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Author Topic: LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Magnet Motor OU test, 3 videos on Youtube  (Read 28943 times)

Butch LaFonte

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See Pseudo Solid Rotator # 1,   # 2,    and     # 3
We are still trying to get the # 1 video uploaded, but are having trouble.
Also see attached file. It's a rotary layout of the principle designed by group member Nicolas.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

sushimoto

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Re: LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Magnet Motor OU test, 3 videos on Youtube
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2009, 12:00:11 PM »
Thinking that further...
If the circular rail is a wide thread and the rotor magnets are fitting nuts,
it should auto-rotate? A matter of translating the rotation into forward-motion.
How far have the magnets to move sideways in order to leave the stator completely?
Im not shure about the friction of a thread which is making that needed distance in
a 90 degrees turn, but the principle looks sweet. Especially by thinking of more stators.

I always like the ideas of moving magnets tangential into stator-fields in order
to get the axial force and this is another nice example of this principle.

chears.

Xaverius

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Re: LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Magnet Motor OU test, 3 videos on Youtube
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 08:41:44 AM »
@ All,

       These videos of this device are the real deal.  I personally have examined

this device in Butch's office at his home this afternoon.   During several attempts,

I achieved the same exact results as in the video.  What is needed now are

suitable mechanical couplings to convert the mechanical force into a usable

mechanical or electrical output.  Venture capitalists/Investors are needed to fully

develop this concept.  Nice work, Butch!

sushimoto

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Re: LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Magnet Motor OU test, 3 videos on Youtube
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 03:56:32 PM »
Hi,

isn't it the first step to (mechanically) convert
the (90degree) radial force of the magnets into axial movement on the circular rig
in order to make it self-running?

... or ist it your idea, to rotate the ring of magnets first with an electrical motor (needs a battery),
and then taking the resulting (snapping) force from each magnet?

Just wondering about the basic concept..

Were you able to to some more exact measurements of the involved relative force/distance relations?

Edit: swapped "axial" and "radial"
« Last Edit: January 25, 2009, 05:12:21 PM by sushimoto »

Butch LaFonte

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Public invited to my home for verification of Pseudo Solid device overunity
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 07:32:36 PM »
@ All,

       These videos of this device are the real deal.  I personally have examined

this device in Butch's office at his home this afternoon.   During several attempts,

I achieved the same exact results as in the video.  What is needed now are

suitable mechanical couplings to convert the mechanical force into a usable

mechanical or electrical output.  Venture capitalists/Investors are needed to fully

develop this concept.  Nice work, Butch!

The public is invited to my home for verification of our Pseudo Solid device overunity operation.
A list member as you can read above has tested it himself and verified that our device is exhibiting overunity operation.
I have an open door policy to anyone who would like to come by and test it.
Before I spend a lot of time work and money on a scaled up version I would like to have as many people as possible come my home and test the device.
It's a very simple test method, but one I believe is error proof.
It involves force times distance with a very simple wire that indicates force used as shown in the video on our site on Youtube.
If you are interested please contact me at lafontegroup@charter.net
I live nine miles outside Birmingham, Alabama.
Any day of the week is fine for coming by.
Day or night.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte


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Re: LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Magnet Motor OU test, 3 videos on Youtube
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 09:45:16 PM »
I have an idea for improvement ... I think ;D
In the original scenario all that strong force with which magnet is rotated inside magnetic field is used just for turning magnet. And that is just too bad.
You should use that magnetic force that spins magnet to push magnet forward along the track.
If the force that rotates magnet is really bigger than the force required to move magnet out of the magnetic field than you have a self-runner. In not, well It won't be the first time.  ;D

wizardofmars

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Re: LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Magnet Motor OU test, 3 videos on Youtube
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 05:18:26 AM »
Is this the same Butch LaFonte involved with testing the GMCC overunity motor a few years ago?

The SEC filed an action against GMCC for a multi-million dollar overunity fraud last year.

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On February 22, 2008, the Securities and Exchange Commission filed an action against GMC Holding Corporation (GMC) and its chief executive officer, Richard Brace, for defrauding investors by issuing false press releases touting the company's development of a motor technology device capable of generating unlimited energy and negotiations to sell this technology for hundreds of millions of dollars. The Commission's complaint further alleges that these false press releases enabled GMC and Brace to raise more than $2 million from investors through illegal unregistered offerings of the company's stock.

According to the Commission's complaint, GMC and Brace issued press releases in 2005 falsely claiming independent tests, issued by a professional engineer, on the motor device showed it was able to produce more energy than it consumed.  In reality, according to the complaint, the press releases claiming that the motor device produced more energy than it consumed failed to include the professional engineer's limitations, namely that the efficiency lasted only a few moments and that they were unable to duplicate the results in subsequent tests.

The complaint also alleges that GMC and Brace issued false press releases in February and March 2006 stating that it was negotiating with unnamed S&P 500 corporations to acquire the company's technology for $300 - 500 million. These press releases, drafted by Brace, were utterly false.  GMC and Brace never contacted, much less negotiated with, an S&P corporation, or any other company, regarding the sale of the company's technology.

http://pesn.com/2008/02/26/9500474_SEC_files_action_against_GMC_Holdings/

Butch LaFonte

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Re: LaFonte Group not allowed to test GMCC machine
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 06:20:55 AM »
Is this the same Butch LaFonte involved with testing the GMCC overunity motor a few years ago?

The SEC filed an action against GMCC for a multi-million dollar overunity fraud last year.

http://pesn.com/2008/02/26/9500474_SEC_files_action_against_GMC_Holdings/
Yes, it is, GMCC refused to allow him to test the machine after he spent 1200 dollars putting together a team to test it.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

Butch LaFonte

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Re: LaFonte Group not allowed to test GMCC machine, link below
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 06:31:41 AM »
Yes, it is, GMCC refused to allow him to test the machine after he spent 1200 dollars putting together a team to test it.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte
See this link for more information on GMCC testing by LaFonte Group
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1052

sushimoto

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The public is invited to my home for verification of our Pseudo Solid device overunity operation.
A list member as you can read above has tested it himself and verified that our device is exhibiting overunity operation.
I have an open door policy to anyone who would like to come by and test it.
Before I spend a lot of time work and money on a scaled up version I would like to have as many people as possible come my home and test the device.

<SNIP>

I wish, I could. Cordially. :'(

But unfortunately, I am in Germany. Where can I get these drilled Magnets?
Maybe it helps, if people work on the same proof-of-concept simultaneously?
How else can we participate on an international basis?
Which 3D Program are you using?
If you export the model as DXF or any other interchange-format we could
at least share ideas and possibly improvements "virtually digital"

best,
sushimoto

Butch LaFonte

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Possible improvement in design
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 07:35:18 PM »
See attached drawings,
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

Butch LaFonte

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<SNIP>

I wish, I could. Cordially. :'(

But unfortunately, I am in Germany. Where can I get these drilled Magnets?
Maybe it helps, if people work on the same proof-of-concept simultaneously?
How else can we participate on an international basis?
Which 3D Program are you using?
If you export the model as DXF or any other interchange-format we could
at least share ideas and possibly improvements "virtually digital"

best,
sushimoto

Sushimoto,
Those are not magnets, they are 1018 mild steel. I had them machined here in town.
The large bars are 1018 steel also and the two magnets are grade 48 NIB, 1" by 1 "
I will post exact dimensions of test fixture.
I will ask Nicolas what 3D program he is using.
Yes I think we can work through the web on this.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

sushimoto

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Re: LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Magnet Motor OU test, 3 videos on Youtube
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2009, 08:26:00 PM »
just mild steel?

WOW, a good example of how important it is, to think and keep it simple.
At least, i was considering them of beeing ferrite.

damn,
thanks :)


sparks

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Re: LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Magnet Motor OU test, 3 videos on Youtube
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2009, 08:53:52 PM »
   If you look at a plain old dc motor we see that the armature conductors continually fall into a void in the magnetic field of the stator.  This magnetic void is created by the armature currents driven perpendicular to the field magnetic lines of force.  In the direction of rotation the magnetic field flux is cancelled while "behind" the conductor the magnetic field of force is strengthened.  For a magnetic drive motor simply create the magnetic field so that the armature current needs not to be commutated and reversed.   This would involve two polarized rings one set inside the other creating a uniform magnetic field inbetween the two rings.  This will require no commutation as the conductors will always be in the same plane of the field.     Into this cavity or slot between the two rings (just like an armature conductor resides perpendicular to the field winding)   insert a circular magnet polarized to mimic a conductor carrying 25amps attached to the rotor.  Insert as many as you want on the rotor extending into the gap between the two pm rings.  Watch it spin.  Don't tell anyone or the powers that be will send puppets like the SEC to mess with you.

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Re: LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Magnet Motor OU test, 3 videos on Youtube
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 02:10:14 PM »
@ All,

       These videos of this device are the real deal.  I personally have examined

this device in Butch's office at his home this afternoon.   During several attempts,

I achieved the same exact results as in the video.  What is needed now are

suitable mechanical couplings to convert the mechanical force into a usable

mechanical or electrical output.  Venture capitalists/Investors are needed to fully

develop this concept.  Nice work, Butch!

Hi, Xaverius!

It's good that you've examined mr. LaFonte's (/ his group) device "in vivo"...


However, the "one shot" concept is not enough to recognise a real "overunity".

This was understood more than a century ago..  Old stuff, kind of..?.



(Remember the "SMOT" concept?)  ;) It's almost 90 years old....

Do you people really understand the concept of "Energy" (and all what is happening during the "interchange")?... Or, repetitive / periodical functioning, or the point of "closing " the cycle?
Yes or No?
Mr. LaFonte?

Why is it always so difficult (impossible, maybe?) to "close the loop"?