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Offline Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #480 on: March 04, 2009, 07:59:01 PM »
Quote
Traveling Voltage Wave-Guides
The formation of tubular Traveling Voltage Wave-guide (570a).of Figure (7-12) (WFC memo
426) as to (770) of Figure (8-1) is physically formed when positive electrical voltage surface (661E9)
and negative electrical voltage surface (671E 10) are placed in parallel space relationship to form
voltage surfaces (E91E1O) about an cylindrical axis of rotation having space-gap (35) there between ... and thus, fanning Cylindrical Resonant Cavity (730A) of Figure (7-12) as to (770A) of Figure
(8-1) when space-gap (616) of Figure (720) exposes injected water bath (85) to unipolar puIse-oscillation
of high voltage intensity of opposite polarity (67/66) as to (780) of Figure (8-2) which, in turn, propagates
opposite electrical attraction force (RR' _ 88') of Figure (7-4), as illustrated in (590) of Figure (6-2) as to
(585) of Figure (8-1).


i just want to point out in the very begining of the voltage wave guide section.. it say's unipolar pulse-OSCILLATION.. of high voltage intensity of OPPOSITE POLARITY..   i don't think people understand this.. so heres the definition.

Oscillation

1. The act of oscillating; a swinging or moving backward and forward, like a pendulum; vibration.

2. Fluctuation; variation; change back and forth.


poâ‹…larâ‹…iâ‹…ty
 –noun
1.    Physics.
a.    the property or characteristic that produces unequal physical effects at different points in a body or system, as a magnet or storage battery.
b.    the positive or negative state in which a body reacts to a magnetic, electric, or other field.
2.    the presence or manifestation of two opposite or contrasting principles or tendencies.
3.    Linguistics.
a.    (of words, phrases, or sentences) positive or negative character.
b.    polar opposition.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #480 on: March 04, 2009, 07:59:01 PM »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #481 on: March 04, 2009, 09:46:35 PM »
Oh man,, some people never stop do they

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« Reply #482 on: March 04, 2009, 11:00:24 PM »
Spewing,

so whats your saying is you had stevie use a 2 cycle motor so it was able to keep a smoother flow rate to keep up with fuel gas entering carb? while cylinder ones valve closes the second one is opening? vice versa.. so if you had more cylinder more valves and smoother flow rate right? then with a small one cylinder you would want to decrease its flow rate to where during valve closed time it adds to the actual amount needed for when it opens? that would save alot of wasted gas from running rich right? is that the main point were running way to rich and need to lean it out?


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #482 on: March 04, 2009, 11:00:24 PM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #483 on: March 04, 2009, 11:38:47 PM »
Well boys, I see you’ve now got the place pretty much to yourselves - a real triumph for mindless stupidity… hope you’re all proud of yourselves.

I see too that ‘Hydro and his merry men’ are all now getting on famously without the constant interjection of some intelligent member trying to bring a little sense to the forum.

Yes, this thread had become a total waste of space and a real exercise in stupidity, but as pointed out earlier, it started that way from page one.

Stefan, I’m certainly not condoning Buzz’s actions in displaying personal information, but as you have now banned one of the very few people educated enough to hold an intelligent conversation with, while at the same time letting this bunch of misfits carry on their merry nonsense, I’m rather wondering what the point of the forum is?

Civil though they may now be, even the last few posts of nonsense provide more than enough information to highlight the fact that this forum is being overrun by retards.

We’ve got Outlaw wondering how to make hydroxy burn more efficiently…

… what?  Outlaw really has no idea why that is such a stupid thing to say?  Yet who around here will challenge it?

We’ve got Blobstick talking crap, Ramset talking in riddles, not even capable of putting together a full sentence and Kinesis compliantly falling in line and adding his own unique brand of mindless stupidity.

And of course Hydro continues to be the flag bearer…

…what?   How many ICEs do you know of that make a full revolution just once every 10 seconds!!

And for Christ’s sake, Hydro’s talking about ‘wasted hydroxy’?? 

Any excess hydroxy (and there won’t be any) is still there until the next inlet stroke. It isn’t wasted and doesn’t magically disappear… what is wrong with you people?!!

My car is dual fuel and can run on both gas (not gasoline) as well as petrol, and believe me gas (or petrol) doesn’t get wasted between strokes.

The banning of Buzz is certainly a major triumph for the Muppet Brigade, but in reality a real blow for the science, which will now blatantly follow Alice down the rabbit hole and into Wonderland. 

Around here, real Physics, Chemistry, Maths, Electronics and of course English are like some mysterious black art that should be steered well clear of, just in case it does not conform to the mindless gibberish.

Hydrocars has infected every other similar forum, and I suppose the nonsense on this thread – and many others - will now become rampant and continue unchecked, further deterring the keener minds from joining the forum and possibly contributing something useful.

What I don’t understand is why they feel the need to reduce these forums to the gutter when they have IONIZATIONX.com.

There will clearly come a point whereby you misfits will be the only people on any of the forums, patting each other on the back for every ridiculous post, continually making false claims and generally talking nonsense, while undoubtedly remaining the laughing stock of the community.

Evidently here, science and intellect has to make way for fantasy and stupidity. I suggest that if this is what the world is coming to we have much bigger things to worry about than the forthcoming fuel crisis!


You are either crazy or you ARE TheBuzz ...

This is TheBuzz trying to understand figure 6-1 , this expert researcher thought tought the flux lines were ''secret toroids'' ... Lol can you believe this stuff , can you fkin believe this goverment confusion artist . How stupid can stupid get ?

He was here for one thing alone , to confuse the reader . He doesnt need to win the argument , he just spams with new bullshit all the time .

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6702.310

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #484 on: March 05, 2009, 12:08:42 AM »
yeah i sent that quote to hartmann so maybe he will see what were talking about. with the negativity being directed towards fellow experimenters.. maybe we can get it where the nonsense is banned off the thread in the near future.. so all i can suggest farrahday whoever you are.. we dont find it propper to down peoples ideas as if there incorrect and false especially when there not wrong, the info may not pertain the way we perceive it to..
the buzz was the only exception for us to use negative force to try to repel his negativity out of here.. and if you want to keep up your negative non usefull input then i beleive mr hartmann will agree to get rid of you... there are no jokes on this site.. its for serious discussion.. possibly debating but not debating with negative throw backs like  the use of the words stupid, dependtards and so on. they will not be tolerated anymore. you wanna joke around and talk trash go find you a fighting blog to do it on.. go call them idiots and ramp and rage all you want.. this is not a game here, its the future.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #484 on: March 05, 2009, 12:08:42 AM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #485 on: March 05, 2009, 01:19:15 AM »
Meyer's also said you could mix with ambient air to change the burn rate so you need to figure out the mix and then meter your gas to get the correct flow rate.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #486 on: March 05, 2009, 01:49:41 AM »
Outlaw
Dave @all

Here is an interesting analogy by H2 0 power [an absolute saint[added by Chet]


Has anyone ever wondered about Stanley Meyer's statement of using any water source for use as fuel? Most of us have an understanding about how the Water Fuel Capacitor(WFC) works, so we know if you put salt water in it the amp use goes up. We know that the water needs to be fairly consistent and the purer the better or the resonance will be swinging all over the place. Changing temperatures also have this effect on WFC's. So how did Meyer solve this problem? How could he now make this claim of using any water as a fuel source? He did so by getting rid of the WFC, and let the energy of the primed air gases break the water down for him.

It takes 1836 kJ/mol to break the bonds of water under normal conditions this number was discovered by Dr. Faraday many years ago. Now if you take into account what the Gas Processor is doing is striping electrons from the air making them have a much higher energy content then the answer of where this energy comes from to break the water down is in the air itself.

Looking at the reactions to break and form the water molecule:
4 H-O 459 kJ/mol bonds are broken taking 1836 kJ/mol to do so.
2 H-H 436 kJ/mol bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 498 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 1370 kJ/mol.
This is why all scientist say it takes more energy to break the bonds of water than you get from combining them, for the net sum of the reaction is negative, 1370-1836 = -466 kJ/mol.

Lets us look at just oxygen, since it is the important part of the reaction, here are the energy levels of oxygen:
1st 1313.9 kJ/mol
2nd 3388.3 kJ/mol
3rd 5300.5 kJ/mol
4th 7469.2 kJ/mol                O2 an accelerator [as per user Buzz] [Chet added this phrase]
5th 10909.5 kJ/mol
6th 13326.5 kJ/mol
7th 71330.0 kJ/mol
8th 84078.0 kJ/mol

Now the 1st level doesn't have enough energy to get any useful energy yield out of it this way so you must get the oxygen at minimum to it's 2nd level of ionization.

The new reaction to form the water molecule 1st energy level:
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 1313.9 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 2185.9 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction now is positive 2185.9-1836 = +349.9 kJ/mol, so now we are getting more energy out than in. But this reaction is still less than the 495 kJ/mol of gasoline. So what do we do? Strip more electrons.

2nd energy level:
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 3388.3 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 4260.3 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction now is 4260.3-1836 = +2424.3 kJ/mol, now that is 4.9 times as much energy as the reaction for gasolines 495 kJ/mol.
Since Meyer says he used the 4th energy level or lower lets look at that reaction.
The new reaction to form the water molecule at the 4th energy level:
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 7469.2 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 8341.2 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction now is 8341.2-1836 = +6505.2 kJ/mol

It is easy to see how Meyer got his dune buggy to run on only an hho production rate of 7L/min now is it not? Now you can see the Oxygen has enough energy to break down the water molecule and re-react with it yeilding these high numbers. The electron affinity is what is taking place here, I belive, for the unstable Oxygen atoms wants the Hydrogen atoms more than the normal Oxygen atom holding the water molecule together does.
Now we can instigate a fight, for one of the class mates wants what the other has, all we have too do is spark them off



Now let us take another look at what Stanley Meyer has to say about this in his patent;

Thermal Explosive Energy
Exposing the expelling "laser-primed" and "electrically charged" combustible gas ions (exiting from
Gas Resonant Cavity) to a thermal-spark or heat-zone causes thermal gas-ignition, releasing thermal
explosive energy (gmt) beyond the Gas-Flame Stage, as illustrated in Figure (1-19) as to (1-18). { What this is saying is you can use a spark plug or high compression to set off the reaction.}
Thermal Atomic interaction (gmt) is caused when the combustible gas ions (from water) fail to
unite or form a Covalent Link-up or Covalent Bond between the water molecule atoms. as
illustrated in Figure (1-19). The oxygen atom having less than four covalent electrons (Electron
Extraction Process) is unable to reach "Stable-State" (six to eight covalent electrons required) when
the two hydrogen atoms seeks to form the water molecule during thermal gas ignition. { This is saying that Meyer stripped the oxygen atom to its' 4th ionization energy level of 7469.2 kJ/mol or less than the 4th energy level. Why because the oxygen atom has eight electrons in its' outer orbit, so my only 2nd needed level might not be enough.}
The absorbed Laser energy (Va. Vb and V c) weakens the "Electrical Bond" between the orbital
electrons and the nucleus of the atoms; while, at the same time, electrical attraction-force (qq'),
being stronger than "Normal" due to the lack of covalent electrons. "Locks Onto" and "Keeps" the
hydrogen electrons. These “abnormal” or “unstable” conditions cause the combustible gas ions to
over compensate and breakdown into thermal explosive energy (gmt). { What this part is saying is that these primed oxygen atoms have enough energy to break the water down and re-react with it, with more energy yield than just the hydrogen/oxygen reaction in air alone. Plus tells that the photonic energy is also stripping electrons from the oxygen atom.} This Atomic Thermal Interaction between highly energized combustible gas ions is hereinafter called "The Hydrogen Fracturing Process."
By simply attenuating or varying voltage amplitude in direct relationship to voltage pulse-rate
determines Atomic Power-Yield under controlled state. { This part is telling us that by simply raising/lowering the voltage we can control the power output of the reaction, and he went and grouped terms again.}

Also in the patent:
The Hydrogen Fracturing Process dissociates the water molecule
by way of voltage stimulation, ionizes the combustible gases by
electron ejection and, then, prevents the formation of the water
molecule during thermal gas ignition ... releasing thermal
explosive energy beyond "normal" gas burning levels under
control state ... and the atomic energy process is environmentally
safe.

Abstract of WO9222679
An injector system comprising an improved
method and apparatus useful in the production of
a hydrogen containing fuel gas from water in a
process in which the dielectric property of water
and/or a mixture of water and other components
determines a resonate condition that produces a
breakdown of the atomic bonding of atoms in the
water molecule. The injector delivers a mixture of
water mist(1), ionized gases(2), and non-
combustible gas(3) to a zone or locus(5) within
which the breakdown process leading to the
release of elemental hydrogen from the water
molecules occurs. {This is giving us the formula needed to break down water into its elemental forms hydrogen and oxygen with just the Gas Processor and a spark or high heat from a high compression type engine16:1 or higher. The need of the firestorm type spark plug is a must so that it makes sure the reaction occurs, that would be considered the locus. That formula is: water mist, ionized gases, noncombustible gas, and spark or heat ignition.}

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #486 on: March 05, 2009, 01:49:41 AM »
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« Reply #487 on: March 05, 2009, 02:04:09 AM »
Makes allot of sense, did Meyer get completely away from the wfc or did he use it with the injector, if used in conjunction with the injector it wouldnt take much hydroxy at all.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #488 on: March 05, 2009, 02:09:34 AM »
DAVE

THE EVOLUTION HAD NO WFC

Dave won't leave you hangin  be back with a link

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #488 on: March 05, 2009, 02:09:34 AM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #489 on: March 05, 2009, 02:18:14 AM »
H2opower always was a great tester , not !!!!!
« Last Edit: March 05, 2009, 04:08:38 AM by dankie »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #490 on: March 05, 2009, 02:21:27 AM »
Heres What H20 power does when he';s not copying and pasting

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained-7.html

Who would ban that????

Chet

from 2007

PS would love to see one of Dankies builds [seeing how you say you banned a guy like H20power]

You MUST have some amazing builds!!

They MUST be better than what he is posting!!

ME DON"T EVEN ASK, NOTHING NO BUILDS But I"M NOT THROWING STONES!!!

And I"M NOT HIDING IN A MEMBERS ONLY FORUM

OPEN SOURCE OR STUFF IT!!!

STILL HERE STILL LEARNING!!

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #490 on: March 05, 2009, 02:21:27 AM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #491 on: March 05, 2009, 02:36:45 AM »
Heres What H20 power does when he';s not copying and pasting

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained-7.html

Who would ban that????

Chet

from 2007

He got banned because he pissed Stevie about something , he got a 2 week ban but decided to never return  , it is a good thing for him because his ego was getting hurt too much by me ...

His coil design is wrong and so is his winding , wrong wire also .


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #492 on: March 05, 2009, 02:55:27 AM »
DANKIE

TWO YEARS AGO

This guy was making bobbins ,

 The same ones you posted LAST week ,like they were the second coming?

The wire I don't know?

Chet

PS but I am quite sure HE DOES

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #493 on: March 05, 2009, 02:55:36 AM »
sdggsg

« Last Edit: March 05, 2009, 04:07:50 AM by dankie »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #494 on: March 05, 2009, 03:12:20 AM »
DESPISE {I meen DANKIE

WHERE IS THE LOVE????

SHOW WHAT YOU HAVE THATS A 1000 TIMES BETTER!!!

I WILL KISS YOUR ASS IN MACY'S WINDOW AND CARRY YOU AROUND ON MY SHOULDERS

Chet

OPEN SOURCE OR STUFF IT

 

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