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ben8807

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My new setup.
« on: January 25, 2009, 04:57:47 AM »
Here's what I've built so far. It's a simple toroidal coil made of 18 gauge speaker wire. I tried driving it with a computer tied to an audio amp, but it wouldn't output a high enough frequency for resonance. I'm gonna need to plunk down the money for a function generator before I can progress much further, and then spend even more for a second one depending on my results. If anyone is willing to part with one cheap, or knows a good supplier I'm all ears, otherwise it's eBay for me.

The coil itself has a cardboard core and is wrapped with speaker wire. You'll notice it's two different colors, I had to splice in the middle, in retrospect I should have done the math first and gotten enough wire to avoid that problem. Oh well, next time.

My first step is to get the coil into longitudinal resonance. If I'm right it should allow me to produce high voltage DC off a single winding inductor from a high frequency input. If I can do that, then the next step is to take the other winding of the coil and start heterodyning frequencies with the two.

Will post more when I have a frequency generator and some actual results probably after a couple of paychecks.

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Re: My new setup.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2009, 12:24:34 AM »
bravo  ben8807 
i is like my tpu  whit big strong sparks  where is you colectors coils to see  sparks from out coils

keep going  is  like my tpu   ;) ;) ;)

ben8807

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Re: My new setup.
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2009, 04:06:31 AM »
My current setup has no collector coils. I plan to use the drive coils as the collector coils if and when I need them. Also I have no plans on generating power with the current setup. This might generate power, probably not. What I want to do is create a flux capacitor. Yes.... Sadly I realized far too late that this was what my idea literally was, yes I have seen back to the future. No this is not for time travel.

In a toroidal coil the electromagnetic flux can travel from one end of the coil straight back to the beginning. At the same time the current cannot. This means that a resonant toroidal coil should be able to produce a large voltage between the end coupled to a RF source and the free end when operating at its resonant frequency. In essence the flux is pushing all the electrons to one end of the coil and overriding back current. Should be interesting when I fire it up, but may smoke the function generator when I power it down.

Another interesting thing, at lease from how I see it now, is that if you took this device and coupled to the two ends of the coil you could then use the resultant DC and maintain the field. This however would take the system out of equilibrium and effectively discharge the capacitor causing a large current to flow through the coil.

The real question is if two of these devices can feed power to each other! If that works then the TPU has some solid merritt.

ben8807

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Re: My new setup.
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2009, 03:01:53 AM »
20mhz function generator is on order. Figure I only need around 4-6 based on my calculations, but a solid margin is good especially if I want to create more devices. Will post more as it becomes available.

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Re: My new setup.
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2009, 05:01:15 AM »
Hi Ben,

I'm buillding multiple function generators right now and I though I'd tell you what how I'm doing it, it's a good one for DIYing.
They will end up not being particularly costly but just take a little while to build, they work off two NE555 timer IC's (555's have got to be one of the cheapest and best components out there). Anyway, look up the "Aquapulser" circuit on the net, it is actually for HHO but generates a square wave within a square wave and has a good frequency range, I am connecting the output (before the MOSFET) to part of a simple function generator that nievasolivieras posted which uses just a few cheap capacitors, resistors, and transistors to make sine, square, integrator, and triangular waves. I'll then have a switch going from the different wave jumpers to the MOSFET and then the output.
I'll put up another post when they are all finished.
Regarding the TPU, the key or answer is likely in harmonics, frequencies interacting with each other to produce effects, the only thing is that you need more than one function generator to do that ;)

ben8807

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Re: My new setup.
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2009, 05:35:17 AM »
Using an off the shelf function generator because I need one that is easy to sweep and dial in, and this way I don't need to worry about R&D or the failure being in my test equipment. Also, I know that this should not generate power. I'm not trying to. I'm trying to get some of the other results. I want to get high voltage out of a single coil with an RF input, also I would like to see some sort of gyroscopic action. Two frequency generators will be for later, probably need another off the shelf function generator so that I can sweep both of them easily since pulsing a freq through one winding will cause a change in resonance in the other and vice versa. 555 Timers will be great if and when I have a non test bench model assuming I can get a good sin wave at 4mhz. First though gotta get a single coil to work.

But I do appreciate the insight magpie, well thought out comments are kinda rare in this forum.

ben8807

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Re: My new setup.
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 07:51:22 AM »
Not getting the form of resonance I want. Quite a disappointment. Will post more as I get it.

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Re: My new setup.
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2009, 02:34:33 PM »
Well out of the three ways of replication here is what you get:

Blind experimentation: Nothing. If the basic workings of a tpu were common and the result was easy to achieve then we would see unintentional use of this effect in devices not designed for it. Other than the accounts of old TVs exploding there is nothing. So we must conclude that the design must be specific and deliberate to use the forces that cause power generation.

Understanding the underlying physics: Sure, if you can do that then it should be reasonable to produce such a device, but other than blind speculation and pseudoscientific rants we don't have much to work with. If you find a bit of theory that seems solid and supports the idea then run with it.

Copying successful devices: Well we know that they are some form of toroidal coil. We know that Steven Mark obfuscated the actual workings of the device as much as possible and that he only told investors little tidbits of information within the misinformation. Don't believe everything written about the device, believe your eyes, watch the videos, but understand that anything spoken or written is at best a half truth.

I have a very crude theory about the device, but so far it hasn't stood up to experimentation. I will continue my experimentation though and if nothing else I hope to have a new transformer design.

Actually, he gave us everything we needed to know, to study, to replicate the tech.  He wanted us to have "understanding" and not just copy.  I understand, so now I design, and then I build.  And then?  Post a blueprint here?  It's already been done by SM, and few if any listen.  LOL  Human nature.

If you want to experiment, build three tube amps, with VHF triodes for color television.  Build a Magnetic Loop Antenna out of Litz wire to resonate at the combined frequency.  Pulse said control wires wrapped around the collector with F1, F2 and F3.  Add a sprinkle of bias to the collector to get them magnets rolling and wahla, you have a working SM style TPU.

Now, what I just wrote what seems like poppycock to 99 percent of you, because you do not yet have the understanding.  Read GK's post above, it was well written.  Then put your head back into what SM wrote and see what you see.  For years now I have been striving to understand, with a piece here and then a piece there.  Then, it just came together.  The same way with GK and others.

So, hang in there.  Just because life is quite here does not mean things aren't being experimented with.  Plus I know of other groups, at least three, not even associated with replicating the SM TPU, working on their own Toroidal devices. Though so far, SM's would seem to put out the most wattage, but has those eddy current problems. 

P.S.  Oh, once you understand, you will NEVER forget the kill switch OR the over heat sensor embedded in the collector.  I promise you that is part of my design.  LOL

giantkiller

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Re: My new setup.
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 09:01:00 PM »
Take your TPUs and straighten them out.
Wahla! You have Lakhovsky, Koone.
http://educate-yourself.org/be/lakhovskyindex.shtml
http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat2351055.pdf
http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat1962565.pdf

Leave them in a ring and you have Rife, Dotto, Steven Mark, Stan Deyo!
http://www.rife.org/
http://keelynet.com/biology/dotto.htm
http://www.overunity.com
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=stan+deyo  I emailed him and he replied 'Pulsed D.C.'

This guy got in trouble with the A.M.A. and F.D.A.
Koone
http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat6933819.pdf
Nobody would believe his witnesses. I saw the news report.

Don't just build. But see a pattern first from the masters.

Look at figure #3 in pat1962565.pdf. Do you see the Tesla Wireless Magnifier? You should!
Look at figure #2 in pat2351055.pdf. Do you see the TPU or canon balls? You should!
Look at figure #8 in pat2351055.pdf. Do you see the plate #61? I used aluminum. That was really stupid! The generated magnetic waves compressed against the plate and shot of the sides in very narrow emmissions. It stung! Dansway suggested that. You wanna get hurt? I can hurt you...

Bearden parasaid 'There are many ways to snag the Aether'.

All these devices transmit and receive. If you can't do the physics or the electronics then at least look for the mechanical patterns in the diagrams or the devices.

Someone posted about my Leedskalnin bottle coils and said the copper didn't have enough mass to transmit the kind of power it would take to levitate those slabs into place. Too bad. What people fail to notice is the quarry right next store to Coral Castle. It is a square box and the slabs were lifted straight out from the solid ground. The neighbors never heard a sound. Kinda gives a deeper meaning to the term 'Free-mason' now doesn't it.

If this doesn't help then follow my previous advice and get out now before you really go broke or hurt yourself. Seriously... These are really easy to do before you even realize it.

What does this have to do with the TPU? You will never be the same...

--giantkiller. How's that for cryptic?

P.S. Find the tune 'Bargain' by the Who. The words will enlighten you to your addiction. ;)

P.S.S. Bring it on!
« Last Edit: March 31, 2009, 09:45:20 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: My new setup.
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 10:07:59 PM »
What is SM really meant "three different pulse widths" when he said "three frequencies"?

(The large TPU in the video only had two frequencies.)

If you can squeeze the hose with two hands, you can squeeze it faster with three hands or you can stick with two hands and pass it through more than one pump.  In the more than one pump case, the pulse width would be smaller in each pump stage, or the repetition rate faster, or both.

The water in the hose is already moving as it reaches the subsequent pump stages, so you squeeze faster (higher frequency, shorter pulse).

Yep.  Pretty sure that is what he meant.