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Author Topic: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!  (Read 177442 times)

Offline plengo

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #90 on: February 16, 2009, 08:39:02 PM »
I re-tuned my fan to sound as close as possible to gadgetmall. My still runs a little bit faster but I think by the sound they are very similiar in the signal.

My battery is still the same voltage as 2 days ago.

Fausto.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2009, 02:06:17 AM by plengo »

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #91 on: February 17, 2009, 03:09:07 AM »
I re-tuned my fan to sound as close as possible to gadgetmall. My still runs a little bit faster but I think by the sound they are very similiar in the signal.

My battery is still the same voltage as 2 days ago.

Fausto.
Hmm. What do you think is going on there  ? ) you get em yet  ?

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #92 on: February 17, 2009, 04:04:42 AM »
here are some pictures of the FAN.

The voltage is still the same and then fan is spinning at about 150 rpm very slow, lots of radiant spikes and the long wave pulse. The total  length of time for the radiant spikes (all of them) and the wave is exactly 1/2 for each so at one revolution we have 1/2 radiant and 1/2 wave with reciprocals.

I am very puzzled but this little baby :)

@hartberlin,

I did not change any of the widdings of this fan I only separated one of the poles that had two wires into two poles totaling 4 poles now.

Fausto.



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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #92 on: February 17, 2009, 04:04:42 AM »
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #93 on: February 17, 2009, 04:36:41 AM »
Hi Fausto,
many thanks for the pictures.

I see, that these 48 Volts fans have very fine wire coils.
That is very interesting.
So they don´t have the big wire size normal 5 or 12 Volts fans have.

So this makes their inductance much higher and thus also the current going through them
much smaller, which is a good thing to save the batteries too much load current.

But now we still must know, which of the 4 coils you are using for the
primary and which for the secondary of your transformer in your circuit diagram ?

Did you put 2 in series for the primary and also 2 in series for the secondary ?
But which ones of the 4 coils ?

Many thanks in advance.

P.S. The sound wave sounds spooky ! ;) ;D

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2009, 05:06:13 AM »
Hi Fausto,
many thanks for the pictures.

I see, that these 48 Volts fans have very fine wire coils.
That is very interesting.
So they don´t have the big wire size normal 5 or 12 Volts fans have.

So this makes their inductance much higher and thus also the current going through them
much smaller, which is a good thing to save the batteries too much load current.

But now we still must know, which of the 4 coils you are using for the
primary and which for the secondary of your transformer in your circuit diagram ?

Did you put 2 in series for the primary and also 2 in series for the secondary ?
But which ones of the 4 coils ?

Many thanks in advance.

P.S. The sound wave sounds spooky ! ;) ;D

good question Stefan, I have no idea how they are really connect, all I know is that there are 4 wires and each connected to one wire to the SSG circuit. I pretty much just tried all combinations until it worked. This is because only ONE combination will work all the others will simply either run current through the FAN and not spin or either the system will simply not spin at all.

I was wondering the same thing as you do. I assume by looking into those coils with magnifying glasses that they are simply 4 coils and one of them is a bifilar but seams to be connected as if it was a simple wind.

I also played first with the 12v fan and they were using the same size of wire as far as I can remember just much smaller winds.

Fausto.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2009, 05:06:13 AM »
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2009, 05:30:28 AM »
Okay, maybe you can find out the correct wiring and make somepictures,
so we see,which coils are exactly used as the primary and which coils
are exactly used as the secondary .

I think this is important to know,cause these coils also accelerate and interact
with the rotor magnet field and we must know, which coils are energized at which
moment.

What happens, when the rotor stands still ?

How many input current are you going to draw then ?

Maybe you can optimize it then , so that a solid state device can
be created, by just using 2 different coils in each configuration ?


Many thanks.



Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #96 on: February 17, 2009, 07:22:52 AM »
@All
I ripped apart a 12v computer fan last night and did the mod but It doesn't put out enough voltage to light a neon.
And after running it for a few hours I noticed that the battery voltage was going down so my circuit isn't working right yet.
It may be that the motor must be a 48 Volt unit for this to produce excess energy.
I am using a 2n5551 npn transistor, maybe it needs to be a power transistor to put out more voltage.
Has anyone built a version of this using a common 12 volt computer fan?

Imhotep has a step by step video on how to do this and he uses a common 12 volt computer fan in the videos.
Here is the link for those that are interested, it's quite easy to replicate, the hardest part is getting the motor apart without damaging it.
http://d1190995.domaincentral.com.au/page3.html


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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #97 on: February 17, 2009, 12:41:41 PM »
@all

This is my contribution to this thread.

Last year I did the imhotep fan charger with a 12 volts fan, it worked with a 9 volts battery charging it back for 12 hours.
I began to mess with the batteries, changing the ones that were charged with the ones that were not, and suddenly it stopped working till today. I have left it aside while I get more knowledge and make it run back.

The coil principle is this:

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #98 on: February 17, 2009, 07:37:04 PM »
New sound from changing to a Different wet cell 12 volt car battery partial conditioning . Volts Rise and Sound is Slightly Varying in frequency . Yea it is strange sound .

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #99 on: February 17, 2009, 09:42:32 PM »
@All
I ripped apart a 12v computer fan last night and did the mod but It doesn't put out enough voltage to light a neon.
And after running it for a few hours I noticed that the battery voltage was going down so my circuit isn't working right yet.
It may be that the motor must be a 48 Volt unit for this to produce excess energy.
I am using a 2n5551 npn transistor, maybe it needs to be a power transistor to put out more voltage.
Has anyone built a version of this using a common 12 volt computer fan?

Imhotep has a step by step video on how to do this and he uses a common 12 volt computer fan in the videos.
Here is the link for those that are interested, it's quite easy to replicate, the hardest part is getting the motor apart without damaging it.
http://d1190995.domaincentral.com.au/page3.html


Check these 12 volt fan bedini s i built
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSdM4J44Q3o how to build a powersupply bedini
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyPxMgqaId8 powersupplybedini

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #100 on: February 17, 2009, 11:29:25 PM »
@plengo
I bought a 48 volt fan today that looks almost identical to yours,  same company even.
But when I opened it up it doesn't have bifilar windings in it, only a single strand from coil to coil.
How do I modify this type of motor?  Did yours have bifilar windings?

Should I modify it like nievesoliveras shows in his diagram a few posts up?
So 2 of the 4 windings are power and the other 2 are the output pulse?

It would be a lot of work to rewind this with a bifilar coil but I may have to do that.
If so I would just leave the circuit board intact and just remove these windings and rewind with bifilar.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2009, 12:07:10 AM by AbbaRue »

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #101 on: February 18, 2009, 01:05:25 AM »
@plengo
I bought a 48 volt fan today that looks almost identical to yours,  same company even.
But when I opened it up it doesn't have bifilar windings in it, only a single strand from coil to coil.
How do I modify this type of motor?  Did yours have bifilar windings?

Should I modify it like nievesoliveras shows in his diagram a few posts up?
So 2 of the 4 windings are power and the other 2 are the output pulse?

It would be a lot of work to rewind this with a bifilar coil but I may have to do that.
If so I would just leave the circuit board intact and just remove these windings and rewind with bifilar.

Hello . I am Fusionchip . If you have a BRUSH LESS FAN it is wound with two wires . on one of the end post there are two wires . you must get a magnifiers and carefully remove one of the wires and make an extra post or just solder a lead off it and glue it .
Also if you looked at My videos you will see it is impossible to just remove the stator ,you have to Break it off  :) Imhopep did not show that  :)

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #102 on: February 18, 2009, 01:13:13 AM »
@ All

I also bought a 48 volt fan today but it's only a 2 pole bifilar (see pic), anyone know if and how to go about wiring this fan?  The last 48 v fan I had was wrecked when I brought it to a shop to press out the shaft  ::)

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #103 on: February 18, 2009, 01:39:00 AM »
@gadgetmall
I already built a bedini from a 12 V computer fan so I know how to do it now.
But this 48 V motor I bought is wired different it definitely has only one strand going from coil to coil.
Also one end goes to a pin but the other end goes directly into the circuit board. 
Totally different setup from the 12V computer motor I modified.
Anyone else buying these motors should try peeking into the crack of the motor to make sure it is bifilar wound.
Because some of them are wound with only one strand. 

@gadgetmall did any of your 12 volt versions clearly show more output then input?
Mine definitely runs the battery down as it runs.
I tweeked the pot. for hours trying different settings and always seen the battery voltage keep  going down.
I bought a few larger 12V fans to try building another one, maybe a larger fan will put out more power.
I looked through the crack in the rotor of them and can see they have bifilar windings on them.
Princess auto only carries the one type of 48 volt  fan and  it's not bifilar wound.


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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #104 on: February 18, 2009, 02:23:55 AM »
@ All

I also bought a 48 volt fan today but it's only a 2 pole bifilar (see pic), anyone know if and how to go about wiring this fan?  The last 48 v fan I had was wrecked when I brought it to a shop to press out the shaft  ::)

Regards,
Paul
Ok . glad you got it apart . check the continuity on the two sets of wire . solder for the 4th wire so you have 4 post and two circuits . should work fine.It appears to have two windings because it has two colors of wire therefor its bifilar.
Al
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