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Author Topic: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite  (Read 39155 times)

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2009, 02:05:54 AM »
Hi ALL,
I did now enable the Karma system in the Forum software.

This is a feature where you can vote on another user,
if you like his postings or not.

I finally enabled this, as many users complained about other
users hijacking their threads and posting totally unrelated things, etc...

The voting is anonymous, so nobody knows who has
voted positively or negatively.

So be nice and don´t abuse this feature.

If a user gets too many total negative Karma votes,
he will be put on ReadOnly mode.

Also I will enforce, that nobody will
register with a second anonymous username to play games
and tricks with other users.

So please be gentle and stay ontopic and don´t abuse the
forum. Then your Karma will also be going positive.

So this will be member based rating system of other members
and will help to ban trolls and offtopic and annoying posters.

P.S. You can only rate others, if you have already posted 20 postings,
so just registering a new account and smite  other users will not work
and if ou try to do this you also will be catched and banned this way.

Regards. Stefan. (admin)


@ Stefan:

I applaud your enforcement of the multiple user name ban.  There are still folks here doing exactly this and I believe it undermines the integrity of the forum itself.  After all, you build a reputation on any forum, good or bad, by your behavior or lack thereof.  As in life, this reputation should follow you around in the forum.

Stefan, I think this should be a topic all of its own.  (even a locked one)  to warn the multiple user name folks that it is time to stop.  I have done some research and I believe I know who most of them are.  Thanks.

Bill

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2009, 02:05:54 AM »

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2009, 02:14:48 AM »
Bill
I'm not sure Stefan would be interested in limiting members[one address can have several members]
I myself have never posted under any other name
As long as Stefan has the IP's there is no way to abuse and get away with it
Chet

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2009, 02:23:32 AM »
@ Chet:

Sure there is.  My IP address changes on here about every other time I log on.  IP addresses do change on a regular basis.

Stefan said he was going to do this already anyway and I was just agreeing with him.  There are other ways to track folks and I am sure Stefan knows how to do this.   I understand what you say about multiple users from one household, but Stefan can tell that also. (There are several ways) I agree that a husband and wife, or whatever, should be allowed to have access and I am sure that will still be ok.

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2009, 02:23:32 AM »
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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2009, 02:31:13 AM »
Bill
I really don't think this part means no secret identities
 Quote

Also I will enforce, that nobody will
register with a second anonymous username to play games
and tricks with other users.

Seems to imply no secret ID to cause mischief
 Chet
PS I had no idea about the address thing changing

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2009, 02:59:04 AM »
As long as Stefan has the IP's there is no way to abuse and get away with it

IP addresses do change on a regular basis.

IP addresses do change, but your block address wont when using the same cable, your IP will always be selected from one of many in your designated IP block.

But employing IP block address blacklisting does not cure all because anyone can just use a proxy server. Also if someone on the same block as a banned user tries to sign up then they will not be able to.

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2009, 02:59:04 AM »
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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2009, 03:03:29 AM »
@ Chet:

You will have to ask Stefan what he meant by that.  It is possible that you are correct but that is not how I read it.

I see it is changed now but, we used to (maybe even a week ago or so) see our own IP address over top of our Avatar on the home page.  I started writing mine down each time I signed on because I thought I saw it was different but then thought maybe I was going crazy or something.  After writing it down each day for a week, I saw that it changed 5 times.  Stefan said in another post somewhere that this is common.  I am using no special "spoof" software to do this.

Bill

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2009, 07:06:57 AM »
@Stefan

I think this Karma thing it totally childish, unproductive and insultingly inaccurate and should be removed immediately. I am not here to be peg-posted by others and refuse to peg-post others. A simple click on a button is too easy. They have to also write WHY. Without a valid answer to WHY, this method is just totally bogus and means Z E R O. Sorry but I really think it should be removed right away before it creates such a bad atmosphere here that we will just leave and go somewhere else. I am not an experimental rat to me poked and prodded at every post.

How many karma points to be nominated for Prom King?  Can I trade them in for some free merchandise?
Maybe we should be forced to submit credit reports so that we can be ranked according to our credit score!

Or is it your intention to squash descent?  "Better post nothing but hugs and kisses - you think the moon is made of cheese?  I will give you love less I get smited!"

The feature is stupid, insulting, rude, and ignorant.
So there - I spoke my mind - expressing my negative opinion.....
Time for you guys to blast me with smites I guess!   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2009, 10:06:40 AM »
How many karma points to be nominated for Prom King?  Can I trade them in for some free merchandise?
Maybe we should be forced to submit credit reports so that we can be ranked according to our credit score!

Or is it your intention to squash descent?  "Better post nothing but hugs and kisses - you think the moon is made of cheese?  I will give you love less I get smited!"

The feature is stupid, insulting, rude, and ignorant.
So there - I spoke my mind - expressing my negative opinion.....
Time for you guys to blast me with smites I guess!   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

ROFLMAO  ....... Smite, smite, smite, smite..... KneeDeep  :D
Cheers Capt'n !

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2009, 01:05:47 PM »
Lol, the "Karma" thing!

Who can believe it in a forum like this?

Beside those who were "carefully saving" themselves (and their "reputation") in the last few days (Very smart move, i'd say...), some of us tried to disclose the idiotism of such a system ..

Most of the neg. hits -smites (the series of them!) were given by the "very organised and motivated" people and their groups... I personally scored 90% of a neg. rep. just after the mayhem call of just a one pearson, the "great Buzz"..

I've checked one of the most "fucked up and disilusional" groups - (that would be the "SaintBuzz" and his (few) followers!) Basically, there are just a three of them, plus a few occasional "bypassers"....

While their boss is a highly delusional, but very indoctrinated and decisive pearson, spreading mostly disinformation and HATE  , he is acting with accordance  with his eternal EGO principles.. THE TROLL OF THE WORST KIND...

He's enforcing a "one truth, myne truth" principle with a brute (and a very primitive) methods...

No proof for his claims of any kind, whatsoever. (!!!)
He has harmed many of the good people here. Imagine, the poor fecker appeared here just recently?  Whomever asked for a proof of any of his claims, he was chased to the limits....Who is against him, he's an unbeliever. And should be burned on the stake...

Yep, that's "TheBuzz". Chased off from the many forums, finding his "final" place here at last....

Farce...

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2009, 01:05:47 PM »
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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2009, 03:59:23 PM »
Lol, the "Karma" thing!

Who can believe it in a forum like this?

Beside those who were "carefully saving" themselves (and their "reputation") in the last few days (Very smart move, i'd say...), some of us tried to disclose the idiotism of such a system ..

Most of the neg. hits -smites (the series of them!) were given by the "very organised and motivated" people and their groups... I personally scored 90% of a neg. rep. just after the mayhem call of just a one pearson, the "great Buzz"..

I've checked one of the most "fucked up and disilusional" groups - (that would be the "SaintBuzz" and his (few) followers!) Basically, there are just a three of them, plus a few occasional "bypassers"....

While their boss is a highly delusional, but very indoctrinated and decisive pearson, spreading mostly disinformation and HATE  , he is acting with accordance  with his eternal EGO principles.. THE TROLL OF THE WORST KIND...

He's enforcing a "one truth, myne truth" principle with a brute (and a very primitive) methods...

No proof for his claims of any kind, whatsoever. (!!!)
He has harmed many of the good people here. Imagine, the poor fecker appeared here just recently?  Whomever asked for a proof of any of his claims, he was chased to the limits....Who is against him, he's an unbeliever. And should be burned on the stake...

Yep, that's "TheBuzz". Chased off from the many forums, finding his "final" place here at last....

Farce...

Well, what is next for the "trollers" now that the Karma thing backfired?   Interesting that is has never been activated until the Troll Army was exposed.

As for Saint Buzz's attempts to inform his fellow man if thnigs that you and your institution do not want to be made public, what have you done?  If you were all devoted researchers for the betterment of mankind, you would assist him.

You are not even a good troll.  Cee_eyI_Ay might have picked you up if you had about 50 more IQ points, but they don't like mediocre candidates, they want only the best - no identifying mark either, so birthmarks in view are out. 

If you were Jewish, you might try Mossad ( המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים ), especially since you are fluent in English and American manurisms - need to learn Hebrew though, which reads right to left and has a different alphabet.  There is this one guy that really had a distaste for Mossad, he keeps a beard to cover a scar on his throat - yeah, no love there.  Suspect he was some sort of rogue as he didn't like anyone.

Anyway, you trollers could learn something from the "Big Boys of Intel" - see, you don't supress, you get involved and you get close...

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2009, 04:41:42 PM »
Well, what is next for the "trollers" now that the Karma thing backfired?   Interesting that is has never been activated until the Troll Army was exposed.

As for Saint Buzz's attempts to inform his fellow man if thnigs that you and your institution do not want to be made public, what have you done?  If you were all devoted researchers for the betterment of mankind, you would assist him.

You are not even a good troll.  Cee_eyI_Ay might have picked you up if you had about 50 more IQ points, but they don't like mediocre candidates, they want only the best - no identifying mark either, so birthmarks in view are out. 

If you were Jewish, you might try Mossad ( המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים ), especially since you are fluent in English and American manurisms - need to learn Hebrew though, which reads right to left and has a different alphabet.  There is this one guy that really had a distaste for Mossad, he keeps a beard to cover a scar on his throat - yeah, no love there.  Suspect he was some sort of rogue as he didn't like anyone.

Anyway, you trollers could learn something from the "Big Boys of Intel" - see, you don't supress, you get involved and you get close...

You see, I always knew you were yust a Troll (!).

You were just a tool in the Buzz's hands, but you were not aware of that.... I feel sorry for you. Mr. TPU "god knows what... with many stars" .... ;D

Start to collect some real results.! Not just the wet dream fantasies!!!

(I remember some of your first, original questions made here, lol....)  ;D

So, are you going to play by the Buzz tune, or you'll sing your own? Little Fucker?
Troll...? ;D

Do you understand the Ohm's law? We can start with that for a beggining.... Later, we can revert to the "cold electricity" and so on...
 It seems you don't have much in common with the BASIC ELECTROTECHNICS.... Or Physics in general.....

No wander, you are The Last SAMURAI of the delusional "milk man", The SaintBuzz .....
The One who gave the most smites to anyone... Handy....

What's up? Little wiesel? ;D
The Supreme troll? (let's get straight, the Buzzer is just an annoyance.... I think you're the one who could show us a NEW PATH???)
 ;D
So?....





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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2009, 04:41:42 PM »
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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2009, 05:13:10 PM »
You see, I always knew you were yust a Troll (!).

You were just a tool in the Buzz's hands, but you were not aware of that.... I feel sorry for you. Mr. TPU "god knows what... with many stars" .... ;D

Start to collect some real results.! Not just the wet dream fantasies!!!

(I remember some of your first, original questions made here, lol....)  ;D

So, are you going to play by the Buzz tune, or you'll sing your own? Little Fucker?
Troll...? ;D

Do you understand the Ohm's law? We can start with that for a beggining.... Later, we can revert to the "cold electricity" and so on...
 It seems you don't have much in common with the BASIC ELECTROTECHNICS.... Or Physics in general.....

No wander, you are The Last SAMURAI of the delusional "milk man", The SaintBuzz .....
The One who gave the most smites to anyone... Handy....

What's up? Little wiesel? ;D
The Supreme troll? (let's get straight, the Buzzer is just an annoyance.... I think you're the one who could show us a NEW PATH???)
 ;D
So?....

That's all you got, punk?  That's your best?  Told you and your girls to get that CIA coercion guide - it's the best.  Least you can do is apply "The Art of War" - assuming you can understand it.  I'm sure at least one of your has a copy.

If you were "In The Know" and not just a pissing puppy, you would know that "Ohm's Law" was "extended".  Sit and spin on that propeller-hat-boy - that what a spinner really is!

"Cold electricity" is just induction with the vector sideways.  Maybe they didn't breif you on that part as you might screw it up trying to act like you know something about it, you know, with the low IQ and all they just couldn't take the risk. S_ar_s was briefed for sure, but then he is in the better group, much smarter, and has better skills - they can;t stand you girls, by the way.  You go around screwing everything up for them.  So, waht have you accomplished for the "program"? Nothing?   Come on now, get with it or they will let you go.   Hell, even I_S has a few infiltrations to boast about - all you have is a big mouth.

By the way, whoever hacked me recently and screwed with my keyboard can kiss my arse...

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2009, 05:34:49 PM »
I think just one look at this thread already shows, that the whole Karma-Thing doesn't work!

I personally would just implement an "report abuse" button, to report the real abuses to Stefan.
I think what many people here would declare an abuse is just a difference in opinion, and IMHO this is what such a forum is for. If we all have the same opinion, the same truth, it wouldn't make sense to discuss!

As long as we are not enlightened and really understand the why and how of all things, we just have a limited truth which may be very wrong. Sure everybody for himself thinks his truth is right, it has to be, otherwise it wouldn't be one's truth. But one must also see, that one's own truth has changed and still changes over time, so is it not logical, that one's current truth is not correct, or harder said that it has to be wrong! So why fight against each other, convincing one another, that his truth is the one and only real thing. This is just like the many religious wars which have been fought and are still going on...It just doesn't make sense...

Tolerance is the keyword.

People should understand, that having different opinions and even having sometimes hard discussions about them, has nothing to do with the persons themselves. Which means, if I have a different opinion, doesn't mean I think you're bad/an idiot/looser/...
IMHO too many people here take discussions about opinions/truths too personally. And as soon as they feel that they've been attacked they will smite...REVENGE!!!  ;D

I think the idea of this forum is to spread one's ideas to inspire other people, or get inspired by their ideas. Additionally other people can show the flaws in ones theories and vice versa...
So together we will be able to progress faster.
This is at least how I see it.

If people still wanna be able to distinguish people who contribute profound posts, one could introduce the thanking system like e.g. philosophy.org has. Which means, if you liked a post you thank this user for this post. So people which have been thanked a lot do get some reputation for their work.

« Last Edit: January 10, 2009, 05:55:56 PM by Shanti »

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2009, 05:54:01 PM »
Quote from: Shanti
I personally would just implement an "report abuse" button, to report the real abuses to Stefan.
I applaud you for that! :)   This forum is probably getting to much for one person to handle. Perhaps Stefan could give a few honest people moderator privileges to help him out. Isn't that how most forums eventually end up?

PL

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Re: Karma system enabled, applaud or smite
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2009, 07:28:52 PM »
 ??? Just posted a minor update to my "Towards Realizing the TPU" document, and received a smite shortly thereafter.

Can't say that's very encouraging at all.

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