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Author Topic: HydroMeyers Vic  (Read 200334 times)

Offline Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #285 on: February 26, 2009, 01:14:02 AM »
thank you for pointing out my typo.. i meant protons not neutrons..  a 8th grade student could point that mistake out..  i laugh at you for finding only one thing out of all my thead that was wrong...  your just showing your tru colors by trying to point out such things and use such a stupid little mistake to discredit it.. is that all you got buzz? you remind me of  J.P on grandmas boy lol


  adios terd nuggets    lol

heres somthin interesting enjoy the show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcXxKiGyA3g

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #285 on: February 26, 2009, 01:14:02 AM »

Offline Farrah Day

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #286 on: February 26, 2009, 10:29:57 AM »
It's no wonder that these forums are never given any real credibility, and quite obvious why they are not frequented by intellectuals or anyone of learning.

The problem we have here is that the general level of ignorance and stupidity is so high that if someone posts some utter nonsense, then 99% of the people - being ignorant or stupid themselves - simply accept it without question.

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thank you for pointing out my typo.. i meant protons not neutrons..  a 8th grade student could point that mistake out..  i laugh at you for finding only one thing out of all my thead that was wrong..

It's quite irrelevant what you meant, you stated neutrons = misinfo. Why didn't you correct yourself?

An 8th grade student might well have picked up on this, but I doubt many of the folks around here are up to that level - and you missed it yourself, so what is that saying?

And, of course it's not the only incorrect info you posted, but I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you things you don't have the brains to comprehend.


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #287 on: February 26, 2009, 09:02:16 PM »
It's no wonder that these forums are never given any real credibility, and quite obvious why they are not frequented by intellectuals or anyone of learning.

 I agree, that statment certainly describes why you are here.

The problem we have here is that the general level of ignorance and stupidity is so high that if someone posts some utter nonsense, then 99% of the people - being ignorant or stupid themselves - simply accept it without question.

You should draw a large following with this, without question.

It's quite irrelevant what you meant, you stated neutrons = misinfo. Why didn't you correct yourself?

How dare someone make a mistake!

IAn 8th grade student might well have picked up on this, but I doubt many of the folks around here are up to that level - and you missed it yourself, so what is that saying?

I can tell you are at least a couple of years past the 8th grade; it's you maturity that has been stunted.

And, of course it's not the only incorrect info you posted, but I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you things you don't have the brains to comprehend.

Ditto!!!

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #287 on: February 26, 2009, 09:02:16 PM »
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Offline kinesisfilms

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #288 on: February 26, 2009, 09:13:17 PM »
wow if he couldn't prove it anymore than he already has......FARRAHDAY=THEBUZZ......wow........

indeed buzz or should i say farrahday

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #289 on: February 26, 2009, 09:14:36 PM »
well buzz light year.. you know that you cant pick anything out but that one type o .. i have brought alot of info to this thread needed  to understand stans vic.. your problem is you dont have the darnndest clue what ur talking about.. except for english and grammer so u say.... your a liar and a waste of time. i have bigger and better things to achive then to babble on with ur ignorant being..  and i figured out the last piece to the puzzle for the rotary vic.. i will not post it here because your miss leading mind don't deserve it.. this will be my last post on this thread.. for all of you mature people that have read my non misleading info the best of luck.. as for buzz light year.. its been fun showing your true colors to fellow viewers.. your the joke of the wfc community..  good luck J.P lol


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« Reply #289 on: February 26, 2009, 09:14:36 PM »
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Offline Farrah Day

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #290 on: February 26, 2009, 11:36:28 PM »
Well, that's more like it, finally a positive note:

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this will be my last post on this thread..

Mr Outlaw person, I'm sure you will be sorely missed by Johnblobstick and all the other mentally challenged individuals that find your input so fascinating. Me... well I guess I'll now have to find somebody else to give me a good laugh! But I tell you, you're going to be hard to replace  ;)

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #291 on: February 27, 2009, 01:34:12 AM »
ITS NICE TO LAUGH?

At others ??

The world is turning into a shithole

Lets laugh at each other

That makes sence

Lets laugh!

Fellows is play time over yet?'fun and games?

Is this what you want to leave to your kids and grandkids?

Yeah, the world was turning to shit and they just laughed at each other

It was Amusing????????????????????????????????[sorta makes me feel like Joe Peshi]
O

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« Reply #291 on: February 27, 2009, 01:34:12 AM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #292 on: February 27, 2009, 03:35:26 AM »
SOO.....

Is it a coward thing?

A stupid thing?

An everyman for himself thing?

Let the ashes fall where they will thing?

Or can we play on to whomsoever much is given much is required???

LETS TRY THAT ONE SHALL WE

Chet


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #293 on: February 27, 2009, 05:08:21 AM »
CHET take some riddlin....you wait for the scraps to fall off your masters table (thebuzz)....what a pathetic sidekick.

if you only knew the progress we are making at the retrofit system.

it seems the people that really care about this are HANDS ON.

we are the ones who come back to keep this topic over and over again.....since we are passionate we hate to see people like this control others.....we actually care.....and that is why we won't let this just go.

CHET you need to realize that we are not just arguing and yelling profanities to each other......while that may happen we go back to our corners and continue working......

when we get around to finishing this and it is released you'll learn to pick yourself up off the floor.

get off your knees CHET and stop doing THEBUZZ his dandy favors.

speak for yourself and do something. Follower.

no one likes the peanut gallery.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #293 on: February 27, 2009, 05:08:21 AM »
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Offline kinesisfilms

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« Reply #295 on: February 28, 2009, 03:40:47 AM »
How do I know this? I replicated the transformer in fig 6-1. It is sort of like cut and paste, but you have to actually fabricate something and test it out in reality.

wait you said you replicated figure 6-1???.....here is your statements saying how it doesn't make sense to you and that you think the drawing lines are toroids!!!! pfftt hahahahah FAIL.
This does not making sense to me. Here is a photo of VIC 6.1 I don't see that in this image. What are those toroid looking things in the drawing? Maybe that is a toroid coil form and the photo is of an e-core.

here is a screen shot so buzz doesn't try to cover his tracks.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/BUZZFAIL2.jpg)

haha yeah you definately replicated it.....

LET ME ASK YOU THIS BUZZ IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE VIC FIGURE 6-1 TELL ME IT'S INDUCTANCE......

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #295 on: February 28, 2009, 03:40:47 AM »
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« Reply #296 on: February 28, 2009, 08:46:09 AM »
It doubles the pulse. You thought your discovery of a bridge was the "big secret" but were too stupid to read Meyer's notes and pay special attention to his mention of a pulse forming network.

hahaha WOW.

you are a fucking loser.

i never said that it (what you call "the secret") was a fucking shitty diode arrangment......

please quote me....

BECUASE I LOVE TO QUOTE YOU.


They have more than a deleted false claim of a Meyer replication like you Kinesisfilms.


Let's see your "I am probably the only person to have actually replicated Meyer" replication asshole so you can "settle this once and for all." - How pathetic.

HAHA again I LOVE YOU!.....PLEEEEEEASSSSSSEEEE SHOW ME EXACTLY WHAT I DELETEDDDDDD.....

i caught you deleting your posts to cover your tracks.......i never once delete my posts EVER.

show me the area that is deleted PLEASE.....i WOULD LOVE YOU TO.

second off.....HA again.....i love your mentality.....is that how i feel?? ACTUALLY ANYONE THAT MIGHT EVEN SOMEWHAT KNOW ME KNOWWWWS

I DO NOT AT ALL BELIEVE THAT.

YOU ARE PATHETIC.

your attitude and mental processing are PATHETIC.

you are an arrogant self indulging fool.

god forbid someone puts a mirror infront of you.

you might fall in love with your incredible WINDING SKILLS.

your transformer doesn't prove anything. AT ALL.

it just shows you know how to wind copper....and from the looks of it your coil most likely doesn't work along with the fact that IT IS NOT FIGURE 6-1....you complete screw up....you didn't even replicate one damn drawing in the tech brief at all!!! SEARCH THE TECH BRIEF IDIOT.....YOU DIDN'T EVEN DO IT CORRECTLY....so yeah nice try loser.

I HOPE YOUR CORE MATERIAL ACTUALLY WORKS. AHAHAHAHA.

i can't wait......

becuase regardless......

you only care about you and anyone else you can control.

FARRAHDAY/THEBUZZ.

so far it seems you have won the heart over of one person.....chet......hahahahaahahha.

your plan is working. not.


SO ONCE AGAIN IF YOU REALLY ARE SUCH A BIGBADSMARTINTELLIGENT PERSON ANSWER MY SIMPLE LITTLE DEPENTARD QUESTION.....

what is the inductance of meyers bifilar coil?
« Last Edit: February 28, 2009, 09:17:28 AM by kinesisfilms »

Offline Outlawstc

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #297 on: February 28, 2009, 09:43:23 AM »
well i had to check out this thread out of curiosity.. and what do i find the buzz.. so where did farrah day go? oh he must be on vacation right now.. the buzz personality is back... did you forget to take your anti depression pill this morning? or maybe your Schizophrenia medication ..  dont worry buzz we know all about this tech and how it works.. we just get good laughs out of you dumb ass .. i mean you used the word depentard like its going out of style your ratty additude is funny.. it makes me remember past experiences with people like you.. and how i cheese them up.. see buzz your a schizo dependtard. you depend on trying to make people feel down and worthless. your games dont work for me..
like i said the difference between me and you is your a june june..(bitch) while im a alpha male that will break ya neck.. you ever here that song only bitches talk shit.. theres alot of meaning to that.. it means most likey the quiet one that doesnt talk shit is somthin called real.. and has a different reality of life which is not to give shit nor put up with shit.. see a bullshittin bitch can talk shit all day and also have shit talked about him in a verbal dispute with no result..  .. you just help remind me of the social ignorant Conceited,. arrogant, bombastic, bumptious,cocky, egotistical , narcissistic, opinionated, overweening, pompous, prideful fags that are on this world.. its like a daily reality check.. i appreciate it..


outlawstc ;)

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #298 on: February 28, 2009, 10:28:47 AM »
Just in case anyone looking in thinks that I’ve gone out of my way to create havoc here, then I would ask you to look at the very start of this thread.

On page one, we have Hydrocars (using his much more apt alias, Spewing) saying he has discovered ionisation – but everyone else is taking credit for it…What!?

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When i was told ionization was nothing new, that it was on many other sites before i published, it made me angry because i as well as many others know differently.

We also have Dankie Doodle Dandy saying that folk will have to go ‘throught him’ (I assume he meant, ‘through him’, if they wanted a working VIC.

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Everybody here will have to go throught me before pursuing their dreams of making a working VIC .

So you see the utter nonsense has been here from day one!

Add to this the above illiterate ramblings and outright profanities of the mentally challenged and you can see that the thread is simply maintaining the momentum it started with. Does make you wonder how this thread ever achieved so many views!

I’ve watched the Meyer’s videos, and it’s quite clear that he himself does not fully understand what he is talking about. Indeed anyone with a background in science will tell you that most of what he says is gobbledegook.  And I’m not saying that merely to wind up ardent Meyer fans – it is simply fact.  I really wish that Meyer made more sense in his videos, as his explanations are extremely nonsensical and flawed to say the least.

Using the dielectric constant of water in any formulas is a waste of time, as water is quoted by Meyer and others as having a permittivity in the region of 74 – 78. These are levels of purity only achievable to any degree in the laboratory. Pure water with a relative permittivity of 80, is as good an insulator as you can get, and would require no current limiting to prevent current flowing through it.

However, Meyer states on numerous occasions that ‘any’ water can be used in his WFC, pretty well negating the idea of him using pure water. And we all know that tap water conducts very easily, so we can forget about using the dielectric constant of pure water in any equations.

Meyer will show you that water is pulled apart by voltage. If this is so, why isn’t one of the electrodes simply coated in an insulator to prevent current flow? This would make far more sense than trying to develop complicated circuitry to prevent current flowing through a conductive liquid. This would also mean that all the high voltage was dropped where it is wanted - across the WFC.

Meyer also states that the water molecule is ripped apart by having the electrons pulled off and leaving ions of oxygen and hydrogen.  None of this makes sense as in this state we still do not achieve H2 and O2 gas.

In a standard electrolyser, the water molecule dissociates into OH- and H+ when it ionises. Assuming that breaking this bond requires the least energy, then you would expect water to also break down this way in Meyers WFC.  Even so, the H+ ion in a standard electrolyser is no good for anything until it picks up an electron from somewhere and then joins with another hydrogen atom to be evolved as H2.

You have to ask the question, what was Meyers trying to achieve with his VIC – after all a VIC is just a fancy, made up name for a high voltage transformer. A car ignition coil will provide between 20 – 40kV and is on the shelf, ready made, ready to go. 

I see talk of resistive wire and all sorts of coils to restrict current flow, but all this seems to be overcomplicating the issue.  Adding high impedance coils and resistive wire will only serve to have high voltages drop across them rather than where you want it, across the cell.

As stated, simply insulating one electrode would best achieve a high voltage right across the plates of the cell – that is, if Meyer was actually pulling the water molecule apart as he stated. 

Now if indeed high voltage does cause the water to ionise into OH- and H+, we need a way to use these products, which is where the problems start. The hydrogen ion requires a source of electrons in order to become an atom, and the hydroxyl ion needs somewhere to dump an electron in order to free the oxygen.  If we have insulated or restricted current flow to the cell, then we have a stalemate – and no gas.

A background education in science and a little research would make what I’ve just stated clearly evident.

The most interesting thing I’ve seen recently, and something that might have some real bearing on what Meyer was actually doing (assuming he was genuine), is the John Kanzius – burning saltwater discovery.  Here we have a truly interesting phenomenon that has been highly publicised and looks to all intents and purposes to be genuine.

The Kanzius discovery also poses similar questions to Meyer’s WFC, in that it is not immediately obvious as to the electrochemical reactions taking part – especially given that there are no electrodes. 

Understanding the Kanzius discovery will likely shed a lot of light on the workings of Meyer’s WFC.

People - and rather worryingly some scientists – are saying that Kanzius is simply breaking down water into oxygen and hydrogen, that is then burning off – another form of standard electrolysis, and no big deal.  Easy to say, but far too simple and in truth a statement that is not worthy of anything other than laymen.

Clearly some unheard of and seemingly unknown electrochemistry is at work here. Furthermore, Kanzius is using NaCl as an electrolyte, but apparently not getting any chlorine gas, which would be the case in standard electrolysis.  All very intriguing.


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #299 on: February 28, 2009, 12:49:22 PM »
well buzz we know theres only 4 forces that effect a atom

All energy in our physical universe (The third dimension) comes from a singular source ... the atom.
There are four basic forces that make up and effect the atomic structure: electrical force, electromagnetic force,
weak and strong nuclear forces, and gravity.

he was building that device for a cancer cure.. by resonating gold particles with radio in the body causing them to heat up.
so i would say maybe kinetic and electromagnetic...

you know buzz you act like your so smart but yet you lack one aspect of most importance. so you cant be that smart. just a fool

 

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