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Crush

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #105 on: February 07, 2009, 11:37:07 PM »
Oh my .... Dankie you`ve been fighting again I see . Not very nice Dankie ... Learn to work together you guys , why do you keep feeding him and keep arguing with him  , dont you see Dankie likes to fight  ?

Dont give Dankie the meat he needs to continue fighting , just ignore him

rgds

ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #106 on: February 08, 2009, 12:42:28 AM »
Sorry Kinesis

               
« Last Edit: February 08, 2009, 03:00:28 AM by ramset »

kinesisfilms

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #107 on: February 08, 2009, 02:30:44 AM »
someone please delete or modify this thread

it's completely uselss due to these responses.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #108 on: February 08, 2009, 03:43:31 AM »
dankie were you hired to come here and start trouble and get things off topic, is that your agenda if not it sure seems that way.
why cant you leave these guys alone causing all this trouble if you dont like what their saying leave.
If it come to reading your post or theirs I'll read theirs anyday you never have anything constructive to say only destructive.

Grumpy

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #109 on: February 08, 2009, 05:42:06 AM »
someone please delete or modify this thread

it's completely uselss due to these responses.

We are done here.  You can have this thread back now and ask Stephan to delete the last few pages if you wish.

Crush

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #110 on: February 08, 2009, 05:48:09 AM »
dankie were you hired to come here and start trouble and get things off topic, is that your agenda if not it sure seems that way.
why cant you leave these guys alone causing all this trouble if you dont like what their saying leave.
If it come to reading your post or theirs I'll read theirs anyday you never have anything constructive to say only destructive.

Well I prefer Dankie`s posts over these fakes ...

Dankie posts alot on stuff on ionization , he has a track record of being right on alot of things .

rgds

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #111 on: February 08, 2009, 04:09:42 PM »
delete
 



« Last Edit: February 08, 2009, 08:01:01 PM by ramset »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #112 on: February 08, 2009, 05:49:55 PM »
delete
« Last Edit: February 08, 2009, 08:02:22 PM by ramset »

dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #113 on: February 08, 2009, 07:19:21 PM »
WOW waterboy , you really outdone yourself this time ...  Total improvistion as asual ... You are the ``eminem`` of overunity . Whay you hate my wire so much ?

Who knows better , Stan Meyers or waterboy aka ``DOOFY VACUUM
GILMORE``  ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEXnsPbzSg

Heres a few things you should learn about magnetic properties. The things you said about copper is total 100% made up BS  again ...

http://www.cookfasteners.ca/faqs_3.php

http://www.cartech.com/techarticles.aspx?id=1562

ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2009, 07:54:51 PM »
Dankie
A quote about vacuum from user SPARKS

    Water vapor traveling into the less dense stratosphere finds itself in a field of ultraviolet light emitted by the Sun.  This causes the water vapor to become ionized sufficiently to from hydrogen ions and ozone.  The hydrogen ions then migrate along magnetic field lines and collect at the north pole.  The denser ozone does not have the energy to migrate and forms the ozone layer.  Could we duplicate this process on the surface whereby we utilize ultraviolet light to produce hydrogen and ozone fuels.  This would require a vacuum chamber exposed to ultraviolet light and an imposed magnetic field.  Polarization of the light so as to reduce the heating effect of the lower frequency wavelengths
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 Mother Nature is ALWAYS right
    Chet

 

ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #115 on: February 08, 2009, 08:17:33 PM »
Gentlemen

Since he seems very pissed that I did not share this

This is a private PM to myself from user BUZZ
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he VIC is the ground side of the circuit. The water mixed with ionized radicals is the positive side of the circuit. Da!

The highest voltage mosfet I own is around 900 volts. Without all that stainless RESISTIVE wire between the charged water and the mosfet you will smoke the mosfets.

The air/gas processor is in the back end of the injector in later model. Under the plastic cover by the spark plug wire is a filter and needle valve where the air goes in through an aspirator, gets radicalized by the gas gun (ozone), goes down through the center insulated tube / electrode, enters the tiny little resonant cavities and mixes with the water, hits the spray grills and "FRACTURES" hits gets further compressed in the taper resonant cavity where it hits the two ground electrodes and explodes.

 The two electrodes are connected to the vic coil which is made of stainless so they don't donate electrons back to the water (LIMIT CURRENT FLOW) the SS coil does resonate and then gets switched to ground through the mosfets. The chokes limit current going to the mosfets.

The connector that controls the mosfets is on the side (Three contacts) The center contact is positive which drives the LED lasers in the gas gun and this process all happens in a fraction of a second.

Water going to the injector is at 120PSI.

That is how it fucking works. I built it a year ago with the plasma electrolysis which has been on my site ever since. Only one person to my knowledge ever had the fucking brains to put the plasma tube before the cell to produce those radical (O3 - O4) atoms  - me. It is called bond cleaving in general .

Oh yeah, if you want to draw energy from the circuit, connect it to that outer bifilar coil. I am pretty sure that connected to the resonant cavity boxes on the side which should contain a cap and a diode which is charged opposite the water so the water and gas exchange electrons. (bond cleaving)
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    Chet


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #116 on: February 08, 2009, 08:18:13 PM »
Seems far-fetched ...

Thats just sparks 2 day old half-baked idea , plz dont try to confuse the reader ramset ... Sparks is just an ordinary guy , even tho he has 2000 posts he is no Stanley Meyers , he probably read that off some other guy or from a site somewhere . When Sparks gets a bunch of international patents explaining his technique maybe I`ll start working on that ...

Evidence and common sense is always right

ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2009, 08:30:19 PM »
Dankie look up [before your last post]

kinesisfilms

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #118 on: February 08, 2009, 08:41:16 PM »
it can be done with copper....too a certain voltage level.....after that the amount of copper needed gets a bit ridiculous.....remember in stans patents of his earlier vic coil it was constructed with copper.

so to achieve the injector/ionization method voltages of 40kv must be obtained which can be done with wire consisting of a higher resistance but must still have an inductance factor.


Now lets look at his earlier achievements...splitting water with high voltage low amperage.
ELECTRICAL POLARIZATION PROCESS.

notice how the pulses are starting from a ground and building up to around 1kv (as stated in patent)
this means that the top pulse reaches let's say 1kv and each pulse leading up to that is a pulse of 200 volts, which all stack on top of each other hence step charging....COMMON KNOWLEDGE.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/electricalpolarization.jpg
yes you can achieve voltages of 3,000 volts with copper wire on a small core easily.....this will separate the water.

but to ionize much higher voltages are needed upwards maxing around 40kv.
so let's look at his stainless steel wire coil.
FIRST OFF notice the very first pulse already achieves electrical polarization process woo that means we are now working with pulses of 1kv or higher.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/HIGHPULSES.jpg
and as you can see the higher voltages are there to strip electrons and ignite unstable particles with "pressure."

NOW LETS SEE WHY HYDROCARZ VIDEO IS NOT GETTING THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF VOLTAGE WORK OUT OF HIS INPUT VOLTAGE.

he is simply applying it incorrectly.....yes he has high voltage (he might have low amperage BUT he is NOT showing us which is suspicious in content and his argument is that well no spark is just across the plates so therefore it must be low amperage BUT THERE ARE SO MANY suspicious things going on in that video that one has to always question)...so let's say he has high voltage and low amperage LETS JUST SAY THAT FOR TEACHING PURPOSES.

straight from a book:
he is applying it incorrectly anyways......let's look at electrical potential energy laws....when an electrostatic force acts between two or more charged particles within a system of particles, we can assign an electric potential energy U to the system.  If the system changes its configuration from an initial state i to a different final state f, the electrostatic force does work W on particles, we then know that the resulting change DELTA U = U final- U initial = -W........thus stan applied this from both sides of the water molecules via electrodes ALLOWING VOLTAGE TO PERFORM WORK IN A STEP CHARGING MANNER....INSTEAD OF A CONSTANT PRESSURE FIELD MANNER.

HONESLTY PICK UP A BOOK AN QUIT BICKERING

i feel like i am the only one who has read the ENTIRE tech brief MULTIPLE times....i always have to show pictures in order to stimulate interest.


« Last Edit: February 08, 2009, 09:05:54 PM by kinesisfilms »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2009, 08:47:43 PM »
This this thread is like a sado-masochistic free-for-all.