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Author Topic: Joule Thief Bedini Motor  (Read 35666 times)

Offline jonnydavro

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Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« on: January 30, 2009, 09:16:16 AM »
Hi.I have been playing around with the joule thief circuit and i am amazed at what i can run with it.Reed switch motors, Dc motors all work great so i thought i would try it with my Bedini Motor.I used my 4 rotor bedini as the test bed as if i got it going i wanted to see if it could run a slave coil as well anyway i am pleased to report that it can.
It spins really fast on 1.5v and can light the neon.
It spins even faster with the slave coil connected as both coils are pulsing the one rotor using 2.4volts.I will buy some new batteries and see if the slave will run on 1.5v.It will also spin two rotors off the one coil.
I have attached some pictures and may make a vid.
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Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« on: January 30, 2009, 09:16:16 AM »

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2009, 02:00:09 PM »
@jonnydavro

I saw your post at @pirate Joule thief thread. It is good that you open a topic for it. It is very interesting.
Just in case, I posted a new circuit on my thread that coulb be of help:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.msg153904#msg153904

Do you have any schematic of the connections that has to be made in order to make the pulse motor to run with the JT?

There is another that runs a 555 timer circuit with a JT, but I dont remember where I saw it.

Good luck!

Jesus

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2009, 02:02:12 PM »
Very NICE Job jonnydavro.

Keep up the work and please keep us posted.

Thank You

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2009, 02:02:12 PM »
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Offline jonnydavro

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 01:58:42 PM »
Hi Jesus. Here is the circuit diagram.As you can see,i too use feedback and have done on most off my Bedini motors.I am following your experiments and  i think you will get there in the end.Keep going.Thanks for the links.
@Slayer.Thanks.
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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2009, 02:21:10 PM »
@jonnydavro

Thank you! I will study it and  see what I can learn. I will post it on my topic giving you credit.

Jesus

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
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Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 04:34:40 AM »
Jonny:

I am very impressed with your work.  When I started the joule thief topic, I had no idea it would lead to so many different and interesting things.  I am still building my Bedini motor and I will try one day to replicate what you have done.  I really and seriously doubt that John Bedini himself ever thought of doing what you have done.  Very nice job.

Bill

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2009, 05:28:43 AM »
I must concur, there is some noise about the effects of the JT circuit. I would be interesting to see a Bedini combined with one.  As for your pictures, I see a very large coil and a very small rotor; why is this?  Is there an rpm issue?

Bedini machines remind me of the old hit-or-miss motors.

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Offline nievesoliveras

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2009, 07:10:50 PM »
@jonnydavro

I made a replication of your idea. I used a different circuit but it works! Thank you for your help!

Jesus

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2009, 11:36:10 PM »
@pirate.Thanks Bill.I am just greatful that John Bedini released his work for us all to experiment with.It was your thread that peeked my interest in the joule thief and you have a great gathering off sharp minds there all pulling in the same direction so thanks again Bill. ;D
@Jadaro2600
I must concur, there is some noise about the effects of the JT circuit. I would be interesting to see a Bedini combined with one.  As for your pictures, I see a very large coil and a very small rotor; why is this?  Is there an rpm issue?

Bedini machines remind me of the old hit-or-miss motors.

Hi jadaro.This is a Bedini motor combined with a joule thief.Have a look at the circuit i have posted.This may make it a bit clearer what is going on.
Regarding your comments about the coil and rotor.The rpms from this motor are high and the coil is not overtly large.
@nievesoliveras.Hi Jesus.Thats great.Glad to be off help. ;D
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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2009, 11:36:10 PM »
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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 03:19:19 AM »
Jonny:

This was posted on another topic.  I didn't know if you had seen it.  Bedini motor operating off of a large cap, no batteries.  Stick a joule thief in there and who knows?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3562588371166049574

Bill

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 11:06:32 AM »
@ Pirate:

   Hey that vid is of John Bedini himself. Its one he did a while ago.

thaelin



Jonny:

This was posted on another topic.  I didn't know if you had seen it.  Bedini motor operating off of a large cap, no batteries.  Stick a joule thief in there and who knows?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3562588371166049574

Bill

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 11:06:32 AM »
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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 11:12:38 PM »
Hi,some people have asked for details off the ferrite i am using so here are some close up picture's.
The dimensions off the ferrite
lengh 27mm
OD-26mm
ID-13mm
There are 10 bifilar turns using singe solid core swg 23 bell wire.
The diode's that i have tried and found to work well are 1N4937 and 1N5408 and there may be others which work even better.
 There are people on pirate's joule thief thread who have designed high output joule thiefs which would be ideal for this application also.
Hope this helps. ;D
                            Regards jonnydavro


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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2009, 03:58:42 AM »
Jonny:

That looks exactly like the dimensions of the ferrite bead I used for some of my breadboard video experiments.  (see videos on youtube)  I used the bead as I had no toroid shapes to use that were actual ferrite and not powdered iron.  My thoughts are the more mass, the better whatever the ferrite is doing will be.  This may not be correct but, what do I know? (ha ha)   Great pics.

Bill

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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2009, 12:18:15 AM »
Hi.Lidmotor from the energeticforum has made a joule thief Bedini motor.It is looking really promising.
Take a look at the video he has made. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb2-ka6T3Zk

@pirate.Hi Bill. I think it is the same toroid as you used.I have only made 2 jt coils and this was my first one.The 2nd one was using a small feritte out off a cfl and the performance is no where near as good as the cylindrical one.
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Re: Joule Thief Bedini Motor
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2009, 03:31:39 AM »
I finally got in my parts to complete my Bedini motor and I will also combine this with the joule thief circuit.  I had to buy 50 transistors so, I have some room to play around and blow a few.  I am looking forward to this.

Bill

 

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