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Title: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 07:57:54 PM

JUST A SNIPPET:

Here are some tips for beginner vegetable gardeners, with help from Ball and Kirsten Akre, manager of the Kilbourn Park Organic Greenhouse in Chicago.

1. Don't get carried away. For many new vegetable gardeners, "it's first love," Ball says, and they plant more than they can handle. It's best to start modestly with some of the easier vegetables: lettuce, radishes, beets, carrots, potatoes, summer squash. Though tomatoes are almost irresistible, they are not the easiest plant in the patch, so it's wise not to take on too many.

2. Weed and mulch. It's better to remove weeds by the roots rather than chopping them up with a tiller or cultivator, Akre says; many can resprout from the chopped-up bits. Get ahead of weeds early in the season and keep them from returning in force with a layer of organic mulch, such as straw, dried leaves or compost. Don't use wood chips, Akre says; as they break down they can compete with plants' roots for nutrients. Get a compost pile started and be ready to collect leaves this fall so next year you'll have plenty of free mulch.

3. Water steadily. Swinging between wet and dry can lead to problems, such as cracking and blossom-end rot in tomatoes, so try to stick to a consistent schedule, ideally watering in the morning. Let soil dry out between waterings, so roots don't rot and because stretching to get moisture makes them long and strong. Mulch will help keep soil moisture steady. Water more often in hot weather or when growing in containers, which dry out fast. Apply water low, at the soil level, rather than spraying leaves. Wet leaves attract disease. Avoid working the garden immediately after it has rained so you don't compact wet soil or spread disease between wet leaves.

4. Go easy on the fertilizer. It's tempting to try to push for big fruit or large yields by using lots of fertilizer, but that can burn the plants. Slow-release fertilizers, especially organic ones, are safest. If you dug plenty of organic matter, such as compost, into the soil when you planted, you rarely will need added fertilizer, Akre says.

5. Seek support. Many vining vegetables, such as peas, pole beans, cucumbers and tomatoes, need support to get up in the sunlight and keep fruit off the ground as it ripens. Check the seed packet for directions and follow them. Make your supports sturdy; ripe beefsteak tomatoes or other large fruits can really drag a plant down.


Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 08:00:41 PM

Growing Vegetables In The Home Garden (Part One)
http://www.hoptechno.com/book26.htm
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 08:02:18 PM

Starting Vegetable Garden Seeds & Plants Indoors by David Selman
http://www.gardenstew.com/about152.html
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 08:04:12 PM

How to Make a Vegetable Garden
By Janet Beal, eHow Editor

http://www.ehow.com/how_2309322_make-vegetable-garden.html
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 08:05:49 PM

Once soil is completely thawed and no longer soaked with water, you can begin planting early crops: spinach, lettuce, peas, and cabbage. You can sow seeds for root crops like carrots or beets.
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: broli on January 05, 2009, 08:07:21 PM
I would suggest hydroponic systems for most of that crop. It's simple, no weed, no fertilized soil, almost no bugs, not season dependable, highly efficient and much more benefits. The only advantage imo is the energy cost. If you want to go completely indoors you'll need industrial lamps which suck power. But that hopefully will get fixed with a free energy device  ;D. Grow your own food and use the energy you need. Let the politician and brainwashers rot away.
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 08:12:33 PM

I'm looking into this as well. Free Energy devices that come to mind are Methane collection from compost, like some gents in India are promoting, this can be used for heating and cooking. Hydrogen powered generators to run the lighting for indoor hydroponic gardens.

Do you have any info on indoor gardening you would like to share with us here on the board?


Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 08:16:51 PM

GREAT SITE WITH GROWTH RATES (i.e.: HOW FAST CAN I GET THIS PLANT IN MY GUT, I'M HUNGRY)


Home Gardening Guide

http://www.cyber-north.com/gardening/homeguide.html
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: Alien509 on January 05, 2009, 08:20:06 PM
I would suggest 0 g or G hydroponics. The later is preferable because canceling work is awesome. I wonder how plants fair in 0 g. I would presume rather well. I mean think about how easy it would be to grow an 80lb water melon at close to 0 g. I don't know if that would require genetic engineering but I think it is also possible. The thought really weirds me out, consuming the food afterward would also be a strange idea. *pictures a bunch of industrial lamps mounted with hydroponic plants floating, yet tethered down to the table* Kinda looks like the matrix but with plants or something. Over unity Chloroplasta ROTFL

I say lets get rid of food all together. It's not possible though- I mean to a certain extent it is, but then reality kicks in. Then again, I always do enjoy a bite out of life. ;D
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: hansvonlieven on January 05, 2009, 08:28:08 PM
I would suggest hydroponic systems for most of that crop. It's simple, no weed, no fertilized soil, almost no bugs, not season dependable, highly efficient and much more benefits. The only advantage imo is the energy cost. If you want to go completely indoors you'll need industrial lamps which suck power. But that hopefully will get fixed with a free energy device  ;D. Grow your own food and use the energy you need. Let the politician and brainwashers rot away.

G'day all,

The drawback with hydroponic systems is that the plants are growing in a cocktail of chemicals. Because of the controlled environment plants grown this way look good but this is about all. Anyone who has ever taken an organically grown lettuce for instance, and compared it to a hydroponically grown one knows what I am talking about. The same with strawberries and everything else. About the only thing that does better in a hydroponic system than in nature is marijuana, if THC content is a criterion.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 08:34:08 PM

That's very good info. I do NOT partake in smokin/growin the ganja. Maybe back when I was still young, but now, nope. I would rather survive than waste valuable garden space on something that will not satisfy my families hunger. As for the medical side of it's use, well neither anyone in my family nor myself need it's help, YET. Maybe if/when the time comes, hopefully not ever.

Back to gardening VEGETABLES I go... off to work, researching organic gardening ...
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 09:05:25 PM

One thing I want to share is knowledge that was once shared with the public regarding nutrition. When I was growing up, the media would inform the public about the benefits of proteins and carbs, BEANS AND RICE. These are both HUGE suppliers of both. Do not buy instant rice, get the real rice in BULK, 50 lbs. bags or larger. Same with dried beans, BULK.

Also forgot about this one great plant: http://hubpages.com/hub/A-Tiny-Vegetable-Garden-With-Big-Nutrition
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 09:53:12 PM

home :: archive of monthly advice :: in your veg garden in february

http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/todo_now/archive/feb/veg_gard_now.php
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 09:58:36 PM

Free Vegetable Seeds: How to save on garden seed and plant a garden for under $ 20.

http://handydandytips.googlepages.com/cheapvegetableseeds:howtosaveongardensee
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: frog on January 05, 2009, 10:41:04 PM

25 tools & traits for indoor vegetable gardens

A list of the top 25 things that every indoor vegetable garden should contain.

http://www.essortment.com/all/indoorvegetable_rteg.htm
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Post by: PhiScience on January 05, 2009, 11:01:28 PM
  Here is a very good fertilizer to use it will increase the level of nutrition in the food you harvest.

http://www.fertilizeronline.com/rockdust.php (http://www.fertilizeronline.com/rockdust.php)
Title: Re: HUMAN ENERGY - FOOD
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 06, 2009, 12:40:54 AM

Lots of great info on growing folks...thanks.

They now have 12 volt Led grow lights for indoor greenhouse style growing...also good for your earthless crops. :)

Preserves anyone ?

Regards...