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Author Topic: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!  (Read 174343 times)

Offline innovation_station

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2009, 06:10:14 PM »
so now it does get VERRY INTRESTING....  ;D

sure more answers     why not ...


i have in the past found solutions for mercury .... non toxic ....

lol

but lets ask why murcury would aid this process if it were nontoxic ...

 ;D

anyone ever study BRUCE DEPALMA.....  THE N MACHINE.....  ;)

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 05:26:42 AM »
@IST
    Hey  William  :o .."If you can imagine it,
 it's imaginable -if it's imaginable, it must be real."
- Bruce DePalma, 1997 .Welcome  8) can you contact me about what we discussed > i need some projects and some Help as im out a something and need to talk  Thanks Bro . ..
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 04:03:42 PM »
@All. i Discovered an interesting thing with some of my Bediniepowersupply Energizers . .. two of them will feed back to them selves and charge themselves . Thats all they do is run the fan . Its like a Toy .I use the positive output wire only ! not the negative ! the negative will be a direct short !! Check the Video I made a while back on the First Bedini Power Supply I made and discovered everything to build one in in a ATX PC powersupply to build a Bedini ..with the help of imhotem modification to the Fans . I just finished My 9th one last night and put the positive output lead to the positive running primary .Remember NOT THE NEGATIVE OUTPUT WIRE TO THE NEGITIVE PRIMARY (DIRECT BATTERY SHORT )  it slowed down but keeps running and recharges the battery all night ,Im making a video of this now .. The new one i build with a large 48 volt brush less fan but the video not made yet  .. Now john Bedini said you couldn't do this . He was wrong or either misleading us to believe that and as for following his EXACT instructions , that is a load of CRAP . Just use his Basic circuit design and use what you have . you will achieve the results and possible Better like i did ..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyPxMgqaId8
« Last Edit: January 21, 2009, 11:31:48 PM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2009, 04:05:51 AM »
The  Video of My 48 volt FAN Bedinipowersupply self runner is uploading now !!

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2009, 04:25:08 AM »
Ohm's law:

v = i * r

v = voltage
i = current
r = resistance

It doesn't matter what you do. If you increase the voltage the current will decrease. Your better off trying to recover energy from something that already exists like building a solar oven to create steam.

You'll never get any of the things on this site to work due to ohm's law. Please start looking in other directions that can get results! Don't waste your ambition!  :-\

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2009, 05:41:24 AM »
@sandwichx

Thanks for stating the obvious , The only problem a got with that law is there is no time factor.

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2009, 09:01:10 PM »
 Hello SandwhichX 
             Your old Laws Don't apply to this Project But they do on other things . Its all ready built and working . This Is Unconventional Physics where there is more involved not even including the Free Energy we can Capture off the Free Spinning Magnets .. Have you Built One ? We are Not " Wasting Time" On this forum . There are some Brilliant Minds at work Here . Read and Listen and you may Learn Something !

Here the New Video . It took a While cause Windows Media Player kept Crashing and Internet was Lost Several Times ..
Explain This Sandwhich !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbSV-BqGnYw
« Last Edit: January 22, 2009, 10:32:52 PM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2009, 01:53:59 AM »
Here is the Back of the Fan. I have three of them . They are not onsale anymore and are out of stock so no part number now . Sorry .. Heres the schematic .. I found some more on the internet and they are CHEAP 1.75US http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/220100/Fans/D.C.-Fans/1.html
« Last Edit: January 23, 2009, 04:15:20 AM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2009, 07:06:43 AM »
Hats off to you gadgetmall  :o

After seeing your post to Utube and the schematic I gave your video a 5  ;D

As usual though, and I hate to be a pain in the A$$ but, future OU truth seekers like me will need a couple of questions cleared up eventually, so to clear things up in the future here goes....

From the schematic above at: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6519.msg152301#msg152301

What is the Transistor model and specs?
What is the Capacitor model and specs?
What is the resistor model and specs?
What is the Rehostat model and specs?

How was the motor modified?  (A Bedini/Imhotep fan tutorial with pictures is needed here! 
Help from Anyone interested in contribution is greatly appreciated). 

Can you tie this circuit to the battery then to a JT circuit to get continuous load on the battery so that it doesn't fry?....LOL...if so how many LED's?

Regars,
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2009, 08:46:58 AM »
@Goat
     Hey . I have been asked to do lots of things with this . My only thought was to set it on a shelf and let it click until the battery fried :) BUT i will probably put a voltage Divider on it and run a Joule Thief with 40 or 50 Leds and Check the results after a week or so . All the parts were in a grab box from Goldmine electronics .. Nothing special . I have two more fans exactly like them and i am going to build two more and most likely use different parts , what i got laying around and see if i get the same results . The Special thing about this one is the FAN . It is Bigger and has lots more wire on them  AND the Diode on the Primary , thats all there is to the big Secret . . When i get the time i'll get ma Magnifier out and tear it apart and get what i can but it aint going to make no difference i don't think . How is that Piggy back coil coming ?Let us know . I know anyone can do this one as the parts are there to get .. no biggi on the transistor use any npn with a low base high gain high volts ... I put the Neon on it cause it charges up a cap a couple hundred volts kinda quick and so again the neon keeps the volts down . I guess i was lucky the transistor dosnt go from all the spiking i do with it jumping the out to in . POW!! But it Runs and Runs .. .. As far as the battery i could probably start a moped with it a couple times and run a few thousand led or run an inverter for an hour or so but Im only guessing .. :)I have played with it all night long and today and the battery is still 13.78 so its defiantly receiving a charge from the fan .It Squeaks its little heart out . One thing is i broke the little ring that hold the fan on and its being held on by its own magnitisium . It was made of paper or something and tore in half so i just left it out . It stays its own fine ASfar as the Mod to the fan its standard . I don't have permission to post any picture from the imhotep lab but you can see here from My how to make a PowersupplyBedini Video where i Bust a fan to PIECES and Put it all back together  :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSdM4J44Q3o  I had to break the 48 volt fan of the base and glue it back . i don't know where imhotep gets his fans from cause out of nine i never saw one that just Slid off . they are glued and don't move !you have to break them from the plastic case ..
Al
« Last Edit: January 23, 2009, 08:48:53 PM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2009, 10:10:27 PM »
Hi Al

Ok so I finally found that roll of wire and it is 34 gauge but there's less than 1/2 pound left, so I'm not sure how it compares in weight to your coil. 

I have an old coil from an older Bedini setup that's Bifilar 22/26 AWG, 2" X 2" with 3/4" center hole and approximately 750 turns and the 1/16" brazing rods are sticking out about 1/2".   

I went to town today but unfortunately the only store in town that carries magnet wire didn't have 34 or 32 gauge so I'll have to go with what I got for now. 

On the bright side though I was at another store that carries a bit of surplus fan motors and I found an NMB 48 Volt fan motor!  It's not quite like yours though, it has a speed sensor on it but there are 3 wires going into the motor like yours, the model number is NMB5920PL-07W-B49.

I really wish we had Goldmine electronics stores here in Canada, most of the time you have to drive to several stores to get what you need at exorbitant prices, I really envy you guys in the states for that hahahaha.

Anyone know of decent surplus electronics stores here in Ottawa?...LOL

Ok so here's a snapshot of the motor with the fan off of it, the coils are serially wound from what I'm seeing and the stator seems to be glued onto the shaft.  I got the interior snap ring out but it still won't budge.

How did you manage to pull your stator out, was it by leveraging the PCB (printed circuit board) with a screwdriver or am I missing something here? 

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2009, 01:16:37 AM »
Goat  broke it out with a screwdriver . they are Glued in all of them i have seen f you look at the video i posted a few posts up about how to build a powersupply bedini  i first break the circuit board as much as i can with a screwdriver  becareful not to break the three legs off as they have the litle wires on them once you see the base i break it off by rocking it back and forth till i get it to break out usually it breaks right around the hole but sometimes you break the case too .you cannot get it off without breaking the base that is glued to the case so some of the casing is coming with it and you have to breakit so you can add the post to the bottom . there is no way around it as they ARE GLUED WITH SUPER SUPER GLUE i used goop to glue em back and add the post as there was hardly no where to put the 4th post .  the link i provided the fans you can order then online .. 1/2 of pound of 34 should be close to a mile  . i think a pound of 32 is a little over a mile  5280 some feet
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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2009, 03:36:43 AM »
gadgetmall thanks for the answers but I was referring to the 48 volt fan, I pried the circuit loose from the base but the rotor is still firmly in place  :P

Regards,
Paul


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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2009, 05:32:53 AM »
@ gadgetmall

I've analyzed this fan for a couple of hours while doing other things and it's not like the little plastic fans and won't pry out :P

Looks like the only way to get the rotor off is to punch out the stator shaft from the base and press it back in.

Let me know if there's a better way.

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2009, 06:09:12 AM »
paul you don't understand . BREAK IT OFF . there is no way to punch it out . there is or was when it was made a piece of plactic from the case that they slid thecoil on and glued it . DID YOU even look at my video ? If you did you would see that you have to BREAK it . CRACK it Just GRAB the COILS AND ROCK IT BACH AND FORTH HARD UNTIL IT SNAPS THE PLASTIC OFF THE BACK OF THE FAN . if you do it like i did the 48 volt fan you will only break a little off the back  if you did it like my video you will have bunches of plactic to glue back  :) Don't look at IMHOTEPS video because i didnt learn nothing from it . once you break it off there is one post with two wires on it you will have to separate them and add the extra post for the extra wire . ohm em out and mark the sets and your good to go . the only other way to get it off is use a dremal tool and cut around the hole in back but then you wont have nothing there to glue it back.A gash you will have to fill un some how . I break them and the glue back easy look at the back of the fan you see that copper that looks like its punched it . its not it holds the berring for the back part of the roter . you will have to break the plactic around copper . I grab the coil and snap it off having to flu only the part on the back i snapped off which is the rotor plus the little of the case that broke with it . It will Align perfectly if you are careful and rick it until you see the plastic on back start to stress and turn with then snap it off.!!!!
« Last Edit: January 25, 2009, 06:30:40 AM by gadgetmall »

 

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