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Author Topic: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !  (Read 17844 times)

hartiberlin

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Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« on: January 12, 2009, 10:12:59 PM »
Hear the live report on the Rense show:

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Sameh_Habeeb_010509.mp3

This is said at 13:55 min in the file.

It is really sad to hear, what is going on there and
Israel premiere Olmert called Bush not to vote for the UN resolution
and Bush forbid
C. Rice to vote with Yes...
source:
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/israel496.html

So you see, how the USA is influenced ( controlled) by Israel.

So there will be cancer all over the Gaza Strip soon
from all the bomb smoke dust clouds.

Very sad.

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2009, 10:32:46 PM »
If this is accurate .this would be a war crime
Chet

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2009, 10:40:30 PM »
If this is accurate .this would be a war crime
Chet

It should be, but unfortunately the use of depleted uranium in weapons is not prohibited like poison gas for instance. Undesirable as it is, it is considered a legitimate part of a nation's arsenal. Madness, if you ask me, but fact.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2009, 11:05:20 PM »
Stefan,
Israel does not control the U.S.
The Christians in America do give the Jews in Israel enough rope to hang themselves.
It’s a Armageddon thing.

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2009, 11:16:13 PM »
Even though both sides are nutty as hell and bent on destroying each other at it appears at any cost no matter what anyone outside asks or says, this would be a very bad blow to any type of agreement between those party's and would make a Arab rift across the world.

The depleted "Uranium" is usually used in a hardened projectile munitions for artillery or tanks to penetrate enemy tank or personnel carrier armor and bombs from jets are used as bunker busters or for deep earth building penetrations pretty nasty stuff to use in populated areas, mostly for no holds bared all out war.

This is something more credible witnesses from other news or government agency's need to verify, but it appears there is a physical news "black out" to European, American and Asian reporters in Gaza.

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 11:45:00 PM »
I could be wrong but I don’t think Israel worries about war crimes.
It’s only a war crime if you lose the war.
It’s not likely Israel will lose the war with the Palestinians.

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 12:06:55 AM »
@stefan

The people that have the money have to SAY.
The U.S. has no money.
The FED has the money.
The U.S. pays the FED
and therefore no power.
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I have so resume,
but do not know if- I have understood it well ...
Gustav

...
Uranium ?

No Problem !
In Iraq it was also used ....

it shown so : it will becomes now "usually"

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 12:15:07 AM »
The people that have the money have to SAY.
The U.S. has no money.
The FED has the money.

And who is the FED?  Who controls it?

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View from Palestine is very different from most news sources:

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=14650

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Very little support for Palestine in the US Senate:

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=14635

Quote
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) was a lone voice in the Congress expressing any kind of empathy for the plight of the Palestinians. In remarks from the floor of the House, he said:

"Wake up America. We have trillions for a war machine and the banks while our government stands by and sniffs at the slaughter of innocents in Gaza, where Israel is blocking aid for wounded Palestinians. Here’s today’s Washington Post. It says, ‘The International Committee of the Red Cross said Thursday that it found at least 15 bodies and several children emaciated but alive in a row of shattered houses in the Gaza Strip and accused the Israeli military of preventing ambulances from reaching the site for 4 days. 12 corpses lying on mattresses in one home, along with 4 young children lying next to their dead mothers.’ That’s a quote.

"Today, US tax dollars, US jets, and US helicopters provided to Israel are enabling the slaughter in Gaza. The administration enables Israel to press forward with the attack against defenseless civilians, blocks efforts at promoting a cease-fire at the UN, and refuses to make Israel compliant with conditions that arms shipments will not be used for aggression. Israel is going to receive $30 billion in a ten year period for military assistance, without having to abide by any humanitarian principles, international laws, or standards of basic human decency. Wake up America."

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2009, 12:33:47 AM »
Grumpy
Thats pretty F**king disgusting 30 billion bucs to dirty bomb little kids [I know there is more to it than that]
Complete pack of assholes running the show

This will get much nastier
Chet

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2009, 05:02:02 AM »
That dot Com is questionable.

Israel came about as the result of the Israelites defending themselves from war crimes, surely they know a thing or two about it.

Depleted uranium used on the gaze strip would mean radioactive fallout in Israel as well.  This event is most likely not a thing that is based in fact or reality.

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2009, 05:33:43 AM »
Depleted uranium is not radioactive.  At all.  That is why it is called depleted.  It is used in armor piercing shells.  I actually doubt they are using it because the opposition is not using armor.

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009, 07:16:14 AM »
Depleted uranium is not radioactive.  At all.  That is why it is called depleted.  It is used in armor piercing shells.  I actually doubt they are using it because the opposition is not using armor.

bull shit, use your hallowed wiki before you post such crap, take a chemistry class...
"Depleted uranium (DU) is uranium primarily composed of the isotope uranium-238 (U-238). Natural uranium is about 99.27 percent U-238, 0.72 percent U-235, and 0.0055 percent U-234. U-235 is used for fission in nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons, natural uranium is enriched in U-235 by separating the isotopes by mass. The byproduct of enrichment, called depleted uranium or DU, contains less than one third as much U-235 and U-234 as natural uranium. Because U-234 accounts for about half the radioactivity of natural uranium, the external radiation dose from DU is about 60 percent of that from the same mass of natural uranium.

Depleted uranium munitions are controversial because of unanswered questions about potential long-term health effects. DU is less toxic than other heavy metals such as arsenic and mercury, and is only very weakly radioactive because of its long half-life.[4] While any radiation exposure has risks, no conclusive epidemiological data have correlated DU exposure to specific human health effects such as cancer.[5] However, studies using cultured cells and laboratory rodents continue to suggest the possibility of leukemogenic, genetic, reproductive, and neurological effects from chronic exposure.[6] In addition, the UK Pensions Appeal Tribunal Service in early 2004 attributed birth defect claims from a February 1991 Gulf War combat veteran to depleted uranium poisoning.[7][8] A 2005 epidemiology review concluded: "In aggregate the human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in offspring of persons exposed to DU."[9]"


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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2009, 08:18:23 AM »
bull shit, use your hallowed wiki before you post such crap, take a chemistry class...
"Depleted uranium (DU) is uranium primarily composed of the isotope uranium-238 (U-238). Natural uranium is about 99.27 percent U-238, 0.72 percent U-235, and 0.0055 percent U-234. U-235 is used for fission in nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons, natural uranium is enriched in U-235 by separating the isotopes by mass. The byproduct of enrichment, called depleted uranium or DU, contains less than one third as much U-235 and U-234 as natural uranium. Because U-234 accounts for about half the radioactivity of natural uranium, the external radiation dose from DU is about 60 percent of that from the same mass of natural uranium.

Depleted uranium munitions are controversial because of unanswered questions about potential long-term health effects. DU is less toxic than other heavy metals such as arsenic and mercury, and is only very weakly radioactive because of its long half-life.[4] While any radiation exposure has risks, no conclusive epidemiological data have correlated DU exposure to specific human health effects such as cancer.[5] However, studies using cultured cells and laboratory rodents continue to suggest the possibility of leukemogenic, genetic, reproductive, and neurological effects from chronic exposure.[6] In addition, the UK Pensions Appeal Tribunal Service in early 2004 attributed birth defect claims from a February 1991 Gulf War combat veteran to depleted uranium poisoning.[7][8] A 2005 epidemiology review concluded: "In aggregate the human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in offspring of persons exposed to DU."[9]"


60% idiot

I have machined depleted uranium parts for several military research applications and I am still here.  As it is said above many heavy metals are far more dangerous.  Depleted uranium is depleted..end of story.  The drywall in your house has more radioactivity than this stuff.  The damn mercury in these stupid cfls poses more of a danger to folks.  Now, if Israel were dropping cfls over there, I would then be concerned.  The misinformation about DU began years ago in the US press and it still goes on today.

Bill

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2009, 08:21:22 AM »
I have machined depleted uranium parts for several military research applications and I am still here.  As it is said above many heavy metals are far more dangerous.  Depleted uranium is depleted..end of story.  The drywall in your house has more radioactivity than this stuff.  The damn mercury in these stupid cfls poses more of a danger to folks.  Now, if Israel were dropping cfls over there, I would then be concerned.  The misinformation about DU began years ago in the US press and it still goes on today.

Bill

of course bill, you weren't breathing an aerosol... nor are you giving birth (i hope  ;) )... i never said it would kill you did i?
http://www.ehjournal.net/content/4/1/17
and 60% is the low estimate, taking into account only the alpha emissions. what of its daughter isotopes? thorium -234 and protactinium -234? did you consider the beta and gamma emissions of these being added to the alpha emissions of the u -238? sure it has a half life of billions of years, but that is not what we are talking about, we are talking about du being pyrophoric and creating an aerosol when used as a projectile.

its NOT depleted, end of story.

edit: who needs to deal with all the global backlash of killing people when you can screw with their reproductive capabilities and in a generation or two or three there is no one left to oppose you...
« Last Edit: January 13, 2009, 08:43:45 AM by WilbyInebriated »

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Re: Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2009, 08:50:56 AM »
G'day all,

I think we have a bit of a misunderstanding here.

Mildly radioactive substances may be completely harmless when handled. Take Tritium for instance, a form of hydrogen. Tritium oxide is a radioactive form of water. You could swim in it and it would do you no harm. Breathe the vapour or drink the shit and you die, just a question of how much you ingested and how long it'll take before you are dead.

The reason, there is not enough radioactivity present to penetrate the skin.

The same I should imagine with depleted Uranium. You could get away probably with eating it, it would pass through your system before it could do any real harm. Breathing in the particles is a different proposition altogether. Any dust you breathe in is not readily eliminated from the lungs, if at all. There has to be a hazard there.

I do not trust the re-assurances of governments when it comes to questions of their treasured weaponry. They had soldiers standing with their backs to an atmospheric atomic explosion in tests at Maralinga during the 50's and told them there was nothing harmful in this. Even at that time the Australian and British governments knew different.

So don't trust them when they say it is harmless. Remember Agent Orange?

Hans von Lieven