Dear utilitarian,

The closest aspect to a closed system in the diode array would be each diode. Perhaps that is what you were getting at, but then again there's no such thing as a perfect closed system.

PL

I guess what you are left with then is showing how there is no transfer of heat from the hotter reservoir to the cooler reservoir.  I don't expect you to do this on this board, but that's what strikes me as a challenge for you going forward, if you want to show violation of the 2nd law.

And I do wish you the best in this, and I will not be unhappy to be proved wrong, but I think there is a tremendous amount of work left.  With the volume of effort that went into establishing the 2nd law, you have no easy task.  If you can even get JREF or any scientist to take you seriously, you will need to prove up every element of what you are claiming in painstaking detail.

So you know, JREF no longer takes all comers.  The reserve a right to focus on the more notorious/publicized claims.  You do have the advantage of having a working model, but that is just the start of it.

A few minutes ago I just sent the following email to the Randi organization. I have been using my Google email account to send such emails to challenge@randi.org

Dear Randi organization,

Three days ago I sent my email regarding my Perpetual Motion machine being entered into your challenge. Could you please reply to my email. Conventional physics *clearly* defines my diode array claim as a Perpetual motion machine. Here's my email -->

[snipped my original email that was posted three days ago at this forum]

Will this be the first legitimate Perpetual Motion machine that Randi denies in his challenge? That's not right. If he knows my diode array has a high chance of succeeding, and he does not want to lose his one million dollars, then that's very shady. 

The other day I came across this thread at the Randi forum -->
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1935624&postcount=16

As you can see, the web page title for the above thread at the Randi forum is "Diode Array challenge to the Second Law of Thermodynamics."  Charles M. Brown started a few threads about diode arrays at the Randi forum. Obviously Charles did not enter a diode array into the challenge, and he was made fun it. It appears Randi's followers believe the diode array should be entered into the challenge, thus making fun of Charles M. Brown in the above link. Well, I am not Charles M. Brown, but I have a diode array, and here I am Randall James Hamilton Zwinge. Are you going to deny a Perpetual Motion Machine claim?

PL

A few minutes ago I just sent the following email to the Randi organization. I have been using my Google email account to send such emails to challenge@randi.org

You heard many opinions of the different people about engaging in The Randy Challenge.... But It's up to you to decide.
If I were you and If I would be convinced that I have a revolutionary technology worth billions..., I'd never "sold it" to an "orthodox skeptical organisation" for "just" a million...
Check out the legals of the Randy org.

Will this be the first legitimate Perpetual Motion machine that Randi denies in his challenge? That's not right. If he knows my diode array has a high chance of succeeding, and he does not want to lose his one million dollars, then that's very shady. 

"Your" diode array is not a novelty at all... Why don't you understand that??? Similar claims are periodical stuff, quite often since the late 50's ... Or, since the dawn of semiconductor technology...
Perpetual motion? I think I was just one of the people who told you (agreed with you?) that your device (if working in accordance with your claim), would be a 2nd Law breaker (at the very beginning).... Using an ambient thermal energy without a necessary drain / (potential difference)....
Remember the Maxwellian Daemon? This should be a cartoon version of what your claim really is....

I'm at the "FE scene" for a decade or so, and I remember that there were many similar claims being made just in the last few years...
Long before this OU site, there were already a great discussions about this subject... (I can tell you, an expensive business at the time of the analog modems and "BBS's").... And, nothing of value came from those claims so far...? Probably because of the suppresion?  Or, maybe, because the thing is not working as it is supposed to?

I think The "Randy.org" dealed with a few similar claims in the past... Just as an "application", of course.
Most of the challengers dropped out of the next step - "full test" very soon after the challenge was "officially" presented....
After all, a classical thermodynamics is a very well understood (and thoroughly verified) subject....

The other day I came across this thread at the Randi forum -->
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1935624&postcount=16

As you can see, the web page title for the above thread at the Randi forum is "Diode Array challenge to the Second Law of Thermodynamics."  Charles M. Brown started a few threads about diode arrays at the Randi forum. Obviously Charles did not enter a diode array into the challenge, and he was made fun it. It appears Randi's followers believe the diode array should be entered into the challenge, thus making fun of Charles M. Brown in the above link. Well, I am not Charles M. Brown, but I have a diode array, and here I am Randall James Hamilton Zwinge. Are you going to deny a Perpetual Motion Machine claim?

PL

Yes, I am just one of the people who can easily object your claims. In fact, after a few posts where I presented some objections (you did dismissed most of them without answering), I am sure you're a nice & good pearson , intriguing, capable, an enthusiast...,  but also quite "delusional".... Your "math" presented is just a "one way thicket".... The stuff which suits your reasoning is good... The rest - simply dismiss it...


THERE IS NO A THERMAL (Johnson/Nyqiust) FE ENERGY!
Well, there actually is, but it's not "available" in the way your "diode array" is supposed to work....

I'm sure you'll do the best to oppose this opinion...

Needless to say, you'll need a lot more than a few "microVolts and a few picoAmperes on the multi kiloOhm load" to convince the world or even this community.....

...
Well, I am not Charles M. Brown, but I have a diode array, and here I am Randall James Hamilton Zwinge. Are you going to deny a Perpetual Motion Machine claim?

Well, if I were You, I'd definitely try to form an "Alliance".  C.B. would be my nr.1 choice....
Cheers!

Obviously Charles did not enter a diode array into the challenge, and he was made fun it.

I think that thread was overall pretty respectable - people took one or two skeptical jabs to start but it got worse as Charles Brown was evasive and vague. He didn't have any answers and couldn't identify 'Forrest Laboratories' the alleged tester under which he received positive results in 1993. So the test didn't rule out RF, thermal or terahertz radiation effects per the thread. The guy sounds a bit delusional frankly.

I wonder if this stuff is patentable with so much prior art. Brown aka http://www.diodearray.com/ has a 1973 patent (expired) and there is also the "Nova Institute" thermo electric chips described at  http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:NOVA_Thermal_Electric_Chips.

Paul, have you had your results verified by a laboratory?

You left out the link. I don't think the following is respectable at all -->
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1935624&postcount=16

You must be pretty thin-skinned then.

What exactly would you consider a lab?  I have a lab in the house.

Independent, with a couple of Phd's on staff.

Here's the email I am sending to the Randi organization -->

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Dear Randi organization,

I would like to enter my diode array into the $1M Randi challenge, but I have questions, if you don't mind. Perhaps they're answered somewhere on your site, but I was unable to find them.

A quick introduction to my device. I have soldered 156 diodes in-series, and then placed a Mylar capacitor across that (the entire diode array). That is it. The diode array is contained in sufficient metal shielding. Also, as advised by scientists, the diode array is presently contained in a mineral oil bath. Mineral oil is the standard/common type of oil used for temperature sensitive testing. The oil bath eliminates all measurable effects that small temperature gradients may have on the diode array. The diode array, for example, produces a measurable DC voltage, depending on the room temperature, the resistance load across the diode array. I have been logging the diode array DC voltage over the past few months. Last night the measured DC voltage was 23.9uV (0.0239mV) DC across a 2M ohm load. That is not going to power anything, but it proves the concept. Please make no mistake that measuring 23.9uV DC across a 2M ohm load is not a difficult task, a task that any competent EE (Electrical Engineer) could easily handle. So, that's not much power, but it still violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics nonetheless!  Furthermore, the mathematics shows that a diode array made of microscopic diodes could produce thousands of watts per cubic meter. That is continuous non-stop power, day and night, 365 days per year. This technology is well worth investigating.

I am certain Randi and his organization would be more than happy to pay the $1M challenge money to a legitimate science researcher. It is my intent to use the money to further my diode array research, to build a diode array *chip* that would produce usable amounts of power; e.g., provide all of the electrical power needs for a home.


Some questions:

1. Where is the application for the perpetual motion machines? I saw one application, and it was concerning "psychic, supernatural or paranormal claims."

2. There are three kinds/classifications of perpetual motion machines. My diode array is considered a perpetual motion of the 2nd kind. Every scientist I've asked said my diode array would violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Please advice if my diode array qualifies for the one million dollar Randi challenge. The first and second kind of perpetual motion machines violate the Laws of Thermodynamics. For details on the three kinds of perpetual motion machines, please read -->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion_machine#Classification

3. What is the *entire* process?  Lets presume that Randi comes here and sees the diode array producing a DC voltage across a load. Then what happens?

4. At some point am I *required* to give or loan you my diode array? I am willing to let scientists analyze the device as long as they want so long as I am present. If they believe I have some hidden transmitter, then they can hand me some binoculars so I can watch far away. I am willing to travel to any safe location so long as I can afford it, or if I am paid for travel, room, and board.

5. Presuming that I win the challenge, I would need to know the maximum time it would take from the point where Randi sees the device to when I would actually receive the one million dollars. My main concern is that it would require years of having the device validated, and require a lot of my time before actually receiving the one million dollars.

6. Is the one million dollars paid out all at once, or is it paid on a monthly basis, or what?
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It's been close to a week now, and still no email reply from the Randi organization. Perhaps it would help if other people sent an email to the Randi organization about my diode array.

PL

There are plenty of labs in SoCal, but I doubt anyone is going to test it for free. Why won't you pay for a test?

Cost money. I'm broke. You seem to have this fictiscous idea that I am trying to make money with my diode array. How many times must I post this, that by far, by a long shot, my entire focus is on achieving global "free energy," and that in terms of myself the priority of making money is considered ZERO. If I make money on perhaps an improved version, say version 1.1 or 2.0, then great, but read my lips please, my entire interest and focus is on helping all life on this planet. If there was a magic button that would guarantee global "free energy," but it would cost my life, I would press it!

If you or someone else wants to flip the bill to have it tested out here in southern California, then I'll be there in a heartbeat.

Why don't you start a thread on the Randi forum asking for input on your device and noting you have entered it in the challenge.

I've seen how they treated Charles M. Brown. I have very little interest in a known hardcore debunker's website. A biased state of mind is destructive. I'm done with debunker forums.

I'm sure there are hundreds of disgruntled Randi claimants. I highly doubt mainstream media is going to pay attention.

Please name one perpetual motion machine claimant that was refused by Randi's organization?  I'm certain a lot of media would be interested in that *if* I made enough noise.


PL