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Offline dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #195 on: February 11, 2009, 03:22:44 AM »
I love you  :-*

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« Reply #195 on: February 11, 2009, 03:22:44 AM »

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« Reply #196 on: February 11, 2009, 03:27:20 AM »
I am fully aware of the difference between longitudinal and transverse waves and how two opposing longitudinal waves create matter. I have posted much information on this subject on this web site.

My problem with you is you are a fucking dependtard like hydrostupid with all your I have some big secret and look at me I need attention. Your pack mentality and craving for adoration is what drives you, not an attempt to understand how it works.

The primary of that coil was electricity flowing in two different directions. The wire is barely inductive conductive if at all. I have wound that coil twice now and it does not produce any electricity.

Now if you look at the drawing in Meyer's notes, you see a pulse going into the primary. Since the coil can't generate electricity (transform) where is the electricity coming from?

The coils is designed to remove electrons from a wire that is attached to a injector OR a tube cell - electron extraction.

I would post a patent for an accelerator coil that would clear it up for you but you and your dependtard pack cabal of idiots have done nothing but turf the water fuel movement from day one.

That's O.K. Dankie, unlike you there are a lot of people like me that wind coil roughly once a day and actually know what we are talking about. Simple? Yeah,.you are simple. All idiots are.

The fact that it is a retrofit has nothing to do with how it functions at a EM level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEXnsPbzSg

Wow great , it shouldnt eat too much power then , electricity is not the point my friend . VOLTAGE is . Thx for confirming to me he proof of concept , even tho I know you are probably lying .

In an electronic circuit theres voltage and amp flow , VOLTAGE IS NOT CONSUMED IN AN ELCTRICAL CIRCUIT -

-Stanley Meyers

plz watch this video , Stan gives a quick lesson about this .


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #197 on: February 11, 2009, 03:36:13 AM »
Do you really think I need to watch a video to know that a circuit contains current and amp flow? I wrote a theory about what electricity is and how it gets produced at a below sub-sub atomic level. Nobody has proven it wrong or even challenged it. Pretty sure I know something about that subject.

BTW  - The wire I used was paddle wire. .5 mil and ohms out at 7 ohms per foot. Where did Meyer claim 20?

You paid $3000 for your wire Einstein, I paid $3.

your point ? Individual portions are cheaper. ;D

Somebody had to do it . Somebody had to come up with the money all by himself and buy thousand of dollars of wire .

Meyers never specifies any resistance value exept that typo. This is the ohmic value of 36 AWG 430FR is 19.775 ohms per foot . It makes perfect sense that Meyers would have used this alloy, it used in fuel injectors because of its low coercivity and high permeability , it is used to make more powerful more compact magnetic components but "doesnt stick" ... Read more plz , everything Meyers says is on Q and perfectly coherent with what Carpenter is saying .

Now normally this never comes in wire form, never this thin anyways  , it is used as a core material usually ...

All the info is there

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1185


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #197 on: February 11, 2009, 03:36:13 AM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #198 on: February 11, 2009, 05:01:56 AM »
it can be done with copper....too a certain voltage level.....after that the amount of copper needed gets a bit ridiculous.....remember in stans patents of his earlier vic coil it was constructed with copper.

so to achieve the injector/ionization method voltages of 40kv must be obtained which can be done with wire consisting of a higher resistance but must still have an inductance factor.

wow you are an idiot buzz i said this in the beginning.....also about your step charging lie coming from the power source......

here is your image that you made in red.....mine is blue
NOTICE THAT THE INPUT IS A FULL WAVE RECITIFICATION OF AN AC CURRENT VIA A BRIDGE RECTIFIER.......THE OUTPUT IS THE SAME FULL BRIDGE RECITIFICATION BUT WITH GATING......WHERE IS THE STEP CHARGING COMING FROM THE SOURCE???...oh that's right it doesn't happen that way from the source.....the source is a constant pulse and inside the capacitor step charging occurs......even for the water injectors there is step charging going on the only difference is a step charge takes a fraction of a moment...therefore making it seem like the instant thermal explosion of water.

wave 1 is what comes out of the stepped up isolated pulse transformer and into the VIC......wave 2 is what comes out of the vic and is further enhanced. wave 3 is what is sent into the water capacitor and the diagonal line is how the water capacitor builds a charge......i can prove this IDENTICALLY ON MY OSCILLOSCOPE.

once again you are a fool you your cavitation, and your magneto bullshit.....the thing you have highlighted is if anything to induce gating.

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« Reply #199 on: February 11, 2009, 05:19:22 AM »
That does not prove anything. I have never seen a water cap charge without a spark gap.

The space in the mark space was there to keep the cap from going into infinity and arcing over - boom.

haha you have never seen one eh?.....then you aren't using voltage potential, amperage must be cut to a minimum of 1/1000th.

and no the gating space has nothing to do with noises or child "booms and bangs"

the space if there for an LC resonance to occur....i URGE you to READ the FIRST SECTION of the TECHNICAL BRIEF......there is a reason why the conceptual part comes first.....so people like YOU...can realize what is meant by K.I.S.S.

BOOM! hahahahahah NO.

OH AND EDIT:.....THE CAP WILL NEVER GO TO INFINITY....JACKOFF.

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« Reply #199 on: February 11, 2009, 05:19:22 AM »
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Offline kinesisfilms

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #200 on: February 11, 2009, 05:27:45 AM »
you better choose your words carefully....i don't tolerate people like you bringing down the truth.

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« Reply #201 on: February 11, 2009, 05:49:33 AM »
you honestly just babbled straight bullshit.......there are two transformers in this schematic which one are you refering to?...the first is a simple inverter layout.....the second transformers primary winding is in the same orientation as it's secondary.....YOU ARE RAMBLING.......KEEP YOUR LOGIC IN A LINE......i dont care if you built a childs project...every 14 year old and there nerdy father have built one......w00t.....you get the shit-medal........and as for the spectrum analyzer i can't wait to see you mathematically work your way there with unknown variables......but at this rate you don't even have the proper pulse from the source.....i would love to answer your garbage filled response to your incorrect statements earlier but i don't know where to begin since it has no beginning or end......scum.

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« Reply #201 on: February 11, 2009, 05:49:33 AM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #202 on: February 11, 2009, 05:51:51 AM »
planning to prove you false claim of a "replication" using a spectrum analyzer

Those are your unintelligible words. Unlike you, I am not functionally illiterate.

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you just use spellcheck dumbass.

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« Reply #203 on: February 11, 2009, 06:29:47 AM »

That does not prove anything. I have never seen a water cap charge without a spark gap.

The space in the mark space was there to keep the cap from going into infinity and arcing over - boom.


There is something wrong or missing from the VIC circuit. 

In the page that Ritchie Burnett (sp?) has on resonant DC charging - the voltage only goes to 2x input - which isn't necessarily a lot and the spark gap or a switch to dump the cap is "required".

The diode just get's rid of the q-crap, so WTF?

OK so Meyer uses pulses instead of DC, so that replaces the gap, but then we look at the overdriven waveform on Ritchie's page and see the Meyer stepped charge - wah-lah!   Except it does not rise to infinity but only to 2x input.

Don't try to tell me he was using displacement current or scalar waves either - I ain't buyin' it.



I'll shoot you an email, Buzz, we won't be needing the damn VIC anymore.


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #203 on: February 11, 2009, 06:29:47 AM »
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« Reply #204 on: February 11, 2009, 07:28:21 AM »
Notice how grumpy asks this question right after kinessisfilms claims he replicated meyer and is going to prove it just as soon as he gets those cables for the spectrum analyzer he bought?

Now go back to about page 5 and see if you can find his rant about how he replicated Meyer and is "going to settle this once and for all"

Notice how he went back and edited that all out of the that post? Notice how he keeps falsely claiming I do that?

That is the reason people like this are so stupid. They lack integrity to the point of being insane.


unlike you i never went back and changed anything....FIND WHERE I DELETED ANYTHING ONE THING YOU NAME IT ONE FUCKING THING WHAT DID I CHANGE YOU LIE THROUGH YOUR TEETH IN FRONT OF EVERYONE THIS IS IT THIS IS THE DEAL SEALER...NOW I KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT IN MY HEART YOU ARE EVIL.

I WILL SHOW MY REPLICATION WHEN IT IS IDENTICAL I DO NOT HAVE 40KV VOLTAGE LEVELS BECUASE I DO NOT HAVE A STAINLESS STEEL VIC I HAVE SAID THIS OVER AND OVER.

AND WOOT I FOUND A TYPO YOU DO THE SAME THING. SCUM SCUM SCUM.....PICK YOURSELF UP OFF THE FLOOR YOU WORTHLESS LIAR....and just because i have a life and can't respond back to you instantly doesn't mean you post a ton of things one after another in 10 minute intervals acting like I'm not responding.... I'm at my other place im not here to hold your hand and explain everything to you when you are wrong..... your words are perpendicular to meyers......you ARE THE LOUDEST LIAR.


BEWARE BLIND FOLLOWERS WHO DON'T KNOW BETTER

YOU ARE FOLLOWING A HORRIBLE PIDE PIPER BUZZ IS A FALSE LEADER.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #205 on: February 11, 2009, 07:31:51 AM »


OK so Meyer uses pulses instead of DC, so that replaces the gap, but then we look at the overdriven waveform on Ritchie's page and see the Meyer stepped charge - wah-lah!   Except it does not rise to infinity but only to 2x input.


grumpy what do you mean he uses pulses instead of DC.....he uses PULSED DC......

birds of a feather flock together buzz and grumpy are fools ......and to be honest at this point i would rather roll with dankie the least of the idiots...atleast he is on the right track in places......IONIZATIONX IS ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING......the only people worth anything in the hydrogen field at this website are the spark plug guys.....bob krupa even knew what was under the white cap of the water injectors.....too bad you probably didn't listen to that interview.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #206 on: February 11, 2009, 12:59:35 PM »
There is something wrong or missing from the VIC circuit. 

In the page that Ritchie Burnett (sp?) has on resonant DC charging - the voltage only goes to 2x input - which isn't necessarily a lot and the spark gap or a switch to dump the cap is "required".

The diode just get's rid of the q-crap, so WTF?

OK so Meyer uses pulses instead of DC, so that replaces the gap, but then we look at the overdriven waveform on Ritchie's page and see the Meyer stepped charge - wah-lah!   Except it does not rise to infinity but only to 2x input.

Don't try to tell me he was using displacement current or scalar waves either - I ain't buyin' it.
I'll shoot you an email, Buzz, we won't be needing the damn VIC anymore.

Grumpy,

Just a little mind set:

The Richy pages are showing what Meyer was telling.
Stan found a way to get HV across a deadshort condition of his tubes.
If you look at the DC resonance circuit of Burnett, you see the resonance coil.
The property's of such a coil is that the currentflow cannot change quickly.
So, if you use a rotaryswitch to connect a tubeset to that circuit, you can hit HV to it, without pulling amps, because the resonance choke cannot change state quickly.

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« Reply #207 on: February 11, 2009, 06:00:17 PM »
Stevie, that does not make sense. The process is far more complicated than a high voltage transformer or resonance. It is a little of both with some switching and a funky bifilar coil in between.

You are right that an inductor is not going to allow a reversal of DC current but in order to charge an inductor we need a bunch of current. If the inductor is resonant then current transfer is minimal since it is reversing when it resonates. That supplies the RF aspect of Meyer and at every step of the way, even in his original tube cell, there was a low frequency RF.

I think I have managed to put some stuff together in the last few hours regarding that bifilar coil.

I feel that bifilar coil and the switching have more to do with Meyer's early work than many people realize who are so focused on with the tube cells. His last incarnation used high voltage at high frequency. As his technology evolved, the frequency went up and he relied less on electrolysis.

One of the reasons that people argue is that Meyer tried it all. They look at early process and try and apply it to a later and completely different process. An open mind is everything to working this one out.

Another reason is that people simply don't understand the basics. Grumpy and I have been comparing notes and we have figured out far more than people realize. It doesn't mean we are smarter than others, we just put a lot of time and thought into it. We don't share much because what you just saw the dependtard do.

What Meyer was doing at every step of the way appears to be related to his EISER technology and that technology is being deployed on very large scale power generation projects presently. As the frequency and pressure in the injector went up, Meyer needed less and less hydrogen until he needed none.

Whether it will ever make it into our cars is another story. I doubt it, they realize they have to stop burning coal due to the environmental impact but gas leaves a smaller impact.

I just ignore them now.

It is funny to see what they respond with when they think they know what I'm talking about, or when I pose a question.  Posing a question does not imply that I do not have the answer, or even that I need one.  I'll bet they have not seen that video or how complex Meyer's system realy was.

Do not speak of the explosion or its details here, but that is the answer.  Reproducing that and controlling it is the new problem.

Side note: Would be fun to just use a capacitor discharge to drive a piston.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #208 on: February 11, 2009, 07:20:20 PM »
HEY BUZZ,

Check yer mail.  The new and improved VIC is something to behold.  Tha doc is a jewel.

Now compare the cards to the shitload of "cards" on the dash of Meyer's buggy - bingo!

No stinkin' iron wire, no stinkin' bullshit.

See the vacuum pump? bada bing bada boom!

See the high pressure tank?  Cha-Ching!

See the impedence matching crap?  Yeah Baby!

Skip to page 3 - there lays out the entire process.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #209 on: February 11, 2009, 08:03:35 PM »
Grumpy

Cha ching, bada bing, bada boom !!

You sound like your from my neck of the woods

N.Y.C .

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