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Offline z.monkey

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2009, 06:16:21 AM »
There would be no infinity if it were all limited.
Good will to All, for All is one.  All is Infinite...

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2009, 06:32:34 AM »
Whoa......lotsa philosophical content.

Universe: Was it always here, or was it created?

Energy: Always from within the "known universe" (which is kinda oxymoronic), or from a "zero point"?

Method: "Natural" vs. magnet or gravity (which I thought were pretty natural)?

These things I don't know, and while they are interesting to ponder, I really don't care.

I'm not really caring that much about the first as it is not a thing that I can experience or ever really know until there is FTL (faster than light) travel that would allow travel and distance measurement of the core and/or edges (if available, since another theory is that the universe is infinite) and maybe meet those that made it the way it is out there.

The 2nd question I don't care about much because it's almost a question of semantics as it is philosophy.
Any new energy that is not fully experimented with, tested, and understood would seem to come from no where or be "magic" until it has fulfilled those criteria.
Fire only came from lightning or magma before the creation of spark or understanding of friction was accomplished.

So call it Ether, Aether, Orgone, ZPE, or a fifth form of matter (assuming plasma as the fourth) that was not previously able to be sensed or measured, it doesn't matter.

Discovery of almost all the known energy types had to go from just being, to being explained, measured and
harnessed. We're still trying to understand those we know about better too (the case for magnets and gravity).

The 3rd philosophical question I don't care that much about either in EDITone way, but do very much in another.EDIT

I don't care because we need to change the effect our energy policies are having on our environment and it doesn't matter if something needs samarium cobalt mags, or the shoulder strap from a Victoria's Secret 34B wunderbra to work, as long as it does and changes our energy dependence effects.

Where the idea and proof comes from doesn't matter much either (although credit where it is due is very nice).
All it takes for the ticket from crackpot to genius is a replicated  working device (that people know about and use), so it (a solution) might come from any corner.

People playing with magnets or watching weights rise and fall are on the same natural quest man has always been on, the quest for better understanding of his environment and how to manipulate it (or its effects).
They might see something others have not (which I thought was how science progressed).

EDITI just hope that it's discovered soon.EDIT

One thing I do wonder about is when a new energy source is discovered, if it's commercialization and use will have other environmental effect that we won't see for years that will probably effect life negatively and we'll have to fight tooth and nail against (somewhat like our present situation with oil and coal) before we realize and try to correct it.

Since it's historically proven and all that we (humans) have that propensity.
But I guess that's kinda philosophical too.

;)

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2009, 06:35:38 AM »
I believe that you are an ignoramus...
Ignorant of natural law...
Ignorant of your creation...
Ignorant of the truth of creation...
You must be an orthodox scientist...
Life and the universe are constructed in a different way than you were taught in man's schools...

Ignoramus...

Man is spirit first and ignorant manimal second...

It's not a very good Haiku.

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
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Offline jadaro2600

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2009, 07:36:45 AM »
This is all in good time;

An over unity device will be discovered, there won't be any stopping it, and there won't be any stopping the economy that crashes worldwide behind it.  There's nothing that could be done for an economy that strives to base it's entirety on energy sources - a free one would mean a less valuable economy.

Prices are already high enough as they are, but prices are relative; like most things, the amount of time one has to work in order to be able to purchase the most basic nessesities is the most important ratio.  When this ratio goes up or down according to the wills and ills of the economy, then there is economic upset.

There is no doubt in my mind that if there were a free-energy over-unity device, the firt thing to perish would be everything around it, economy, people and all.

There's no model to support it.  save for maybe Jesus, the only valuable resource would become land and food, and the land food could be grown on.

Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2009, 12:04:06 PM »
Hi to all

I'm just an amateur experimenter and i also don't believe in excess energy until such time when i'ved discover Nikola Tesla, H. moray, Tom bearden and John Bedini there i see an overwhelming obvious of free energy ;D




otits :)

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Offline tinu

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2009, 12:57:59 PM »
... Tom bearden and John Bedini there i see an overwhelming obvious of free energy ;D

Yeah, right!
Especially those two crackpots are the ultimate proofs.  ;)
ROTFL

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2009, 01:57:17 PM »
Lets say it’s the years 1809. Someone find a rock that has some weird effects (nuclear).
You take the rock and manage to capture the electrons from the decay of the rock. You then put an electro magnet between your rock and ground. You then show this effect to some people. You would be at this point label a witch and burned at the stake. Looks like to me that newbie Newsflash is on a witch hunt. Hey, Newsflash, how does a magnet work? Where does gravity come from? I for one am not going to say the we are able to get energy from either one of these until I see proof of this, but I will not be so cocky to say that it is impossible.

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2009, 02:57:06 PM »
Lets say it’s the years 1809. Someone find a rock that has some weird effects (nuclear).
You take the rock and manage to capture the electrons from the decay of the rock. You then put an electro magnet between your rock and ground. You then show this effect to some people. You would be at this point label a witch and burned at the stake. Looks like to me that newbie Newsflash is on a witch hunt. Hey, Newsflash, how does a magnet work? Where does gravity come from? I for one am not going to say the we are able to get energy from either one of these until I see proof of this, but I will not be so cocky to say that it is impossible.


Cocky?? This is something man hasn't been able to do in its thousands and thousands of years of existence. It would be extremely cocky, no, just plain stupid -- to suggest you could do it, especially if you're some tool sitting around playing with magnets all day.... You think I'm on a witch hunt? Really? You don't think I WANT free energy.. I do... and REAL scientists are on their way to achieving it through very efficient solar panels.. But you guys, you're a bunch of non-scientists, for some reason playing around all day with concepts that will never work.

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2009, 03:00:07 PM »
But you guys, you're a bunch of non-scientists, for some reason playing around all day with concepts that will never work.
Ignoramus...

I am an actual scientist, employed as a scientist, and you are an ignoramus...

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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2009, 03:00:07 PM »
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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2009, 03:03:50 PM »
This Universe is proof that overyunity exists as it continues to grow with new stars/suns and planets, the flip side is that the Universe has the ability to have 100% recycle ability of energy.  The reason that few and many have looked for overunity in vacuum is because the space vacuum allows energy to propagate so freely at the atomic and below scale.  As particles come together through the atomic charges gravity starts to be created.

Just because we can't see it does not mean it doesn't exist, wind is a good example.  We can't see it but we can see the effects of it.

Some may think that we have not achieved overunity here but that is a matter of debate.

Offline Charlie_V

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2009, 03:32:29 PM »
Its as simple as this, we perceive two things in this universe.  The fact that there is order, and the fact that there is disorder.  Now all our physics is based around disorder since it is easiest to observe.  We have never observed an ordering effect, and thus we claim it is "impossible" to do such.  This I feel this is an erroneous claim.  The universe has order and logically there must exist an ordering mechanism (how ever useful this mechanism is to us I can't say - it might be an effect that takes millions of years to fully observe and thus we will never see it).  Mathematics and models are only good when there is experimental evidence backing it up.  Unfortunately most cosmology models of the universe are based on what we have observed - and that is very tiny in comparison to the universe itself. 

I find it hard to be a skeptic when there is so much evidence that an ordering mechanism does exist.  Its only a matter of time till we find it.

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2009, 03:34:46 PM »
This Universe is proof that overunity exists as it continues to grow with new stars/suns and planets

Scientists have not seen the entire Universe. The likelihood is that as new planets form, other ones die away. Energy is only  transferred.

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2009, 05:14:05 PM »
Hey, Newsflash, how does a magnet work? Where does gravity come from?

As I asked before. Please answer. I for one don’t know. But since you know that they are a waste of time then you must know how it all works, right?

I come here to see if there are any devices that have some merit. True, I haven’t found much in a device that I can build that will churn out energy 24/7.

If you are not interested in such things then why do you comment? Do you think that you are all of a suddenly going to wake everyone up? Or is it just an over powering feeling to tell people what to do?

Offline blueroomelectronics

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2009, 05:15:08 PM »
Ignoramus...

I am an actual scientist, employed as a scientist, and you are an ignoramus...

Really, what field of science?

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Re: Newsflash: Overunity is impossible
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2009, 05:46:02 PM »
As I asked before. Please answer. I for one don’t know. But since you know that they are a waste of time then you must know how it all works, right?

A magnet does not store power, i.e., what you would need to build some kind of free energy device.

A magnet uses force. It is connected in a way to other magnetic forces. You cannot extract energy from it. It doesn't matter how you arrange a magnet. It can only pull or repel something which already exists. Something whose mass is already defined. A magnet cannot increase the power of gravity or mass, and therefore, cannot create energy. Nothing can create energy.

 

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