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Author Topic: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko  (Read 25751 times)


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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2009, 01:41:02 AM »
Interesting.

I may be wrong, but despite the fact that there are multiple lines on a pole, don't we already use a single line for transmissions?

What's the difference?; Is this just a deviation without ground?

Is this more or less dangerous that AC? ( har har @ edison )

Some more links to the same:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6104107.html
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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 07:33:06 AM »
@Loner:
Perhaps you could could help to to understand his circuit then.

@Magnethos:
Is there any interest in a replication?

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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 07:33:06 AM »
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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2009, 11:04:48 AM »
@jadaro2600
I can't replicate it because I haven't enought knowledges about electronics. My interest is to know more about electricity and if we understand that circuit we will know a bit more about what electricity really is.

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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2009, 05:38:51 PM »
I find this post from Dr. Stiffler helpful in explaining what the AV plug does, confirming some ofwhat is said above. It is interesting to note that in his SEC system, his positive results seem to be dependent on an open primary and secondary. There are some gems on the AV plug in Doc Stiffler's thread and in some of the Youtube videos that replicated the SEC that can help us better understand it (the AV plug and its function.  See: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3457.msg61052#msg61052
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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2009, 01:02:31 AM »
I think that this is more about Avramenko's circuit than it is about Tesla's tower.

Looking at Avramenko's flowchart diagram, the end result is a single wire transmission, whereas Tesla's tower was wireless..

The ideas aren't totally removed from one another however, ..After reading a bit about cable signals, really what's happening in an analog signal is no different than what happens through the air, the required power for one versus the other is much different though.  You wouldn't want 50k watts going through your coax.

I suppose the only similarity is to take Tesla's transmitter and hook a wire up to it directly to the receiver...as Avramenko has done.

This is my understanding at least.  Avramenko's design doesn't use the power or the frequency involved, however.


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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2009, 04:02:54 AM »
I'm trying to conceive of a simple way to replicate his setup, however, for starters, the local Radioshack doesn't carry the 555 or 556 IC logic chips anymore, they only carry these OP amp chips.  I don't think the even carry darlington pairs - they just peddle LEDs, batteries, and adapter plugs.

Secondly, I've lost my breadboard...  :o

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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2009, 05:42:17 AM »
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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2009, 07:17:59 AM »
I believe this is related to this topic.  Here is a video of my modified Fuji AA circuit lighting 100 LEDs using only one wire.  A single AA battery and a single wire lighting 100 leds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQpx86Eg03g

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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2009, 07:17:59 AM »
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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2009, 03:56:24 PM »
@Pirate
400 Leds using only and AA battery? That's is too much. :o

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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2009, 07:33:03 PM »
Thanks.  They are brighter with both wires as you can see in my other videos on there but, I just thought it was interesting that the light at all.  100 was my limit for the one wire tests.  with both wires running the 100 leds, they are almost too bright and I don't run them very long as I do not want to burn them up.  But, 400 leds is my limit for now using both wires.

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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2009, 07:33:03 PM »
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ive attention. IF this is HIGH FREQUENCY /RF) even low frequency square wave)
This it is not one wire transmission. !!
Its an cloused ring circuit !!. (Oszillator Antenna Capacitor (load) Ground Oszillator )!!

Because RF  even LF square wares conduct over capacities the loads (as xenon (Naudin), as fluiorescent lamps as neons as led
(an even-if you have hi power, also bulbs (filament glow lamps.)

Square waves (even if low frequency if the have very short ( switch t(on) and t(off) times
(see datasheets 555  if thas was used for example.
so that say if the output voltages are transferred via
condensor (even if only picofarad ranges ,
so your power will  be transferred.  (capacity resitance ).
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50 years ago ..... if i have connected  my Shortwave transmitter (100 watts)  in serie of an lamp (filament normal lamp 60 watts) to  the  "One wire" SW antenna . The lamp will glow up bright.
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So what Naudin and you do , is nothing other !! (in milliwatt range.)
No wonder over that, if you collect some parts of MILLIwatts,
that LED will burn . IF the wiring of this is the antenna,
and your hands or other parts around is the capacitive ground or the load,  so the oszillator circuit stend power to the output
(antenna)  and the controlling load resistor (replaceed here with lamps,) glow up. I am wondering since years that nobody will
shown this examination, but designs schemas over schemas over this very simply technic that (must) know even any  radioamateur-

Gustav Pese

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ive attention. IF this is HIGH FREQUENCY /RF) even low frequency square wave)
This it is not one wire transmission. !!
Its an cloused ring circuit !!. (Oszillator Antenna Capacitor (load) Ground Oszillator )!!

Because RF  even LF square wares conduct over capacities the loads (as xenon (Naudin), as fluiorescent lamps as neons as led
(an even-if you have hi power, also bulbs (filament glow lamps.)

Square waves (even if low frequency if the have very short ( switch t(on) and t(off) times
(see datasheets 555  if thas was used for example.
so that say if the output voltages are transferred via
condensor (even if only picofarad ranges ,
so your power will  be transferred.  (capacity resitance ).
-------------------------------
50 years ago ..... if i have connected  my Shortwave transmitter (100 watts)  in serie of an lamp (filament normal lamp 60 watts) to  the  "One wire" SW antenna . The lamp will glow up bright.
----------------------------------
So what Naudin and you do , is nothing other !! (in milliwatt range.)
No wonder over that, if you collect some parts of MILLIwatts,
that LED will burn . IF the wiring of this is the antenna,
and your hands or other parts around is the capacitive ground or the load,  so the oszillator circuit stend power to the output
(antenna)  and the controlling load resistor (replaceed here with lamps,) glow up. I am wondering since years that nobody will
shown this examination, but designs schemas over schemas over this very simply technic that (must) know even any  radioamateur-

Gustav Pese

By these statements then, I can assume that there will be RF losses due to the one wire emitting electromagnetic waves?

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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2009, 01:06:12 AM »
All that is used in loads (leds , light, calor etc
was powered from an source. EVEN IF IT only
(invisual) capacitiv connected . (as second path ,
that can peplace the missed 2. wire).
i think that is short and to understand my knowledge
from them...
G.Pese

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Re: One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2009, 01:38:43 AM »
It would be interesting to know if anyone's done anything with this lately?

I couldn't find any 555 timers, And i've lost my breadboard, ... SO I went to the local radioshack and those people don't have any answere's, so I looked for another source of IC logic chips, Apparently Texas Instruments will ship free samples to people, so I requested 2 types of 555 chips, and 2 556 timers. Additionally, a chip called the TLC2272AMD - just for fun. And for FREE btw, shipping costs and all.  It's good to be a student.

Perhaps one of you could enlighten me as to what the voltages are across the one wire - . I was thinking of using these camera batteries, these 3v 123 Photo lithium cells, or maybe some rechargeable.

Maybe I'll just use the AC hobby source and rectify it for the purposes of running the timer chip.  I'm a little lost on all of this though...there would be no point if I have a pre-existing AC source now would there?  I can just run the...

Wait, how does this Avramenko circuit work again? LOL.

 

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