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Author Topic: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?  (Read 81253 times)

Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2009, 06:38:44 PM »
As long as you keep ignoring the fact that a Geiger tube is "indiscriminant" - I have nothing more to say about it and you can stop bringing it up.
You'll need to define "indiscriminant," but Geiger counters are not going to pick up any electromagnetic pulses produced by your magnetic cores or the wires in or around such cores. IOW, the Geiger counter does a good job at only picking up gamma and beta radiation, and some models can also detect alpha radiation.



If you had followed up on the work of Walter Russell, you would know that the transmutation I refer to in not the brute force nuclear reaction of conventional science.
So then you admit there would be no gamma radiation.  Can you show any confirmation of nuclear transmutation of any kind without gamma radiation?  BTW, the nuclear work of Walter Russell has not been accepted in conventional physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Russell



Electrical discharge explosion of a wire is a form of "cavitation".  ;D
You can provide a reference?



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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2009, 06:40:49 PM »
Paul
When the administrator locks a thread ,he always leaves a post with the reason[not so in this case]
As you know anyone that starts a thread can lock it
Chet
Can you show where Stefan said this?

I think there was a reason why TheBuzz was banned from this forum.

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2009, 06:52:45 PM »
Paul
I have NEVER seen him lock a thread without explaining why, NEVER
I don't know if  it  is written in some rule book ? It would be the act of a competent administrator to explain a locked thread with the last post [which is what I always see him do]
  Chet
PS The entity known as The Buzz was reinstated with honors ,And is doing experiments to verify his unique theory
He has also stated this quest is at a great financial strain to him and his family
He will open source all his findings

QUOTE FROM THE BUZZ
 I have a sincere interest in THE science. We are both on the same side but I do not have a personal interest. TheBuzz is not my name, who I am or for that matter really how I am in real life. The science was created by smart people probably before I was born but suppressed over and over. No aspect of this is personal to me and I want to make that clear.

I can never gain a cent from all the work I have done and more money than I care to reveal invested in figuring this stuff out. I saw what was happening in the world and took the money we had set aside for retirement and invested it into figuring out the one thing that could stop these crazy zionazis and their wars. I have children and grandchildren, that is personal for me and to the degree that any of this matters.

I will have to work for the rest of my life rather than retire because of the money I spent figuring out what makes these devices work. So I have a vested interest in getting something to give others for that sacrifice. Maybe that is why hollow punks piss me off.

Most people are in it for themselves, that isn't me. That is as straight up as I can be  .end quote

Around here thats a GRAND SLAM
« Last Edit: January 08, 2009, 07:32:05 PM by ramset »

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2009, 07:04:04 PM »
I have NEVER seen him lock a thread without explaining why, NEVER
Just out of curiosity. A lot of threads have been locked on this forum without a final post stating who closed it. How do know Stefan hasn't closed some of those threads?


The entity known as The Buzz was reinstated with honors
With honors, you think???

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2009, 07:24:18 PM »
Paul
yes lots get locked[by the people who started them] Stefan NEVER locks a thread without reason And always says so in the last post

The entity known as Buzz left[banned] as a junior member has since been reinstated as an ELITE member with so many stars he can't seem to find them all
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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2009, 07:35:52 PM »
You'll need to define "indiscriminant," but Geiger counters are not going to pick up any electromagnetic pulses produced by your magnetic cores or the wires in or around such cores. IOW, the Geiger counter does a good job at only picking up gamma and beta radiation, and some models can also detect alpha radiation.

So then you admit there would be no gamma radiation.  Can you show any confirmation of nuclear transmutation of any kind without gamma radiation?  BTW, the nuclear work of Walter Russell has not been accepted in conventional physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Russell

You can provide a reference?

PL

You are obviously not interested in actually achieving usable anomolous energy by any means.  No reference I can ever show will make you agree, so what is the point?

This reduces you and your banter the rank of "troll".

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2009, 07:35:58 PM »
Paul
yes lots get locked[by the people who started them] Stefan NEVER locks a thread without reason And always says so in the last post
Perhaps you're correct, but you've shown no proof, at all. I was just curious why you make so many statements based on no proof.

Enough said on this IMO. I was just asking for any proof what so ever about thebuzz theory, and found none.

PL

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2009, 07:55:54 PM »
Paul
you seem to have a double standard  ""As far as I know, Stefan doesn't change the stars.'' [A statement with no proof][silly example, but no sillier than yours]
You also seem to have an agenda
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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2009, 08:08:54 PM »
...
The entity known as Buzz left[banned] as a junior member has since been reinstated as an ELITE member with so many stars he can't seem to find them all
   Chet

Ha, banned as junior member and returned as an "Elite member"...
What Elite? The SaintBuzz Ego club?

Jeez, now we have a karma scoring...
If I say that The Buzz is a Charlatan, cheating audience preaching mostly nonsense, semi-truths and self-delusions as they were the Ultimate Truth ... :o

Hey, Buzzers, hit hard!

Btw, Ramset, it would be nice if at least your boss would "applaud" you... You are sucking up his ass for quite some time now.

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2009, 08:12:03 PM »
@Grumpy

What Paul is saying is his right to debate such a claim. I also have misgivings about the cavitation theory although your last paragraph of your explanation does help in the physical sense. I accept some portions and reject others, especially the use of the word "ALL" is due to cavitation, "ALL" is mass to atomic, and especially the discussion of 2 coulombs at 1 meter, this would have to be laid out clearly as to how you would plan to go about testing this in a manner that others can replicate. A one liners will not cut it. The universe is too vast to make such claims.

Theories are a dime a dozen, you know this, I know this and we all know this. What TheBuzz is proposing is no small claim and actually, this is really not the place to propose it expecting that any real world change might come out of it in the scientific community. This is no small pick'ins. Our own personal work loads are already high and the amount of brain-power, effort and also stamina required to hold your own during such a process is rather high.

Added to the already difficult realities of coming out with a new and unproven theory, now if members cannot openly discuss this without fear of being ridiculed as we know is often the case with how TheBuzz responds to others, then I and others will not have the stomach to entertain any rebuttals. You either want to propose a theory and be open to debate or you keep your theory to yourself and don't cause any waves. Can it be any other way. I think not.

Then there is TheBuzz's honest approach to this subject that must also include an honest realization that he could in fact be proven wrong, maybe not by us but in general academia where this theory really should make its claim.

Or at least make a mark and someday some university smart ass will find it and bring it into more public light. These things take time. TheBuzz cannot expect things to change just by announcing it here in a few somewhat ambiguous lines of text. I would take much more then that. But the first start is to accept both others can object and in fact others may even prove you wrong. Are you open to that possibility - yes or no. Will you treat others respectfully during this process - yes or no. You know the rest.

But, to tell you the truth the world does not have any time to fiddle around with new theories. The fuse is lit and is getting short. Once we can buy more time for the world, we'll have time to mull over new theories. I'm just trying to be a realist cause I like the guy, I think he is smart mixed with smart-ass but his ideas are good.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2009, 12:37:24 AM by wattsup »

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2009, 08:13:24 PM »
Paul
you seem to have a double standard  ""As far as I know, Stefan doesn't change the stars.'' [A statement with no proof][silly example, but no sillier than yours]
Isn't the difference obvious? My statements go as --> "As far as I know" and also "Perhaps you're correct,"  but you say --> "Stefan NEVER locks a thread without reason And always says so in the last post"  You even capitalized the word "never."


You also seem to have an agenda
Most people who try to help have agenda. My agenda is develop technology that results in global "free energy."  Such an agenda would also include asking groups for any proof what so ever so as to not waste legitimate research time.

Lets stop this and start seeking truth. I would love to see a real experiment that anyone can perform right now, please, that shows a spark or whatever produces nuclear reactions. If that's not the claim, then where does the energy come from, and show the over unity experiment. I'm a huge believer in "free energy," but so far only see evidence from ambient thermal energy.

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2009, 08:15:05 PM »
Spinner I just gave you a karma kiss [applaud]
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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2009, 09:02:34 PM »
Spinner I just gave you a karma kiss [applaud]
Chet
Well, Chet, that is a surprise... (Although if the applaud is not coming "from your heart", it does not count!  :D)

FYI, i didn't smite you... And I'd like to give you an applaud - some day...


Btw, this karma scoring... Is it good or no? Will it bring some new differentiations (believers/skeptics), a prejudice?
Is it good for the "cause"?
We'll see.
I for one am not here to gain popularity....
Although it wouldn't hurt... ;D
Cheers!

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2009, 09:25:57 PM »

Btw, Ramset, it would be nice if at least your boss would "applaud" you... You are sucking up his ass for quite some time now.


Ramset deserves a raise.  Why don't you put him in for employee of the month?

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Re: Cavitation: Is it the key to alternative energy?
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2009, 10:19:21 PM »
Never mind a raise!!
just get this bulls eye off my back

I feel like the poster child for bad karma

HEY why's Stefan walking over here with the blindfold? :o
Chet
« Last Edit: January 08, 2009, 10:49:29 PM by ramset »

 

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