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AhuraMazda

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #210 on: February 12, 2009, 03:59:26 AM »
I see you went back and deleted a bunch of your posts in this thread. Now why would you do that?

I did not see his answer but I attribute it to parasitic tendencies.

AhuraMazda

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #211 on: February 12, 2009, 01:53:28 PM »
Maybe Dankie should include a weeks supply of vallium with each order since the #46 wire is so small it breaks at about 7 grams of tension.

LOL. 7 grams break point. Are you talking about dankie or the wire?

dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #212 on: February 12, 2009, 03:50:53 PM »
Dankie,

Got some questions for ya.

Did you talk to the guy that had Meyer buggy and did he specify that size #46 wire for that size coil?

Did the guy tell you anything about how those outer banks are wound if they are?

Do you have any more photo angles of the coil?

There are other possibilities for the coil.

No these are the only photos I received , and now orion has everything Don cant ask his friend to take more pictures.

The wire is # 36 (.005) you retard , not 46 ... Stan specifies .004 ( #38)  for the VIC , but at another place he specifies .006 (#34) for some other coil config .

So I split the middle and went for #36


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #213 on: February 12, 2009, 05:23:23 PM »
Wasn't the primary wound as a solenoid and placed in the middle between the two grooved spools?

dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #214 on: February 12, 2009, 10:58:11 PM »
I was just quoting what someone else told me.

Retard? I thought we had a little chat the other day sunshine... You should post the rest of the photos while you still can. :)

You missed this question:
Did the guy tell you anything about how those outer banks are wound if they are?

The reason I ask is if you look at his center spool replication, the banks are cut low and then there is a space above that about 5mm. Not normal and indicates another coil sat in that space. Then over the top of that is the outer spool with the narrow slots.

Yes they are wound in same clockwise direction , everything is wound in the same clockwise direction ...

Theres only 2 spools , Stan wrapped the primary on the chokes bobbin , this is why theres much room on it

I'm afraid this is all the pircutres we will see , unless Orion decides to post some info about their purchase .




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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #215 on: February 13, 2009, 05:39:05 PM »
St Buzz

Seems like the boy's are speechless

  Chet

dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #216 on: February 13, 2009, 06:29:36 PM »
St_Buzz

All those pics are old , everybody has seen them . The pics I posted here  a few weeks old were given to me by Dynodon . All of Meyers stuff was taken apart so nobody could ever make it work if they stole it .

The coil bobbin is the VIC from figure 6-1 , its made with 2 bobbin sections and the primary is wrapped on the chokes section as shown on the drawing . It was made with laminate steel EI core .

It is the VIC that was used with the injector retrofit system , the injector is filled up every engine cycled and the VIC blows up that water ... No gas processor needed , it was needed for the exhaust gases . The gas processor did not act on water or hydroxy gas or water vapor or w/e other form of water ...

How many times must I repeat myself .







« Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 07:04:12 PM by dankie »

dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #217 on: February 13, 2009, 11:56:01 PM »
This does not making sense to me. Here is a photo of VIC 6.1 I don't see that in this image. What are those toroid looking things in the drawing? Maybe that is a toroid coil form and the photo is of an e-core.

You truely are a funny person St_Buzz , those "toroids" represent the magnetic flux .


dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #218 on: February 13, 2009, 11:59:30 PM »
Dankie,

While the transformer has mysteriously had the wires removed prior to photographing, we have a photo you supplied of someone (that same person that would have removed the wires?) holding up a spool he suggests will be a replication.

There is a strange space between what you call the secondary wound in the inner spool banks and the outer larger spool where you claim the primary is wound in the same clockwise method.

Correct?

How do you account for the space between winds. The law of inverse square distance losses would suggest that there would be quite a bit of loss between the coils.

That picture is a beautiful clue ... you can see how high the primary  goes , the primary should be .030 Gauge wire .

Yes , there seems to be some cut in the bobbin to facilitate the transition between spools .


dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #219 on: February 14, 2009, 04:37:39 AM »
Let's try looking at the figure you cite. 6-1 Yes, I see now, those represent magnetic lines. Now that I know what figure you are referencing we can have a conversation. It didn't have to go this far...

If you download foxit reader, (free PDF reader) you can search 6-1 and you will come up with the references to that drawing. Notice the references to the taper resonant cavity and the injector? It only furthers my claim that you are trying to build a VIC using the directions from the injector VIC which get's the high voltage from the spark plug wire and steps it down.

So here are my questions about the figure 6-1 you cite.

1. Notice that the secondary pick up coils are wrapped over the primary on the large outside bobbin? How do you explain that? You are saying to wrap the primary on the inside.

2. How do you explain that protruding electrical steel core running through the center? Don't you think that is the center electrode that runs through the center of the injector?

There is a method of winding a coil where the primary is on the INSIDE and secondary is one the outside wrapped over the top of that. The first coils ever wound were wound this way and they were called disruptive discharge coils. You need a breaker contact or a spark gap to make them work.

This only bolsters my claim you are trying to wind a step up transformer with a step down transformer electrically sourced from the distributor output. I.e., using information regarding the injector to build a step up transformer.

Nice... That will keep the dependtards spinning their wheels on oil a while longer.

In the future I will answer your questions , for now I dont know myself .

You are free to speculate on this cioil all you like .

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #220 on: February 14, 2009, 03:37:18 PM »
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dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #221 on: February 14, 2009, 05:04:55 PM »
Quote from The_Buzz

This does not making sense to me. Here is a photo of VIC 6.1 I don't see that in this image. What are those toroid looking things in the drawing? Maybe that is a toroid coil form and the photo is of an e-core.





The_Buzz is quite the reader and the observer , he sees "secret toroids" ... I thank you for playing my game The_Buzz .

« Last Edit: February 14, 2009, 06:00:38 PM by dankie »

dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #222 on: February 14, 2009, 05:27:05 PM »
Dankie, I didn't realize you were looking the the wrong image but should have. Only a retard would look at a drawing of an injector circuit (step down vic?) being fed by a magneto and think it was a transformer photo you posted.

Were you using the mirror image counter intel technique AKA the big lie or did you just fall for it?

Sorry Dankie, whether you are doing counter intelligence or are just counter intelligent, it is irrelevant to me. Stupid is as stupid does - Forrest Gump.

Good luck selling all that wire, I'm sure people will be thrilled to give you their name and address...

Run Forrest, run!

we will sreensave

dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #223 on: February 14, 2009, 06:24:28 PM »
Good, I hope you do.

Isn't it something that you are so clueless about electronics and magnetics you don't know how a common mode choke works or notice or care that the transformer you cite in 6-1 is wound inside out. I.e., the secondary is on the outside?

It is almost like factual information or intelligence does not enter into your brain. You know, logic, reason and accountability. It is like you will believe anything.

Let's do a belief experiment:

Dankie if you wrap 10,000 turns of that 403FR wire around your neck super tight, all your energy will be free and the world will be a better place. Remember to make it good and tight so there is no leakage..

Kiss Miss Missy

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #224 on: February 14, 2009, 08:17:19 PM »
i will have to agree with dankies ideas on the vic buzz.. see your still stuck on comon choke ideas not realizing that vic 6-1 isnt a comon style choke at all.. it is on a EI core having magnatization permibility not just on a single core... which can explain his so called building a transformer inside out. your still stuck on thinking it is part of the spark plug..  i thought that at once but stans tri coil data says otherwise... by knowing how much wire is involved for making it,