Author Topic: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!! (Read 208064 times)

Goat · « **Reply #30 on:** January 25, 2009, 06:56:45 AM »

@ gadgetmall

I appreciate your help.

You sounded a little frustrated in your last post, please don't be, just don't answer me if somehow I get your blood pressure going...

I understand what you're saying it's just that the 48 Volt rotor has a steel post and is an aluminum frame bottom and the rotor won't break away from it!

I've watched both yours and Imhoteps videos and I've had the same results as you for the plastic fans where I ended up gluing everything back as you did....but this one's different.

Because of the steel post on the 48 Volt fan the stator is not budging short of taking a hammer to it! I've already pried on the stator short of damaging it (I hope I didn't) but so far the easiest method still looks like punching out the shaft to get at the stator.

I know that my model number is slightly different than yours because of the speed control, maybe it's construction is different (the picture was posted above). The picture here is of the bottom where you can see the stator shaft and how it's pressed in.

Regards,
Paul

gadgetmall · « **Reply #31 on:** January 25, 2009, 08:41:11 AM »

Im sorry i looked back at my post and yea My Bp was up . You have a unique fan . I have never seen one with an a cast frame . Interesting . Mine had a speed sensor on it also. three wires red black and white.. well shoot . i would try just heating up the back a little and see if the glue comes loose if there is any and i suspect there is . maybe a hair dryer on the back for a while then get a rag and see if it will come loose if not i guess the only way is to beat it up or dremal it out . if you had a hole saw that might work ???as i said you can order these fans now there is another place i posted you can get them like i got .Another thing is i want to help yall . i had a few bad comments on the powersupply bedin saying it was a scam and some how i faked the video . that pissed me off . then there was another guy that told me DMM dont measure right with High frequency . I know that but its filtered DC going to the battery no pulses and then he said the lead acid battery was somehow heating up creating the illusion of charging up when it was really discharging . What a Crock , I am Redoing the experiment with nicads or a gel cell and redoing the video. the problem is it only gives me 10 mins on utube and there is not much i can show cause the voltage goes up slowly , just slightly over unity and if i do it in time lapst then there goes the door open for more criticisms . you know i am proud of what i did and i don't really care anymore if someone don't believe me or it . at least i am happy with My inventions and they do what i want them to do for ME.. . G nite bud ..

Hoppy · « **Reply #32 on:** January 25, 2009, 11:45:51 AM »

Quote from: gadgetmall on January 25, 2009, 08:41:11 AM

Im sorry i looked back at my post and yea My Bp was up . You have a unique fan . I have never seen one with an a cast frame . Interesting . Mine had a speed sensor on it also. three wires red black and white.. well shoot . i would try just heating up the back a little and see if the glue comes loose if there is any and i suspect there is . maybe a hair dryer on the back for a while then get a rag and see if it will come loose if not i guess the only way is to beat it up or dremal it out . if you had a hole saw that might work ???as i said you can order these fans now there is another place i posted you can get them like i got .Another thing is i want to help yall . i had a few bad comments on the powersupply bedin saying it was a scam and some how i faked the video . that pissed me off . then there was another guy that told me DMM dont measure right with High frequency . I know that but its filtered DC going to the battery no pulses and then he said the lead acid battery was somehow heating up creating the illusion of charging up when it was really discharging . What a Crock , I am Redoing the experiment with nicads or a gel cell and redoing the video. the problem is it only gives me 10 mins on utube and there is not much i can show cause the voltage goes up slowly , just slightly over unity and if i do it in time lapst then there goes the door open for more criticisms . you know i am proud of what i did and i don't really care anymore if someone don't believe me or it . at least i am happy with My inventions and they do what i want them to do for ME.. . G nite bud ..

Hi Gadgetmail

The way to prove that your setup works OU or near to it is to reduce the size of your battery down to say 2.8A/hr and then monitor the discharge voltage. I too get a rise but it does eventually fall. Its to do with battery internal resistance alterations. A big battery will show a slow rise of terminal voltage over a considerable period of time.

It does not really matter whether people believe or disbelieve you, whats important is not to delude yourself.

Hoppy

AhuraMazda · « **Reply #33 on:** January 25, 2009, 01:27:41 PM »

It is easy to prove if your system is OU in a short time. Use a large capacitor, charge it up and instead of a battery, use the capacitor.

gadgetmall · « **Reply #34 on:** January 25, 2009, 04:27:33 PM »

@hoppy . ok i am doing that i have one of the smallest 12 1.2 amp hr batterys they make . it is brand new . i will build one more cause i have more fans an parts and test that theory . also i have some little nicads . it will run on 6 volts also i will try it that way too.
@AhuraMazd
Been down that road . it blows transistors . it need a buffer ,the battery . Voltage is way too high as you see in the video it put out over 100 volts in less than 1 min thus a Big bang . that will just blow the circuit .

Thaelin · « **Reply #35 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:52:52 PM »

Hi Gaget:
You are so right here. The battery buffers the spikes that are returning from the coil.
Without it, the high voltage will be sent directly back into the transistor when it fires. I
doubt that a general purpose transistor can handle that. I tried to use a 12v regulator
back to the source and it blew that too.

thaelin

gadgetmall · « **Reply #36 on:** January 30, 2009, 05:57:44 PM »

ok i have donr just one test so far on the 48 volt bedini . It is running off of a 6 volt battery at 6.54 volts now for 4 days . it is at unity ! the volts remain at 6.54 - 6.55 . that is a long time running this . the adjustment is very very touchy to the poing where the fan stops and the fan runs drawing current . there is a sweet spot for the feedback . I will have to get another pot to put in series but right now i am jobless , Disabled and out of money except for the child support My x is paying . its for my girl . we will see how things are going in a month or so before i buy anything else from the junk yard. I have had a lot of comments that they tried to reproduce this and they say is was shorting out . i dont know if they were using 12 volt fans or 48 volt . i can say that My 12 volt fan bedinis stop running with the exact same circuit . i think this is due to the low resistance in the coils . My 48 volt fan is high resistance . It wont stop and i can turn the pot up to where the fan runs fast but no charge even with the feed back on . Just a little slower on feedback than with it off.

gadgetmall · « **Reply #37 on:** February 02, 2009, 11:50:00 PM »

New Video Shortly just have to cut it in half . Its the 48 volt power supply bedini Inside View off the kitchen table to show no external connections . Its for a rebuttal for comwarrier64 . and showing it charge up a brand new battery . He Said he replicated it and it didn't work cause HE KNOWS Basic Electronics and ITS a FAKE . lol well his rep was not this he left out the most improtant thing the 48 volt fan with the high resistance. and the transistor i used .. and the 17 amp diode and he is a jerk like Desertphile .

Here is what i think is happening .. I think during the Off Cycle or BEMF Cycle is going back thru the Transistor Due to reverse breakdown of the Transistor i am using . Thus it take the path of lease resistance which in this case is the battery . the resistance of the coil and diode is approx 71 ohms . That is why it wont stop when i Feed back the high voltage spikes ..
comming soon ................

raykos · « **Reply #38 on:** February 03, 2009, 01:43:46 PM »

Hello 'Gadgetmall',

I'm interested in your circuit, and maybe I missed some other posting, but could you please let me know what a "K-101 Mil" is? It looks like a capacitor, but I'm not familar with that designation. If it is a capacitor, could you let me know it's value?

Thank you,
Ray

Thaelin · « **Reply #39 on:** February 03, 2009, 02:33:34 PM »

your cap is 100 pf +-10% and was manufactured for the military use.

Here is a good site to use for figureing values
http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/calccap.php

thaelin

Quote from: raykos on February 03, 2009, 01:43:46 PM

Hello 'Gadgetmall',

I'm interested in your circuit, and maybe I missed some other posting, but could you please let me know what a "K-101 Mil" is? It looks like a capacitor, but I'm not familar with that designation. If it is a capacitor, could you let me know it's value?

Thank you,
Ray

raykos · « **Reply #40 on:** February 03, 2009, 02:36:53 PM »

Thank you.

raykos · « **Reply #41 on:** February 05, 2009, 05:33:39 PM »

Hi all,

I'm trying to gather parts to build this circuit; however, I'm having trouble finding the 550uf 400V capacitors. The one site I found(Mouser Electronics) wants $27.00 ea.!

Does anyone know of any other suppliers?

Thanks,
Ray

gadgetmall · « **Reply #42 on:** February 05, 2009, 05:52:45 PM »

@ all . I get most of My stuff froma Millatay surplus Scrap yard . I get a bucket fill it to the top and give him 2 dollars for 50 pounds of component s. thats why i experiment so much . I love junk

heres the new Video of the power supply bedini inside and out .. Also its a rebuttal for conwarrier69 who mad or supossedly made a replication . No he did not ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aspnQPnaj1g

raykos · « **Reply #43 on:** February 05, 2009, 06:17:29 PM »

'Gadgetmall', thanks for the response, appreciate it. And, if I may, pay no attention to the naysayers.

This is another example of those who have gone before us knowing what they were talking about when they would try to teach us not to pay any attention to that kind of negativity. I think this quote would be appropriate:

"Those who say it can't be done, should not bother those who are doing it."

So, anyhow looks like I'm going to have to scout around looking for an "electronics boneyard"!

Thanks,
Ray

plengo · « **Reply #44 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:52:20 AM »

@Gadgetmall

great work! I am also replicating your experiment but for now I only have the 12 volts fans ( I ordered 3 48v fans, they are on the way ).

Would you be able to put a schematics of exactly what you have done on the latest video? I know it is a bedini SSG but you inserted a cap in series to the pot plus a diode and so on and it is not very obvious where things are connected. Would you please?

In my setup I using a 12v fan I replaced your cap (the one after the collector diode) with a charging battery but with another 200v 4000uf cap right before the battery in series and this setup when adjusted the pot until the voltage on that cap increases will also self-run. It is absolutely incredible!

Soon I will also post a video, but first more testing.

Fausto.

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