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Author Topic: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!  (Read 174345 times)

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #75 on: February 15, 2009, 07:51:32 AM »
Hi Plengo and Gadgetmall,
please have a look at these 2 PDF Files I got from a researcher by email.

He also uses 2 LC circuits specially coupled and states that this works
like a Pommerlau system and it selfruns.

Maybe you can check this out, as your circuits are very simular now,

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Here is the main PDF File:
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and attached is a drawing from it and the other original PDF file.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #76 on: February 15, 2009, 09:29:44 AM »
Hi, This utube video by comwarrior69 will be off interest.He has a circuit which feeds back from the trigger coil and it also validates gadgetmalls claims. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY4pSOsqNvY
                                                                      regards jonnydavro

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #77 on: February 15, 2009, 04:03:00 PM »
this works like a Pommerlau system and it selfruns....
...or even a Pomerleau system, for those planing to use Google. (Daniel Pomerleau).

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #77 on: February 15, 2009, 04:03:00 PM »
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #78 on: February 15, 2009, 04:36:14 PM »
Thanks Johnny for the update . He told me he had replicated and it would blow My mind . This is yet another conformation that My Circuit works ! Keep at it  guys . This is one of the first FREE ENERGY DEVICES released to the Public  and being FULLY Described in Plain English and with the Help of My friend Pentgo he is giving a very good explanation with Scope Shots . thanks Pengo and others for helping Validate My Claim . I have one more SelfCharging /running Circuit i  will release after i take care of  Securing a Crude patent .and i am Proud to be the inventor of it (Well Bedini threw us a Chewed Bone). thanks all .
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2009, 04:40:40 PM »
Hi Plengo and Gadgetmall,
please have a look at these 2 PDF Files I got from a researcher by email.

He also uses 2 LC circuits specially coupled and states that this works
like a Pommerlau system and it selfruns.

Maybe you can check this out, as your circuits are very simular now,

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Here is the main PDF File:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get242

and attached is a drawing from it and the other original PDF file.
Thanks Stephan . Lucky for me i have My work Dated on open Source and a Copy Of the Schematics mail to me unopened and sealed last lear:)
« Last Edit: February 15, 2009, 10:05:12 PM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #80 on: February 15, 2009, 05:16:38 PM »
Although Comworrier69 is not attaining Ou  because of his  various test mods to My Circuit and Claim  . I achieve much better cop . probably COP 1-2  where as his replication is not using the Transistor and rectifiers nor the 48 volt fan  i  discovered the transistor breaks down on the Off Cycle of transistor because  of and High Bemf is triggering the base and leaking back thru the transistor in reverse .I am only Guessing but it is obvious to me that would be the only way the circuit will actually charge the battery  Hv is taking the path of least resistance which would be from the collector thur the emmiter thru the battery negative and return to the coil . The Voltage drop of My Diodes are much less than .5volts where his is 1.5 volts i believe he said ?

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2009, 11:31:15 PM »
some updates. I am running now with the FAN spinning. Target current is under 8ma (around 6 to 7.5 ma)  because it seams that my 100amp/h battery is not that conditioned as gadgetmall is. I used this battery for my 200 load tests SSG Bedini circuit last year during the Monopole3 staging process so it somehow conditioned but not enough yet.

After running this for the last 12 hours it is very clear to me that it is possible to have the radiant spike generate enough positive electricity to run the FAN and keep the battery voltage level steady or even increase. Also as it runs I can also see that the battery is only getting better at it.

Now, I have the fan spinning at around 264 rpm and it is creating about 700 pulses or radiant spikes per rotation plus the two reciprocal waves I shown on previous posts. The battery is still running down about .01v every 3 hours or so, BUT, if I disconnect the circuit and wait 2 to 5 minutes max and connect it again the voltage is back to where It was when I started. I have been doing this process the whole day and the battery is still sitting at the same voltage of this morning and the FAN is spinning constantly.

So rough calculation of 7ma average at 12.10v for 12 hours gives me 1 watt/hour roughly (please correct my bad calculations anyone :) ). It is not much but it is enough to see it dropping the voltage of this particular battery during tests.

Tunning the resistor at the base of the transistor is the the most tedious step because one has to wait and see if the fan will not accelerate too much and use too much current or slowly reduce speed until stops which could be around 5 or 10 minutes later. It seams that I got the correct setting that balances the weight of the fan, its speed and current consumption at its minimum to a perfect balance. I also removed the capacitor C2 (the one that receives the spikes) so that the spikes goes directly to the battery without being converted into positive electricity first.

I can, based on my data so far, see how much possible is in having a very well conditioned battery (such as gadgetmall's battery apparently) to not only run this but also charge as it receives the radiant spikes, may be even to the point of increasing the current consumption to above 8ma possibly 20ma. BTW at 20ma you will have the FAN spinning at 1500 rpm easily.

@gadgetmall

would be possible for you to give more accurate info about the current consumption you have and speed of the fan? would be possible to make a new video showing closely the SOUND of that fan pulsating (for me it would tell a lot because I can tune my fan by the sound of its pulses)? Also could you tell me the exact resistance you have on the pot when you have the system well tune? and the correct capacitor value on the base of the transistor?

@ALL,

for those that are still not believing this, I highly would advice spending some time on this little circuit because it is really tricky but definitely possible to have it running at least in oscilation mode and charging a battery at the same time. The 48volts fan is very cheap (gadgetmall showed a link to a seller a few pages before). I got 3 for the total of $12 including shipping.

There is definitely something going on here and it is not a matter of too big battery or faulty measurements, or not knowing how to measure input versus output, no, this can not get simpler than it is. Get a regular small 12 volts wet lead acid battery. Smaller better so you can see the results faster. SLAs or GEL cells WILL NOT WORK. They simply dry up with radiant spikes ( I already destroyed 4 of those ).

There is not need to measure the input versus output really because both are one and the same, the perfect closed loop perpertual circuit that we ALL are looking for. No need to worry about those RF signals and their difficulty with DMMs and all that sweet talk I hear in every thread. All one needs is patience and some multimeters to measure the drop of the voltage as you run the circuit on a day or few days. It does not matter if even in the end you have only ghost voltage on the battery as long as the fan is spinning and the voltage does not drop by the end of the day!

It would really be good to have some good brains here with time in their hands. If this is really what I am seeing there is a great potentitial because Bedini has already shown the level of scalability his monopole got (in his EFV DVD he has one running and generating about 1200 watts of power). So, this circuit is pretty much the same as Bedini's SSG therefore scalable.

Fausto.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #82 on: February 16, 2009, 12:40:57 AM »
Hi Fausto,
nice results.

But 7 mA are not much for a big 12 Volts battery.
So as batteries are very nonlinear with their voltage to
charge state, maybe try to measure the gravitation
of the acid with an gravitation meter.
So you can see, if it will get less charged over a few days.

Yes you are correct in 12 hours you have drawn about 1 Watthours
of energy from the battery and you still say, that it has dropped its voltage,
but surely this is a way to use batteries much longer, small currents and
use the radiant spike recharge effect.

Maybe you are also using this way stimulated radioactive decay as some lead isotopes radiate some
beta decay and thus increase the battery energy ?
Could be.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #83 on: February 16, 2009, 03:29:07 AM »
@hartiberlin
very interesting this Daniel guy. Do you have any more info about him and his shows?

@ALL

my test circuit is attached. It has been running since last morning with NO voltage drop whatsoever. A steady 266 rpm and 7.8ma average consumption. Signal is still the same as before with about 700 pulses per magnet pass plus the two reciprocal waves. I added a capacitor cross the emittor/collector of the transistor pnp 3904. I also removed the 470uf 200v capacitor that gadgetmall inserted to let the radiant spikes to go directly to the battery ( I think I stated that already before ).

I am very , very, very happy that for a full 48 hours my battery has not changed its voltage at all despite the 7ma consumption. This battery is actually a 795 cold cranking amps battery (I have no idea how much is that in amp/hours really, I just thought my battery was a 100amp/hour for some strange reason). I know that 7ma this battery can go on for a long time, BUT i have also done over 200 load tests on this baby and I KNOW even with this small current I can change its voltage to one tenth of a volt in about 2 or 3 hours easily on 7ma. SO, it is working somehow.

We will see if it will stand the time. I think if it runs like this for one week there will be no doubt this is really indeed regenerating its own power.

I have to buy a very small wet lead acid battery but I could not find one in the net. If anyone know where I can buy one cheap that is around 2 to 5 amp/hours max it would be great so that I can test this more speedly.

Fausto.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #84 on: February 16, 2009, 04:02:39 AM »
Hi Fausto,
try to use ba faster diode instead of the 1N4007,
better also use a 1N5408, cause they will conduct
the radiant spikes much faster.

The 1N4007 are only good for low frequency applications
like 50 / 60 Hz systems...


Regarding the Pomerleau PDF file from
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See the PDF file.
If you discribe this system with 2 equations (one for 1=Serial LRC and another
for 2=Paralel RLC WITH the interaction by Capacitor and by coil, you will see
that in the loop RL of 2 you can have PERMANENT CURENT (AC or DC) witch works
WITHOUT battery. By a similar interaction system, atoms works in permanent mode,
and supraconductivity works in permanent mode with cooper par.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #85 on: February 16, 2009, 05:17:32 AM »
@hartiberlin

thank you Stefan for the tips. I did try in my "1000 variations" of this circuit to use the n5408 diode instead of the n4007 and surprisingly enough I also thought as you BUT it did not work at all. Do you see my 5 diodes in series they are noway even close to the characteristics of the SK3606 that I could find on the net. My conclusion (most probably wrong and non-expert) is that radiant likes low frequency and resistance better than positive electricity, therefore the 5 diodes works better in their "resistance" level at a whole for the radiant (taking in consideration that radiant does not flow inline or even in the same direction, necessarily,  of the regular electricity :).

The 4007 diode is only good to let the BEMF flow but it is horrible for the radiant (no wonder Bedini puts that one on the SSG monopole for everyone, off course limiting the COP that people can get in purpose - well stated in their forum). In other words I agree with you BUT my testing shows the opposite.

The only place I used a ultra-fast diode the mru1100 was in place of the new capacitor cross the transistor emittor/collector which worked very, very well, BUT the capacitor still gave me the best results.

As of now that I type I still have a FAN running with the voltage on the battery being the same BUT now I have a new problem... my fan is accelerating and therefore increasing the current consumption which WILL KILL the system so I have to watch it closely to avoid that.

@ALL,

so until now I do have a running system with no visible measurable voltage decrease anywhere. I do have an excess energy manifesting itself in the FAN speed and that IS A PROBLEM. Let me explain better. I fell to mention before that to get this thing running correctly one can not just spin the fan and let the system run, one MUST spin the fan with the minimum consumption of current as possible ( and this is not only because the  the battery being able to charge at that rate only - I will explain that later ) and least spinning as possible. If one gets the fan to speed up to, lets say above 500 rpm, it will simply waiste too much energy and not generate the radiant spikes, one will find that the system is now in the best speed mode but not necesserely in the best re-generation mode. Currently my system was spinning at 266rpm and now accellerated to 277rpm.

The reason of the minimum current consumption is not only because the battery, being not conditoned well, will not re-generation enough energy to recuperate the used energy, it is MOSTLY because positive electricity will EAT UP all the radiant energy. Radiant comes first and current comes right after. Tesla stated that, Bedini and many others.

So, having this system running with too much current will at some point just kill all the possibility of any radiant energy appearing and therefore having the COP we all want.

Please dont kill me for this statement of mine now: I think that for every 12 volts 10ma one creates, one can get 100 to 200 volts scoped measure radiant energy, anything above that power ratio will only deplete or kill the potential radiant energy visible to use. That ratio will be also proportinal to speed or frequency. In other words, faster more voltage and current one can use to manufacture radiant, slower, much slower we get at that 12v by 10ma stated before. Am I craizy????!!!!

We need help here with experimenteers!!!

Fausto.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #86 on: February 16, 2009, 06:09:49 AM »
Hi Fausto,
I see, strange effects.

Can you please show a picture, which shows exactly the fan and how you modified
the windings, so that it looks now like a transformer ?
Maybe you can put a small light bulb in series with some
fan windings, so if the current raises, then the bulb will conduct
less as it heats up the filament, so the bulb resistance increases ?

Would be a simple control mechanism..

Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #87 on: February 16, 2009, 08:12:35 AM »
@hartiberlin

tomorrow morning I will take pictures of a brand new FAN being modified as you asked, after all I bought 3 exactly for that.  This other fan is identical to the one running. I can not open the one running because once you open it you will break it and you must glue it together and this is my only running prototype, but it was in my plans anyway to replicate this 3 times and from the second time on have plenty of pictures, movies and descriptions of the process.

BTW, fan still spinning and I got a little run away once I bypassed the amp meter. Fan accelerated to 300rpm and current increase ( I think, because the amp meter is off ), voltage on the battery dropped instantaneously 0.01v. I get desperate (this is my baby :) ), I removed the bypass, put the amp meter back and rpm dropped to 266-270rpm and voltage instantaneously was raised back 0.01v, amazing.

For a moment I thought I lost my setup context and I would have to start all over again. You see, I am trying to keep this one context (setup speed, current consumption, electronic parts, wirering and so forth unchanged so that only one variable is in place, just as science requests).

I hope everyone understand that I am being honest about this setup and if it FAILS I will also be honest and let everyone knows what the outcome is, going up or down. Right now, I am very happy that my battery after over 54hours has not dropped voltage (except for that incident above but came back to where it was) and this is impressive for me at least the knows that battery very well.

Cross fingers guys.

Fausto.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #88 on: February 16, 2009, 01:00:09 PM »
@hartiberlin

tomorrow morning I will take pictures of a brand new FAN being modified as you asked, after all I bought 3 exactly for that.  This other fan is identical to the one running. I can not open the one running because once you open it you will break it and you must glue it together and this is my only running prototype, but it was in my plans anyway to replicate this 3 times and from the second time on have plenty of pictures, movies and descriptions of the process.

BTW, fan still spinning and I got a little run away once I bypassed the amp meter. Fan accelerated to 300rpm and current increase ( I think, because the amp meter is off ), voltage on the battery dropped instantaneously 0.01v. I get desperate (this is my baby :) ), I removed the bypass, put the amp meter back and rpm dropped to 266-270rpm and voltage instantaneously was raised back 0.01v, amazing.

For a moment I thought I lost my setup context and I would have to start all over again. You see, I am trying to keep this one context (setup speed, current consumption, electronic parts, wirering and so forth unchanged so that only one variable is in place, just as science requests).

I hope everyone understand that I am being honest about this setup and if it FAILS I will also be honest and let everyone knows what the outcome is, going up or down. Right now, I am very happy that my battery after over 54hours has not dropped voltage (except for that incident above but came back to where it was) and this is impressive for me at least the knows that battery very well.

Cross fingers guys.

Fausto.
Fasto here is the sound your requested of My powersupplybedini . It is a wav . About Halfway i take the output lead off then put it back on .. then at the end i slightly move the pot .
 I might add that No one expects you to lie on my behalf . I Don't know you  . I would be skeptical too . However i have been in this free energy Projects  way before 1989 . You don't believe me . Have a look at the bottom of My Screen with the dipalma quote . there you will see me begging for some clicks on My web site ADS. on there is some correspondences from a friend of mine . Barbara Hickcox and her patent . i have access to the full patent and plans that sell for $100,000.00 dollars . i will never give them away for free . .Nor  will not sell them . and she was in this when Howard Hughes was alive . You have been here on this forum longer than me . I know its Strange that all of the sudden someone pops up with all these selfrunners and claims of overunity but its time SOMEBODY Steps up to the Plate . there are way more inventors out there with Much better things than i have . I am Concentrating on Small Stuff with the Lowest Possible input Current Circuits and to produce Very Long Run Times and high outputs  . I now have several Circuits of which are public . If you get them to work for you great if not Don't you Dare Insinuate i am Lying to you . I am Sharing My results . I really don't care if you get it or not . Doesn't Matter . I got it that's what Counts to me  :) I have several Degrees but I am Not Dr. Stiffler . I understand he is a Pain in the ass and wants to delete every post that offends him in some way . I think he is a SNOT . PLUS his experiments prove nothing that i have seen except you can take a Sig generator and feed a signal; in something and get some power out of it . Whoopee . I can do that with My pulse Generator . input a  .5 Volt pulse at a Set frequency into any LC circuit and you will get more out than in .Cold Electricity we got fugoi. No we Cant light a incandescent lamp under water becaus ewe dont have a 1000 dollar special signal generator . I don't see what the fuss is about .And yea He uses unusual parts that contain Barium and Radioactive Ferrite and has 10's of thousands of dollars of test equipment  and all his Fancy Math . Makes it look real good .If its Something Worth Having Be open about it and Share it offer to sell it or what ever . Well It make me look Like the Pig Farmer that invented the time Machine :) 
So you tell it like you see it Fasto  . I gave all i can give for free . Take it or Leave . Its Like God in a way Some will receive his Glory  some won't (Bad example i know but its true ). Well i hope your see what i see thats all . I already see that the fans are different resistance . So one has more windings that the other i guess production was not perfect that why they are so cheap i guess? Lucky for me .the way i see it unity is easy as pie . I don't know why others dont see it . I have a lot of time on my hands now i guess and while Baby is in School every day i piddle and put a part here and there and WALA ! I don't Necessarily go by standard Circuit Building . I think outside the box . Maybe its a gift i got after My Anurisium .Maybe its because i am not afraid to Die like all the other Free Energy Inventors that got Scared away or Killed . I just know It's time someone DID SOMETHING Worth a Flip .   
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #89 on: February 16, 2009, 03:54:41 PM »
@gadgetmall,

thank you Al, I really appreciate your openness and willing to share your inventions. I never doubt you not even when I only saw your videos in youtube, I guess it pays to thrust people first.

The sound is SOOOOOooo helpfull, I can in my first analysis see that you are definitely having many more pulses per rotation than I have and is also spinning sligthly slower than mine.  As you said, the resistance of your coil might be different. Hopefully my next fan will be better.

My system is running good. It did drop today 0.01v but, as I said before, turn off the system, let it rest for 5 minutes and back to where it was and running again. I think my system is still not well tuned as yours. I will get there.

Fausto.



 

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