, in recent years, audio tuning has
been taken over by active components, particularly integrated circuits


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toroid and pot core chokes will not work.. they can only be used in a pre determined circuit that doesnt need to be tuned..  stan is using a tunable negative choke. ruling them out. i know of two ways to make a tunable choke.. one is to finely sand a  line from end to end of coil and use a copper rod that can slide from end to end..  the copper rod is attached to secondary neg along with neg choke.. the other way is shown in pic.. allowing your ferro rod to be adjustabe.   the one in the pic would work really good for having ability of electronic control by means of servo.

please buzz dont disagree with my non intelect self.. remember i am a moron becasue i dont write like a 12th grade english teacher..

outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #262 on: February 22, 2009, 03:43:26 AM »
The Dead Cow and Vet School

 

First-year students at the UC Davis Vet school were receiving their first anatomy class, with a real dead cow.

They all gathered around the surgery table with the body covered with a white sheet. The professor started the class by telling them, 'In Veterinary Medicine it is necessary to have two important qualities as a doctor: The first is that you not be disgusted by anything involving the animal body.' For an example, the Professor pulled back the sheet, stuck his finger in the butt of the dead cow, withdrew it and stuck his finger in his mouth.

'Go ahead and do the same thing,' he told his students. The students freaked out, hesitated for several minutes, but eventually took turns sticking a finger in the anal opening of the dead cow and sucking on it.

When everyone finished, the Professor looked at them and said, 'The second most important quality is observation. I stuck in my middle finger and sucked on my index finger.' 'Now learn to pay attention. Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid.'

Spewing

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #263 on: February 22, 2009, 07:46:07 AM »
Call me crazy but i just had the strangest feeling. Outlaw and buzz is the same member or they are good friends?

I know i know, its crazy, what was i thinking,,,, I wonder what brown thinks.


dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #264 on: February 22, 2009, 06:48:26 PM »
Nah outlaw is cool ... I even released the pics under a proxy name close to him so Dyno wouldnt  be pissed @ me .

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6711.10


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #265 on: February 22, 2009, 08:02:14 PM »
farrahday from waterfuelcell forums and thebuzz are the same person.....

AhuraMazda

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #266 on: February 23, 2009, 01:24:20 AM »
I am Spartacus.

dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #267 on: February 23, 2009, 04:18:33 PM »
I am Spartacus.

No you are a retard , I'm looking to get you banned from planet x

You are a parasite , you havent posted since may 2008


AhuraMazda

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #268 on: February 23, 2009, 06:42:35 PM »
No you are a retard , I'm looking to get you banned from planet x

You are a parasite , you havent posted since may 2008



@Dankie,

I think you've got the wrong Spartacus. Where is planetx anyway?

Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #269 on: February 23, 2009, 07:29:49 PM »
this is fact not fiction so listen up,

Electrons can move rather easily from one atom to another in some materials. In
other substances, it is difficult to get electrons to move. But in any case, it is far easier
to move electrons than it is to move protons. Electricity almost always results, in some
way, from the motion of electrons in a material.

Electrons are much lighter than protons or neutrons. In fact, compared to the nucleus
of an atom, the electrons weigh practically nothing.

Generally, the number of electrons in an atom is the same as the number of protons.
The negative charges therefore exactly cancel out the positive ones, and the atom is
electrically neutral. But under some conditions, there can be an excess or shortage of
electrons. High levels of radiant energy, extreme heat, or the presence of an electric field
 can “knock” or “throw” electrons loose from atoms, upsetting the balance

Ions
If an atom has more or less electrons than neutrons, that atom acquires an electrical
charge. A shortage of electrons results in positive charge; an excess of electrons gives a
negative charge. The element’s identity remains the same, no matter how great the excess
or shortage of electrons. In the extreme case, all the electrons might be removed

Conductors
In some materials, electrons move easily from atom to atom. In others, the electrons
move with difficulty. And in some materials, it is almost impossible to get them to move.
An electrical conductor is a substance in which the electrons are mobile.

An insulating material is sometimes called a dielectric. This term arises from the
fact that it keeps electrical charges apart, preventing the flow of electrons that would
equalize a charge difference between two places. Excellent insulating materials can be
used to advantage in certain electrical components such as capacitors, where it is important
that electrons not flow.

An EMF (electromotive force) of one volt, across a resistance of one ohm, will cause a current of one ampere
to flow. This is a classic relationship in electricity, and is stated generally as Ohm’s Law.
If the EMF is doubled, the current is doubled. If the resistance is doubled, the current
is cut in half.

It is possible to have an EMF without having any current. This is the case just
before a lightning bolt occurs, and before you touch that radiator after walking on the
carpet. It is also true between the two wires of an electric lamp when the switch is
turned off. It is true of a dry cell when there is nothing connected to it. There is no current,
but a current is possible given a conductive path between the two points. Voltage,
or EMF, is sometimes called potential or potential difference for this reason

i dont want to here any debates.. read lean understand..

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charges in a wire are caused by excess or shortage of electrons for copper atoms.

conductors allow more fluid transfer of electrons..
t
he stainless steel will create resistance less fluid like transfer

emf transformers put out higher current as frequency increases..

double the resistance current drops by half

10-20khz is a low frequency so lower current being forced by emf transformer primary to secondary
turns then take over for upping volts.. even more volts and resistance/ impeadance is added by chokes to restrict the low amp voltage.

positve choke gets super saturated with positve copper ions.. the capacitance of the choke means more volume for more positive copper ions to be stored.. they in return want electrons so bad there trying to steel waters electons.. it will go for waters before it will go for the negative excitor plate since the waters are closer.. any that try to jump in the form of current is choked of by resistance of neg choke.
when tuning negative choke to waters resistance you are mainly lowering its potential of neg to prevent it from being strong enough to cross.

hope this helps all


outlawstc