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Author Topic: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible  (Read 55167 times)

Offline Yucca

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #60 on: January 31, 2009, 09:51:59 PM »
I see the term overunity as a nice tag for alternative free energy schemes. And it holds true to a certain extent when the the energy comes from a source unknown or discredited by the mainstream books. Because when the system is drawn on paper and all of it´s accepted system boundaries are taken into consideration then it will indeed appear to be OU.

Of course full analysis and understanding of any OU phenomena will reveal the source of the energy.
But until the actual energy source and transfer mechanism are understood, which could take many years after the phenomena  is discovered, OU seems a reasonable term to me.

So in summary, I see OU as a similar label to UFO. It´s like saying this thing provides power but nobody is really sure where it´s coming from, it seems to be doing something magical.

Griggs hydrosonic pump is one device I would call OU.

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #60 on: January 31, 2009, 09:51:59 PM »

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #61 on: January 31, 2009, 09:59:10 PM »
THE EARTH IS FLAT. Period.
huhhh. damn. I have set my time machine to the wrong century.
In a hundred years, humankind will (re)name OverUnity as "COMMON PHYSICS".
こんにちは、真実はである全くフィクションより奇妙…

Edit, well my Japanese didn't work out as I would have liked...

What it should read is:  Hello, Truth is stranger than fiction...

Oh, Well!

Offline z.monkey

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #62 on: January 31, 2009, 10:07:19 PM »
Yeah, and how does the seed grow into a plant? Through SUNLIGHT (a source of energy) and WATER (another source of energy).. NO OVERUNITY!!!
Well, I am glad that you have appointed yourself the grand overdenyer of OU, your highness...

Stephan, OUers, looks like Newsflash has just burst the bubble for everyone...

Might as well rip down overunity.com, and call all our efforts pointless and futile...

Might as well trash all our dreams and aspirations, because Newsflash has it ALL figured out...

Looks like I might as well quit science and go get a job at the Clown Burger Restaurant...

Thanks Newsflash! I don't know what I would have done without your Revelations...

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #62 on: January 31, 2009, 10:07:19 PM »
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Offline tinu

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #63 on: January 31, 2009, 10:10:59 PM »
@ The Observer,

Come on now, observer. I’ve seen a much better understanding on your side in many previous posts. But the guitar example is childish and wrong.
A guitar body is called an "amplifier" for obvious historical and apparent reasons: when employed, sound hears much louder. But it is mere a mechanic-acoustic converter (pretty much like the membrane of any speaker). The bare sting vibrates but due to its shape is not appropriate for passing its energy into the air at a high enough rate hence the sound is not very loud. The body of the guitar (as well as of other musical string instruments) does exactly that: converts the mechanical energy of the string into acoustical energy. If your goal when playing guitar is to heat the room, it doesn’t matter if you use the resonating body or not. ;) Nonetheless, energy is the same with or without it. No OU.

Cheers,
Tinu

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2009, 10:18:09 PM »
こんにちは、真実はである全くフィクションより奇妙…

Edit, well my Japanese didn't work out as I would have liked...

What it should read is:  Hello, Truth is stranger than fiction...

Oh, Well!

YEAH *LOL*

We both agree.

Quote
Thanks Newsflash! I don't know what I would have done without your Revelations...

So lets call it "Conversation of Energy" instead of "Conservation of Energy"

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2009, 10:18:09 PM »
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Offline z.monkey

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2009, 11:01:08 PM »
creation of energy

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2009, 11:01:43 PM »
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Offline Captain Kirk

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #67 on: January 31, 2009, 11:09:13 PM »
The Matter/Antimatter reaction in the Dilithium chamber of my ship produces more energy than is supplied to the reaction chamber...

Offline The Observer

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #68 on: January 31, 2009, 11:37:24 PM »
Tinu,

You said...

         "A guitar body is called an "amplifier" for obvious historical and apparent reasons: when employed, sound hears much louder. "

"Sound hears much louder"?  I hope English is not your native tongue.

I challenge your assessment of the guitar example as childish and wrong.

Since you mentioned child... I will have to bring up another simple example of resonance.

                                Are you familiar with tuning forks?

Question 1... 1 fork a has a natural frequency of 440 H.z      the second a natural frequency of  400 Hz.
 
                           I ring the 440 Hz fork... does the 400 fork ring?   Please answer this because I want to know if you have a clue.

Question 2... 1 fork has a natural frequency of 440 HZ    the second has a natural frequency of 440 Hz

                           I ring the 1st 440 Hz fork... does the second 440 Hz ring?   Please answer this.

Question 3... Provided you got Question 1 and 2 right.

                           How does energy transfer from 1 fork to the other and why does the second fork ring in only 1 instance?

                                                I understand what you think.
                                                You think the end of the string pulls on the body of the guitar causing it to vibrate.
                                                Am I right?

What you don't understand is the nature of waves and nodes.
 The string vibrates most at it's antinode.(the middle of the string) and not at all at it's 2 nodes (the ends of the string)

The energy is passed into the body of the guitar through the air as a wave or vibration.
Then the body of the guitar stores the air vibrations just like the swing I mentioned earlier.
Finally the body of the guitar vibrates commensurate with the amplitude of the antinode of the wave stored in the guitar.

Hope this helps.
I got more if you need it.

No matter how you think it works...
There is now way around the fact that to produce a louder sound (or waves of higher amplitude)... you need more energy.
It is the simplest physics there is.

To be clear once again.

The Acoustic Box of an Acoustic Guitar Amplifies the sound.
The Hard Body of an Electric Guitar does not Amplify sound.
Amplification requires Extra Energy.
Resonance is a Phenomenon.

The Observer




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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #68 on: January 31, 2009, 11:37:24 PM »
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Offline Mannix

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2009, 12:12:13 AM »
I think that Mr news is just pulling your chains
he is right about waht he hs said .

That does not mean that we cannot create devices that TAP a different source that the ones beaten into us  ...Does it?

"Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them"

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Offline The Observer

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2009, 01:19:50 AM »
Loner,

I agree that OU is not a great term.

There are unrecognized sources of free energy... and that is what this forum is concerned with.

The point is... We now pay for energy...save the wind and sun.
                           
                          Powers that be would dearly like the pay for energy paradigm to continue.

                          The pay for energy paradigm will end when currently unrecognized sources of energy are realized en masse.

I say resonance is one unrecognized source... and the phenomenon of Magnetic Permeability as it relates to Anisotropic Energy is another.

The Observer

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
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Offline exxcomm0n

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #71 on: February 01, 2009, 01:26:01 AM »
It has been fun, if only to deliberate upon the reason _I_ keep prodding at the envelope.

But let's try it a different way. Maybe 3rd time is the charm for a question.

@ newsflash

We know you hold magnets and gravity in contempt for their ability to perform power generation (outside of standard energy generation methods they are already being used) without the use of another energy source.

What are the "free" energy generation disciplines that ARE worthwhile of pursuing that  you deem worthy? (Besides solar.)

Offline X00013

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #72 on: February 01, 2009, 05:54:08 AM »
@news fish guy          STOP learning and START building.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyCe5kOjiSE       

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #73 on: February 01, 2009, 06:07:24 AM »
@ newsflash     
                                   Imagine every ou guy com'n at u, just not u, but the worlds non helpers,      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NnT0FSO5hM&feature=channel_page

Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #74 on: February 01, 2009, 08:51:26 AM »
hi every one

i' think i now can convinced newsflash with my question?

DO YOU THINK EARTH IS ROTATING AND REVOLVING?

if Yes then

CASE CLOSED NO MORE QUESTION YOUR HONOR!!!! ;D


God bless ;)
otits

 

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