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Author Topic: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?  (Read 90813 times)

ramset

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #135 on: February 01, 2009, 07:25:46 PM »
St Buzz

I can't find any info on this bloomline laser exciter ?

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #136 on: February 01, 2009, 07:45:44 PM »
St Buzz

I can't find any info on this bloomline laser exciter ?

Chet

Blumlein - it's a PFL pulser

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #137 on: February 01, 2009, 09:17:11 PM »
St Buzz

I have once again asked[supreme being] for your shackles to be removed

 Chet  [the biped pig]

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #138 on: February 02, 2009, 06:09:47 PM »
@ Chet  - Glad to see you back on two legs and walking upright.

@ Grumpy - You said resonance was not important just oscillation and that Meyer said so.

Hum.. My resonance chamber experiment shows a very large peak to peak increase on the detector piezo when the driver piezo is tuned for the speed of sound through air for the chamber length. Taking into consideration temp and humidity levels, the chamber is accurate to within 1/8 of an inch and a sudden 180 degree phase shift occurs on the scope of the pickup -vs- the driver signal at resonance. It is also audibly loader at that sweet spot.

Meyer talked about opening up the aperture of the atom and I would think that this large swing in energy level would meet that description. If we want an electron exchange to occur, then swinging the energy level of the atom would be key and resonance would be important.

As I always understood Meyer in his use of the term oscillation - I took that to mean on the tip of the injector. There was a center positive and two ground sides which alternated to supply ground according to his drawing and truth table on the drawing.

I picked up 2 UV LEDS and am going to see if I can detect the infra red emission when the fission takes place. Even though the LEDS are 390nm I think it will be detectable.

If that does not work, I built a 100W mercury vapor discharge lamp being pushed with a 400 watt supply that will pretty much shut your eyes down for the rest of the day after just a 1 second exposure - pretty sure that will do it. :-) There is a blue ball of UV two inches thick surrounding that beast.

I must obtain some proper protective eye wear.

welding glass, 8 or higher - and shield it, as it will give you a sun burn

you must use quartz tube for uv to get through or maybe MgF2 - has to transmit UV at the range the LEDS put out.  Pyrex and other glasses block the UV as do most plastics.

Shorter wavelengths are greatly attenuated in air, so there is an advantage to flowing around the UV source, or using multiple UV sources around a quartz conduit.

Blew the cap (it shorted) on my mercury bulb power supply (400w).  Got to order and wait for a new one.

Are you familiar with open and closed sound columns?

EDIT:
I  was referring to electrical resonance.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2009, 07:27:44 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #139 on: February 02, 2009, 11:50:01 PM »
Gentlemen

Yet another example of cavitation in nature

http://www.break.com/index/amazing-new-water-powered-jet-pack.html

        Chet

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #140 on: February 03, 2009, 08:57:24 PM »
   Plasma Cavitation Accelerators  Choose your particles and targets.


     Most metals are room temperature plasma.  Some with denser electron seperation than others.

             http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_acceleration

                       :o

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #141 on: February 03, 2009, 09:09:27 PM »
Behold - The power of cavitation!

I built a cold steam fogger thingy for a project I am working on and used a pond fogger to produce mist. (It all sits in a GE water filter container)

Even though that polycarbonate plate is three inches away from the piezo transducer, after 5 minutes, it had destroyed the plate and it does that with so little power it is just amazing.

was the poly plate submerged?


EDIT:
That dude was right about the nitrogen.


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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #142 on: February 03, 2009, 09:38:19 PM »
St Buzz

Polycarbonate

Melts at 270C  is that lump[2nd photo] all that is left of the top plate?

The Buzz said   

 ''' destroyed the plate and it does that with so little power it is just amazing'''

How little?
 
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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #143 on: February 04, 2009, 01:33:27 AM »
St Buzz

Nobody has proven you wrong

HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THIS MESS ?

How do we release the choke hold of the powers that BE

SHINE THE LIGHT ,THE TIME IS LATE!!

  Chet


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« Reply #144 on: February 04, 2009, 03:07:31 AM »
       A cavitated plasma will create waves through it's mass that travel at the speed of light.   Introduction of a second field of mass with a cold plasma wave circulating at a different fequency and driven so that the two wave crests  interfere cause collision of the accelerated mass traveling/surfing the wave fronts.
Energies of the accelerated mass easily reaching fusion levels as the mass is compressed in the cavities created between plasma waves.

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #145 on: February 04, 2009, 04:04:51 PM »
After a bit more reading it looks like I want IR LEDS and have them and will test both light sources after the UV test. I should be able to test for about anything with the cell. Still have to build the power supplies and driver circuits and will get that finished up tomorrow.

All those resistors on Meyers gas processor probably means there are a bunch of LED diodes or lasers like he claimed. The ionizer would account for the other set of wires. After looking at a better picture I am backing off the one way valve claim on the bottom. Looks more like an electrical connection since it is brass and threaded. There is a ground lug open and it probably goes to that. I'll post the rest of the photos on my site later.

You bulb idea puts out more than those diodes ever will.

Infrared might prove interesting.

On the gas processor, I see the brass threaded stud with no wire, the black wire with red sheath and a label looks like a HV wire - like for an igniter - this may be for the ionizing HV.  I'd guess that the other black and red wires are for the LEDs.



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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #146 on: February 05, 2009, 12:52:33 AM »
The wire size appears to be the same - only difference appears to be strain relief to me.

Had another look at the original Meyer VIC and think I have my head wrapped around that. It is a pulse compression modulator. Normally we modulate RF as AM or FM but this appears to modulate much like AM and FM combined. Not sure what to call it so a pulse compression modulator for now.

I see why on the Puharich patent the wire from the secondary is not connected. He appears to have been using capacitive inductance of the coil and there would have been multiple banks. Not surprisingly, Meyer appears to have just copied the Puharich process in his own way.

Shake the oxygen atom 7 times and on the 8th, ping it with the high voltage once the electrons are spaced out from the oscillation.

A mental picture:

If I had 8 magnetic pool balls sitting in a line (electrical polarization) then I rattled them a bit to space them out (VIC bank would coil)and then I hit the end ball with a Q-ball (The high voltage through the gas discharge tube - spark gap) the ball on the other end will fly off leaving the other 7 balls. The all I have to do is retrieve my Q-ball (electron extraction) and I have HHO.

Make sense?

Meyer just rolled out of his posh poolside lounge chair and spilled his cocktail.

VIC coil is now laid to rest.

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #147 on: February 05, 2009, 01:14:16 AM »
St Buzz

     Rack em up!!

      Chet

« Last Edit: February 05, 2009, 01:38:07 AM by ramset »

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #148 on: February 10, 2009, 05:41:21 PM »
      Looks like they are going high tech on Buzz's implosion.  They are burning some special fuel (heavy water available most anywhere)  to get some helium out of the implosion.   They are using I'll be damned Grumpys pulsed energy.  Of course they make sure to make something radioactive enough to come under the control of the powers that be.  In fact they already have the output priced up.  Look at the people involved and tell me this tech isn't gonna go south.      Obama is talking windmills while the good ole boys are talking return on investment.  And that extra highspeed neutron couldn't fuse with another high speed neutron and get a little gamma going.  That would release more high speed neutrons and oh oh black hole.  On top of that what are we gonna do with all this helium gas anyway.
Lots of goodyear blimps and party ballons and kids running around with gerbal voices.     http://other.nrl.navy.mil/LaserFusionEnergy/index.html
                  

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #149 on: February 10, 2009, 11:47:08 PM »
Here is my diatribe on cavitation:
WHAT TO HELL CAVITIES HAVE COMMON WITH FREE ENERGY?
YOU FIND CAVITIES ALSO IN TEETH, BUT YOU NEED LATER A DENTIST AND TO PAY FOR HIS WORK.
CAVITATION IS SECONDARY EFFECT, YOU NEED HER, BUT NEED STHG MORE EARLIER

I suppose it would begin with the assumption that all there is, is energy. If I had to make a guess, I suspect that half the energy in the universe is in the form of mass. Mass is energy that is compressed, spinning and polarized.
IT IS NO WONDER E=MC^2

Our universe is made of fractals and surely the reason that if you expand Mandelbrot's equation out to the size of the universe, you begin to see images of snow covered mountains, trees and other things we see everyday. If you truly want to know the shape of the universe, look in a mirror. Edgar Cayce and the law of probability should be required reading for anyone wanting a better understanding of the cosmos.
YOU ARE RIGHT

Free energy:
The term free energy creates a reaction with an educated person since it implies energy from nothing. This of course is impossible and silly and so the reaction is justified.
OF COURSE

A better term would be "economic free energy". Since a gallon of water contains the atomic energy equivalent, equal to the chemical equivalent of millions of barrels of oil, the gallon of water would represent economic free energy.
YOU NEED TO EXTRACT IT FROM WATER ONLY

The best term would be mass to atomic energy converter. Since all free energy devices do just that. Energy does not come from nothing - no exceptions.
FROM SHORTCUT:  BETWEEN MATTER AND ANTIMATTER
 
Zero Point:
Notice nowhere in that simple equation E=MC2 is there anything that represents aether or zero point? I am going to stick with my own experience and some of the best scientific minds on Earth. Of course there is a zero point and of course there is less than a zero point. It would be impossible to have a black hole without less than zero and so everything in between exists as well. It has nothing to to do with free energy.

Aether:
The aether field was measured and observed by Dayton Miller using light-beam interferometry in the early part of the 1900s to measure an Earth-entrained aether drift.

Many scientist assumed and wrote of the existence of the aether field which included Crookes, Lodge, Faraday, Michelson, Moorley, Miller, Tesla, Reich and even Einstein.

Einstein later denied the aether field and this is confirmed in a letter he wrote to Shankland thanking him for disproving Miller. In the letter Einstein acknowledged that the existence of the aether would invalidate special relativity.
MAYBE EINSTEIN LOST HIS OWN SOUL (OR SOLD IT, I^VE HEARD TO j. p. MORGAN)

Dayton Miller did 10,000 hours of observation of the aether on a mountain near Ashland Oregon. His observations concluded the field moves at 24.5 kilometers per hour across the planet, concentrated between -100 meters below the surface and +300 meters above the surface and departs the planet in the direction of the constellation Leo. It tends to flow around objects like mountains but also flows through them to some extent.
HOW STARS TRAVEL IN TIME AND HOW THIS WAS OBSERVED THROUGH RUSSIAN ASTRONOMER KOZYRYEV, PLEASE SEE: http://www.universalinternetlibrary.ru/book/potapov/5.shtml
CHAPTER 5.3 MYSTERIOUS TORSION FIELDS

My own thoughts on this are that given the fact that aether has been proven to come from space and return to space reveal that it is sourced by a larger body such as the solar system or the Milky Way Galaxy or perhaps any large body of mass. Daton Miller's experiments indicated that there was an aether drift that also flowed from the Sun.

Regardless of what the aether is, it can be said with relative certainty what it is not. Is is not a source of free energy. Mass to atomic energy conversion and the aether drift are two entirely two different subjects.
NO, YOU CAN USE MASS OF UNIVERSE TO MAKE SHORTCUT BETWEEN MATTER/ANTIMATTER AND TO REGULATE THIS PROCESS

    * Free energy devices can only do one thing - convert mass into the atomic energy contained within the mass and cavitation is required to accomplish that.
NOT ONLY, CAN DO MASS FROM AETHER
HAVE YOU NOT HEARD IN SCHOOL, HOW AFTER REACTION BETWEEN MAN AND FEMALE CHILD CAN BE BORN?

    * Plasma is not a state of matter, it is matter in a state of change due to the fact that it is a cavitation.
PLASMA IS IN STATE BETWEEN MASS AND ENERGY, SUCH AS ELECTRICAL FLOW-IT^S MINI PLASMA