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Author Topic: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!  (Read 174577 times)

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #345 on: November 07, 2009, 10:13:07 PM »
Hi gadgetmall I saw your website very nice best regards. I'm still trying to work out that battery swapper >:( ;D.
So is it possible to use a 12v relay instead of using a 5vrelay than attached to 12v one?
Thanks for your circuits.
Hi . No you still need the 5 v relay but what you do is use the 5 volt relay to control a second 12 volt relay with its own coil supply using the primary source if its 12 volts . In other words use the 5 v relay as a switch to turn on the 12 olt . that swapper is a circuit i made for swapping Very low voltage circuits like a Joule thief that charges another battery . I have improved it with better components for a device i will sell Next Year called the Infinity Cube . Auto switching Light Source that continues to run indefinitely.right now i have a version 2 E-light that has a three position Switch and uses special coils and Fets to light up three 20 milliamp leds and create an Excess Charge of 10 volts 5 Milli ampere all from a 1.2 volt battery drawing 5-10 milliamps adjustable . Other projects are a small retor fit device to put on light bulbs and produce light after the AC to the house light is off . using Tophat Pure white 1 watt leds ,Solar cell and Supercaps and a special JT that runs on 0 .11 milliamps and 0.20 to 2.7 volts .  thanks

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #345 on: November 07, 2009, 10:13:07 PM »

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #346 on: November 08, 2009, 09:43:14 AM »
Hi Gadget
I noticed that on your schematic, FushionchipFeedBackToSource002, you use on your bifilar no 16 and 20 wire. Is that 16 and 20 awg?
IT is surely then very thick wire for your drive coil. With 500 turns the resistance must be very low. Is it not difficult to get the input current to under 20mA with these thick wires when you run the rotor or even with the cap switched in to chance it to solid state?
You also mentioned somewhere that the Hfe of the transistor should be high. I checked the gains of the transistor that Bedini uses and they are low.
I am currently switching the positive and uses a 2sb1375 pnp with a gain of  320 where the 2n3055 that is used by everybody only has a Hfe of 20
The circuit for using a pnp are nearly the same. You only swop the 2 battery polarities and the 2 diode polarities. Your charge diode and the diode on the base.
The only thing I still have to do is to turn a new bifilar coil with this thick wires.
Can that be the secret to your setup?

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #347 on: November 08, 2009, 08:26:32 PM »
Hi Gadget
I noticed that on your schematic, FushionchipFeedBackToSource002, you use on your bifilar no 16 and 20 wire. Is that 16 and 20 awg?
IT is surely then very thick wire for your drive coil. With 500 turns the resistance must be very low. Is it not difficult to get the input current to under 20mA with these thick wires when you run the rotor or even with the cap switched in to chance it to solid state?
You also mentioned somewhere that the Hfe of the transistor should be high. I checked the gains of the transistor that Bedini uses and they are low.
I am currently switching the positive and uses a 2sb1375 pnp with a gain of  320 where the 2n3055 that is used by everybody only has a Hfe of 20
The circuit for using a pnp are nearly the same. You only swop the 2 battery polarities and the 2 diode polarities. Your charge diode and the diode on the base.
The only thing I still have to do is to turn a new bifilar coil with this thick wires.
Can that be the secret to your setup?
Hi i am not sure but i use thick wires . The secret on My piggy back coil system is to extend the main coils Core to allow many coils to slip over that core . Lots of energy from the back of My coil . I could probably put a foot of welding rods sticking out the back of my main coil and hang 10 coils off the back ,each producing its own volts all without and Lenz law affect to the main rotor !!This is one way i have achieved a self running Over the unity bedini . Dont listen to what Bedini says . Its to throw us off . I things like feedback from the secondary directly to the primary source . He says it cant be done with SG replication . I say and a handful of others thats not true. Transistor Amplification and switching times are important in some other fan Bedinis i have built .

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #347 on: November 08, 2009, 08:26:32 PM »
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #348 on: November 09, 2009, 12:37:47 AM »
is dhis run?
Dimensions: 203×50×48 mm
Supply voltage app: 48 V dc
Power consumption: 7 W
Capacity: 75 m³/h
Bearing: Ball
Sound pressure level: 48 dBA
Pressure: ≤62 Pa
Type tech: Tangential
Rotational speed: 4300 r/min

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #349 on: November 09, 2009, 12:39:06 AM »
or this?

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #349 on: November 09, 2009, 12:39:06 AM »
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #350 on: November 09, 2009, 12:40:51 AM »
Which  engine is better ?

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #351 on: November 09, 2009, 01:35:12 AM »
or this?
I have not experimented with this type of motor . All mine say Brushless DC on the back . When I open them By taking the rotor off with a small c clamp under the sticker and take the blades off there are 4 individual coils and a ring magnet in the hub of the blade.

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Search for Imhotep on youtube and there is an instructional video for computer powersupply fans to modify them . All Computer power supplies have Dc brushless fans also but they are 12 volts . a good start .

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #351 on: November 09, 2009, 01:35:12 AM »
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #352 on: November 09, 2009, 02:04:44 PM »
Hi i am not sure but i use thick wires .
gadget
Is it easy to get the input current under 20ma when running the rotor with this thick wires?

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #353 on: November 11, 2009, 08:57:03 PM »
Hi Magone I think you can run that motor but it has to be rewinded if you're trying an imhotep fun.
I had winded one in the past;one clockwise and the other unticlockwise regarding windings.
Bye bye


Can you run this motor?

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #353 on: November 11, 2009, 08:57:03 PM »
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #354 on: January 29, 2010, 04:05:53 PM »
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #355 on: February 19, 2010, 05:21:15 AM »
Looks like to me old tvs and stereos plus old computers would be a good source of parts to build these bedini fan motor/generators.triffid

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #355 on: February 19, 2010, 05:21:15 AM »
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #356 on: April 21, 2010, 01:06:55 AM »
hey guys, I'm in the proses of gathering the things up i need to try this out, but i ran across a vary interesting fan and need some input. This fan is 12vdc it looks like 2  Bifialar coils windings, i have never ran across fan like this, could this be something to test with or is it just not going to work at all? any input would be grate. Thanks, Russ

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #357 on: April 21, 2010, 03:31:55 AM »
@shabamsev,

Does this motor have permanent magnets in the fan
rotor? If it does then I guess it could be a two coil
DC motor rather then the usual four.  It would use
the armature iron metal to couple the magfield into
the correct spots. One coil could be used as the Bedini
sense coil and the other used for the drive coil. You
may need to add another wire connection if the one
common connection is not in the correct place for
the Bedini circuit.

If there are no permanent magnets in the rotor it could
be AC motor drive synthesised by the IC. In which case
it would not be a feasible bedini conversion.

:S:MarkSCoffman

 

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