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#### Magnethos

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« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2008, 07:55:42 PM »
I also remember that I read in a book

' In other words, here's the iron rule: If you draw current, you kill the bipolarity gate furnishing the potential gradient (source of energy density). In that case, you kill the source. If you do not draw current, you do not kill the bipolarity gate and you do not shut down the source. In that case, you can continue to "use" it and extract trapped EM energy from it forever. '

I also read in other book that the universe works in a principle of neutralization/equilibrium. That means if we draw current from the source, we're turning the asymmetric poles into symmetric poles. The bipolarity gate means the process of trapping energy from the vacuum while the dipole is asymmetric. But if you draw current, there is a process where the asymmetric poles turn in symmetric poles. This is best know as Amperes-Hour. Common physics says that a source is limited by the amperage, but in the reality a source is limited by the time that get to turn from asymmetric poles to symetric poles. When you have a potential difference (asymmtric poles) in a battery, the bipolar gate is open, but when the poles are symmetric, the bipolar gate is closed and the battery doesn't draws power.

So, when we draw current, the universe is neutralizating and putting in equilibrium the poles to 50% each one. 50% and 50% means symmectric poles and also means closed bipolarity gate.

Excelent work!

#### nueview

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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2008, 08:37:26 PM »
Symetrical as same being like or akin to
Asymetrical having a property or not akin to
capacitive charging of a battery as bedini does with caps lets current lead voltage on charging perfect input to the system dc  charging uses voltage and current in phase poor charging heating would be a problem for the most part a capacitor is a battery and vice versa exotic dielectrics and the like lithium alkali and the like even ferile epoxy more here than emediately meets the eye and some fine material think this helps me with my project but not totally sure how just yet it does simplefy some of my problems thuogh with battery charging transisters will be the real problem may have to find some tubes or relays but there so darn slow.
someone here was saying use inductive charging but that doesn't seem right to me now but a capacitive power supply is making a lot more sense it would be a minor change and may be well worth the effort but you would have to loose the reverse pulse as it would be to a detroment and a diode bridge may not work properly just a few thoughts.
time to start christmas hear my grandkids thank you for the christmas present it was the best i've had in many years.

#### Pirate88179

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« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2008, 10:17:02 PM »
I'd agree the battery could be zero volts, but it probably would not stay there for very long. It would probably slowly drift back to it's original polarity.

As you said, PM's can also reverse. I've done that by pressing a Neo and frig PM together where they repel each other. They will repel until the neo gets close enough to the frig PM, and then the frig PM will flip and then they will attract. The neo has high coercivity, and it's strong enough to flip the weak frig PM.

PL

Just for the heck of it, I once took two strong neos and super glued them together while they were repelling each other. (same poles)  I had to use vice grips while the glue was drying.  Once dry, the magnets switched their poles such that the "stack" now had a north and south on the top and bottom.  So, for this to happen, one of them had to flip or something otherwise I would have ended up with 2 norths or two souths. (which I was actually looking to do)  It was interesting.

Bill

#### PaulLowrance

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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2008, 05:21:14 PM »
Nice experiment Bill!  How long did it take to flip?  I'm wondering what the actual *flip* time was. Perhaps if you wrapped some wire around it and connected a voltage meter or scope. If it doesn't flip too fast, then you could separate the PM's when they're at zero B-field (degaussed). I'd love to know the change in temperature while the PM goes from magnetized to demagnetized.

PL

#### Pirate88179

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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2008, 06:58:06 PM »
Paul:

I don't know how long it took exactly.  I used super glue and held them together in the vice grips for about 2 minutes.  Once I saw they were going to stay together I immediately tested the poles and basically just ended up with a thicker version of what I had started with. (one pole on top the other on the bottom)  So, good question.  Somewhere in there a change took place.  Was it all at once? (my guess is yes)  It would be interesting to do using a magnetic field indicator. (Like the one that guy made with iron filings suspended in mineral oil in a clear bottle, it shows three dimensional magnetic fields)

Maybe the change happens the instant the two are forced together?  You could put two into a pair of pliers and then test the poles to see.  I never did fool with it much after that as I was looking to create some special magnet with weird poles but.....didn't work.  I still have it glued together here somewhere.

Bill

#### AbbaRue

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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2008, 08:40:48 PM »
@Pirate88179
I find that really interesting too.
If you can find those Neo's again it would be interesting to know if they are still the same strength.

Taking a length of wire and folding it in half and using it to wind an inductor "Bi-filar coil" is supposed to collect radiant energy.
I will have to try this. Also could be used to restore dead batteries.
But what makes a better radiant energy collector, winding this on an iron core or an air core?
Your neo experiment reminded me of this, because in a Bi-filar coil the magnetic field is canceled out.
FEG 5-34 is the reference.

#### Pirate88179

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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2008, 09:28:51 PM »
@ AbbaRue:

I don't know what the relative strength of the glued neos is.  I will try to dig them out, if not, I'll glue another pair and test and see.  I don't think it is any stronger than just 2 neos magnetically stuck together and actually, it might be a little less.  It might be the same as a single neo that is not glued.  Good questions.

As far as the bifilar coils being non-electro magnets, I think that depends on how they are wound. In making the Stubblefield bifilar coils, we saw some electromagnet (self generating) characteristics of these coils during some testing we did.  I have heard what you stated about bifilar coils being just as you said.  That is why I noticed that with the Stubblefield coils there was a difference somehow.  These were iron core.

Bill

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