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Author Topic: Question: What is the best way to disclose?  (Read 21476 times)

Offline rhombus24

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Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« on: January 06, 2009, 10:43:34 PM »
Hey everyone, I'm going to get to the point quickly and I am sorry If I leave you with questions.  First off, I have been researching the TPU for the past 2 years, almost 2 anyway.  All this time I have been using the information provided by you guys to help me along.  I have also done such an extensive amount of research it really is pretty amazing, at least for a kid my age.  I have always had an instinct that all of these FE machines had a simple explanation and that they were all closely, and I mean closely, related.  The theories have changed but I have finally found the truth.  Notice how I didn't say discovered, honestly none of these men ( Steven Marks, Edwin Gray, Moray, Bedini, Bearden, Searl, etc..) discovered the truth,  it really was the genius Nikola Tesla.

Like Marks said all along "It all goes back to Tesla."  Guys almost everyone's theory on this site is OVERLY complicated.  I know most of you know that the answer is simple, but the person that I think is on the best track is Pauldude.  He has it, he really does, actually most of you do, but you take the ideas and overly analyze them and make it so difficult.  Just a quick example: the arguments over whether the input signal is square wave or sine or how about whether the output is AC or DC.  OK albeit these are important, what everyone should be mainly focused and concerned with is HOW it works, its METHOD.

Tesla's the man!  I'm sorry I actually didn't get right to the point but that's because I know all of you would have dismissed my post as a newbie and took it with a grain of salt.  I know how this works, everything fits together, I have no questions, well some, but I truly know the truth.  All of the inventors I previously named created devices that all work off of this theory.

Look I do want to profit off of an invention like this so I will not tell you the exact theory (You guys know it anyway! You just haven't put it together).  I want to ask a very important question that I need to start thinking of, and if any of you think you are close you need to too. 

What is the best way to disclose information before a patent is filed?
Should it even be disclosed before a patent? Probably not since that would disqualify it anyway.
After a patent and after inventors have been gathered...

How can we put it out into the world so that it CANNOT BE SUPPRESSED!!!???

Youtube?
News Release?

And this question truly lies at the heart of the problem, I really don't like posting so please allow me to just lurk and post everyone in a while.  Please don't ask questions that would lead me to disclose the exact theory.  But by all means question my knowledge of the subject!

And my last note is that I am only 18 (just turned) and don't underestimate my knowledge that's why I WANT you to question me.

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 11:40:56 PM »
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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 11:54:02 PM »
The dichotomy is that the paradym change will be too expediant and cataclysmic for the commoners and too devastating for the financiers, warharks and the religious right.

Keep your head down and your mouth shut. The exit plan is to leave as quickly as you can without disturbing the status quo. They love their debt ridden complacency and are always willing to exact a payment should you stick your knowledge above the shit level of normality. I, for one, would love to see your acomplishments but not at the risk of safety. Truth does not rule on planet Earth. Sin does.

Join a service of your home county and see the world of havoc.

If you can make the leap in your present situation then by all means pursue.
I am in my 50s and made it my life's work to not go anywhere near the box.
I have succeeded, so it is not possible.

--giantkiller. Your only weapon is creativity and focus is your survival.

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 11:54:02 PM »
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Offline AhuraMazda

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 12:12:16 AM »
Assuming you have a working system, make a complete information pack, zip it up, prepare an email to addressed to as many people as you like. Make sure you target people and forums based on different countries. Go to an Internet cafe and create a new email account with ne information about yourseld and send your email. Ensure you name your file to something benign looking that no one looks at such as "the true story of sister theresa.zip!". Make your preperations before you execute your plan. All the emails are checked by the big brother but use your imagination.

I look forward to recieve "our holiday pictures.zip" or something similar!


Feel free to PM me if you want more ideas.

Offline Grumpy

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 12:13:02 AM »
A vast amount of good information has already been released several times by different people - underground - publicly - privately - discretely - and crypticly.  Most ignore it and the rest argue about it.  It's pretty simple to explain, not so simple to do.  Erfinder was doing a fine job and look how many shots he took on the chin before he left.  Spherics dropped a bomb and promptly departed - wise move.  Tao wrote a wonderful presentation - can anyone even find it now?  TheBuzz is at war with trolls while explaining cavitation, as we speak.  What about all the old-timers - Tesla, Roentgen, Rowland, Wilson, Thomson, and Helmholtz?  What about Grey, Marinov, DePalma, Muller, Adams, Hussain, Harmuth, Hutchison, Hazelton, and people that aren't even remembered?

The Cliff Hazelton device was successfully replicated and produced a hell of a lot of energy - more than anything on this site (except maybe that tetrahedral TPU thing) - and how many have ever even heard of it?  Almost none.  I only know of 3 people currently working to figure it out.

Unless I missed some significant "movement in the force", PaulDude was not even looking in the right direction.  He was stuck in an electromagnetic hell.  God Bless him if he found his way out of it.

If you just have a theory with experimental evidence, just post it all over the place.  I recommend showing the experimental data and leaving it up to people to make up their own minds.  This way, you are not making any claims and if your butt get's hot, you disembowel the data and go cold.  Don't be a martyr.

If you have a theory and no supporting experimental data, then it is just a theory, and even if correct, you are pretty safe as you have not done anything with it and you have not proved it.  If this is the case, again, just post it all over and start working on experiments to give it some credibility.

You can release it in any format you want as long as you do not show a working device.  Show a working device and they have justification to seize it and silence you.  You could try to show a working device anonymously, but they will probably find you anyway.

Don't waste your time with a patent.  They can easily take care of that by declaring it a matter of national security and then you and the patent go silent.


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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
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Offline AhuraMazda

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2009, 12:24:37 AM »

GK,
The time is ripe for a change and as allways change brings a host of opportunities.
It only takes one common man to be the catalyst of this change.

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2009, 12:25:58 AM »
@ rhombus24

Think of your safety first!   There are better ways than patents for this type of disruptive technology.  Just by posting what you have could attract the wrong people.

The best option would be to post instructions openly on how to build a small prototype for all your peers to verify as a working model.  If it is small enough and safe enough then the world would already be a better place with your design.

You would be protected as the cat would be out of the bag and would have the safety in numbers (If the device is safe).

You also be known as the guy who cracked the TPU and successfully gave it to the world as opposed to all the others who have tried and failed, including Tesla!

If you setup a donate button on a web page and included the plans I bet you that eventually you would be richer than just selling the patent.

Regards,
Paul






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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2009, 12:25:58 AM »
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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2009, 12:42:07 AM »
@ rhombus24
In the last 5 posts, you now have a full release of options each one coordinating and complimenting the other. I wish the TPU could have been released in such an expeditous format. But as anyone here can agree it has been released in just the right way. 8)

--giantkiller. Bombs lead to shrapnel. Tread lightly amidst the mines of deception.

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 12:55:31 AM »
    Fuck the patent and fuck making money off it.  Make one.  Move the fuck outta here and find yourself a small village where you and yours can power the village and a waterpump for crops and be rewarded a thousand fold more then any kinda shit the undergods of capitolism can offer you.  A guy had a device to power his home in an emergency that didnt use electricity.  He went away to South America or something.  His wife got upset because she didn't know what it was her husband had in the cellar making this lightbulb run all the time without any batteries.  The word got around and they took it outta here in a stainless steel humvee escorted by 5 black SUV's.  "just incase it was a bomb".  Look at the shit Tesla went through.  He had to file 100's of patents just to get the information to people he wanted to.
That's us folks!  See you'll get 5minutes of glory on a newscast.  Then the sheeple will forget about you because their too busy watching the news about some people in worse shit then they think they are in.  Obama and a million or so jobs aint gonna amount to a row of beans.  Seizing control of the energy companies (partial law enforcement instead of martial law enforcement) and forcing these criminals into investing their fucking spoils into hydrogen generating and distributing systems NOW is what he has to do if he has any balls at all. 

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 12:55:31 AM »
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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 01:37:06 AM »
spam it thats the only way it will ever get out.

Offline rhombus24

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 02:42:19 AM »
You guys are awesome, these are great replies in such a short amount of time, and I'm surprised I didn't get flamed  ;D.
Ok just to make it clear though, I don't have a working machine yet, in fact I realized how it all works on the plane ride home a couple of days ago (inspiration i guess).  But I am telling you, I know the way they all work, Steven Mark is probably the only inventor, besides Tesla, that put it out clear.  It really does work the way he said it does, just that he misleads with different things.  Also this concept from what I have put together so far, should work with electromagnetics but for sure electrostatics.

I see what you all mean on the patents, I was thinking the same thing.. government seizes it and keeps everyone quiet.
What about if I were to obtain a patent first, with an inconspicuous name, then release somewhat of a news bomb.  Like youtube videos leaving no question of its merit, btw I know most of you are older than me and youtube really is a completely new thing but I know you can see the use in something like that.  I know videos can be removed, but I am talking about a well planned out strategy that is really a ton of different videos shot in different places, posted with different accounts, put on the net at nearly the same time.  I think popularity would grow, especially if the machine is shown powering something incredible, it could be made like a viral video.

Of course that's only a part of disclosure, the other thing that I know is mankind is not ready for this.  All of you know what the implications are and the weapons that could be built.  With the way the world the way it is today, a machine like this may plunge it into extreme chaos.  But then again, isn't that gonna be the U.S. in a year anyway?  It was a huge battle in my head on what to do, for right now I am completely ignoring the consequences, I just want to build this and know it really works.

Like I have already said though, it does work this way every inventor has used the same principles, either its right or they all lied (yeah right :))

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
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Offline b0rg13

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 02:52:36 AM »
im not sure if this will make sense but here goes,

..if you have a device to get people off the grid,make it a requirement that they share it and help ten people they know,it will spreed like wildfire, the power co will respond in putting up the price of power to compensate for a short time and by the time they work out the people are becoming independant it will be to late,there grid will turn to shit and rott.

peace.(and good luck).

ps, dont look for profit here, just look to help everyone you can, youll find it much more rewarding and it will open up many more door for you in life.,...look at some of the folks who have tryed to profit,where are they now?, dead,locked away to rott ect,and probably never heard of or seen again, if no one knows where it started there is no one to point the finger at, and once thousands of people become self sufficient, its going to be hard to suppress and kill and jail them,they loose,we win.

....currently.....we all keep loosing.

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 03:00:42 AM »
Why do I always smell a rat when someone says "the world is not ready for it"?

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2009, 03:37:14 AM »
@Hans

This is my last post for the night, but look, I really am not lying.  And if you think the world IS ready then you haven't thought about it...

And im not gonna turn this thread into an argument about whether the world is or isn't or whatever.  Its about HOW to get it DISCLOSED.  And I like your ideas Hans so please don't take it in the wrong way, and remember I am not saying I have a working model, however I already started with my van de graff tonight.  What I am saying is that I know how they work, and most of the board members do too (the actual experimenters anyway), they just haven't put it together yet...

@all
Is there anyone that has the knowledge and wouldn't mind posting how other claimed FE inventors went wrong in their disclosure, or at least how they disclosed it.  And also why people like Bearden, that are still alive, have not done more to advertise..

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Re: Question: What is the best way to disclose?
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2009, 03:43:04 AM »
It would seem you are, right now, endangering yourself by your statements.  IP addresses can be traced and at this point in time you are on your own with information that greedy people may not want distributed.  You are a possible "threat" to their greedy world.  At this point you could be silenced, threatened, etc...to stop a possible threat to them.

Sharing now, far and fast, with the help others who can grab info and spread it takes the spotlight off yourself since you have already turned on the spotlight by stating "I know".  Hiding and posting from an internet cafe seems too late.  I would think spreading the theory far and fast would be the way to go at this point.

I don't mean to try and scare you, just my thoughts on the matter.

 

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