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Author Topic: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life  (Read 16068 times)

Offline Magnethos

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Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« on: December 24, 2008, 02:56:13 PM »
Very interesting theory and schematics to bring back to life Ni-Cad Batteries.
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http://www.instructables.com/id/Bring_Dead_Ni_Cad_Batteries_Back_To_Life/

It will be very helpful to find also a system for other kind of batteries. I know Bedini is selling a system to use with Car Batteries, but I don't know with all kind of batteries.

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2008, 04:34:15 PM »
That's true, high voltage DC spikes/pulses will do the trick. I've also reversed the polarity of even Alkaline batteries, but they tend to reverse back to their normal polarity after a month or so. If they were zapped with high enough potential then they would probably stay reversed, at least for a long time.

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2008, 04:41:21 PM »
That's true, high voltage DC spikes/pulses will do the trick. I've also reversed the polarity of even Alkaline batteries, but they tend to reverse back to their normal polarity after a month or so. If they were zapped with high enough potential then they would probably stay reversed, at least for a long time.

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Polarity Reverse??? Wow, that is awesome. Because Leedskalnin also changed the poles of the magnets, so DC Electricity and Magnetic Field are something very related :) A guy said to me that a magnet was like a DC Static Energy... That could be true...

Explain me more about your experiment and let me know how did you made it.

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2008, 04:41:21 PM »
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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2008, 05:41:28 PM »
Hi Magnethos,

it can be done much more simple. Please have alook at the pic attached.


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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2008, 05:55:33 PM »
It's simple. I just placed about 6 9V batteries (all connected in series-- they just snap together forming a line of batteries) across a *dead* 9V and left it there for a few days. The longer you leave it, the more it will reverse. That's about 6*9V = 54 volts. If you wanted to do a good job at reversing the battery, then you'll need to pulse it with thousands of volts for awhile.

The same applies to rejuvenating a dead battery to the same polarity. Just apply spikes/pulses of high voltage. If you want to rejuvenating a really dead battery then you'll need small spikes/pulses in the thousands of volts.

PL

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Offline Magnethos

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2008, 07:02:56 PM »
Good info Kator1

It's simple. I just placed about 6 9V batteries (all connected in series-- they just snap together forming a line of batteries) across a *dead* 9V and left it there for a few days. The longer you leave it, the more it will reverse. That's about 6*9V = 54 volts. If you wanted to do a good job at reversing the battery, then you'll need to pulse it with thousands of volts for awhile.

The same applies to rejuvenating a dead battery to the same polarity. Just apply spikes/pulses of high voltage. If you want to rejuvenating a really dead battery then you'll need small spikes/pulses in the thousands of volts.

PL
The longer I leave it... the more it will reverse... so... There must be a point when the battery is APOLAR? I mean, if there is a reversion, then this polarity reversion is proportional to the time, of course. So, there is a process when the one pole is reversed to the other pole... like a way... the Pole has to go to the other pole... there must be a point where the 2 poles are in the "middle" and theoretically there won't be polarity in the battery and we would have an Apolar Battery...? Is that possible? I don't know...

The really interesting thing is Leedskalnin says in his book that the poles in a magnet can be reversed too, so magnetic flux and energy are very similar. But the problems seems to be that in a magnet, the Energy is Static and in a battery the Energy is Dinamyc.
We know that we can extract energy using a magnet and a coil. But we need movement to produce electricity. Floyd achieved the same result using a motionless system because he amplified the energy using magnets. Interesting.

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2008, 07:24:02 PM »
I'd agree the battery could be zero volts, but it probably would not stay there for very long. It would probably slowly drift back to it's original polarity.

As you said, PM's can also reverse. I've done that by pressing a Neo and frig PM together where they repel each other. They will repel until the neo gets close enough to the frig PM, and then the frig PM will flip and then they will attract. The neo has high coercivity, and it's strong enough to flip the weak frig PM.

PL

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2008, 07:38:34 PM »
I'd agree the battery could be zero volts, but it probably would not stay there for very long. It would probably slowly drift back to it's original polarity.

As you said, PM's can also reverse. I've done that by pressing a Neo and frig PM together where they repel each other. They will repel until the neo gets close enough to the frig PM, and then the frig PM will flip and then they will attract. The neo has high coercivity, and it's strong enough to flip the weak frig PM.

PL

Yes, if the battery is Apolar then it has 0 volts... like a dielectric field... So, a 50% polarity reversion maybe creates a Dielectric Field? I mean, a non conductive field like in wood or other materials??

Also we can say say that Magnetic Field and DC Energy are the same, but Magnetic Field is a DC Static Field.

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2008, 07:50:15 PM »
What's his name ... Edward Leedskalnin. He's the guy who built Coral Castle 60 years ago. Have you read his theory on magnetism?  It's fascinating!  He claims the magnetic field consists of a current of microscopic magnetic particles that flow in opposite directions. The positive polarity magnetic particles flow in the opposite direction as the negative polarity magnetic particles. Doesn't Ed talk about how to cause an offset so that more positive magnetic particles flow than negative? Anyway, I don't know much about Edward Leedskalnin's magnetic theory. I'm having far too much fun with conventional physics, and designing real "free energy" machines using the mathematics of conventional physics!   ;D

PL

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2008, 11:32:25 PM »
Wow, coral castle is awesome. yeah.
I have read the Magnetic Current book, it's very interesting. There is other author called Howard Johnson that explain the secret world of Magnets, but I prefer Ed's Book.
I have drawn the In and Out current as I see it. I know Ed says something about a third pole or something similar that is in between the 2 poles.

Have you heard about Neutrinos? I read a few of an italian book that explains about Neutrinos, Posintrinos, Electrinos and Magnetrinos, new sub-atomic particles. Of course, they are not new because the book is from 1950, but they are new for us. Maybe the magnetrinos are the magnetic particles, because I heard is possible to obtain energy from neutrinos.

I don't remember the exact theory, there are too much to read and Understand and more to Un-understand and forgot!!! hahaha.

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2008, 11:32:59 PM »
this is the picture as I see the magnetic current

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2008, 12:01:30 AM »
put two electrostatic charged balls under your sheet of glass and get the same picture

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2008, 10:49:41 AM »
put two electrostatic charged balls under your sheet of glass and get the same picture

Very interesting... reading your comment I have thought that we need a Unified Field Theory. I mean, a battery is a dipole because it has 2 poles, positive and negative. Magnet is also a dipole because it has 2 poles, positive and negative too. So, Battery = Magnet.

We need to remember that ALL matter is magnetic. Books says that wood i.e. is not magnetic, but that is not true. Wood is magnetic but it can't be compared with ferromagnetism. If ferromagnetism = 1, maybe wood is 0.00000000001 But it doesn't means that it isn't magnetic. Wood is much less magnetic that a magnet, but IS magnetic.

I have post that I think a Magnet is a Static DC electricity, and a guy said that he has reversed the poles of a battery and Leedskalnin shown that he could reverse the poles of a magnet. So, there is a lot in common, between a Magnet and DC electricity. The problem is DC is Dynamic and a Magnet is Static.

I remember that Steve Mark Toroidal Power Unit, was based in the same principle: extract energy from magnets.
Sweet Floyd also extracted (amplified) energy using magnets.
Leedskalnin also extracted energy from Magnets.
So... there is evident information that anyone can extract energy from magnets. We can extract energy from magnets too, moving the magnet inside a coil. But Steve Mark, Sweer Floyd and Leedskalnin shown that is possible to extract energy from magnets using a Motionless system.

I emailed yesterday to a guy and he said me that people can extract energy from magnets is we configure the magnets. I mean, the potential difference in magnets is 0, so we can't extract energy from magnets without reconfiguring them. I remember also that in this post I said...
What would happen if we reverse the polarity of a battery 50% only?
The answer was:
I'd agree the battery could be zero volts (When using an Apolar Battery, apolar means no potential difference or the same difference /50%/ in both poles sourth and north)

That is the same that happens in a magnet. A magnet has not potential different because it is like an Apolar Battery/50% Pole Reversion.

If we can configure a magnet, like Sweet Floyd made with his magnets, and change the potential difference... 40% 60% in example... we will have energy from the magnets.

I remember Floyd achieved the highest COP 1:1000000, I haven't seen never a higher COP (Coefficient of Performance or energy amplification).

Uhmm, this sounds very interesting  :D

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2008, 01:31:21 PM »
So, the key is to create a Magnet with asymmetric poles. Common magnets have simetrical poles (50% polarity each pole) and a battery is an example of asymmetric pole. Asymmetric means difference in the poles, this means Potential Difference.

Asymmetric poles = Difference of Electrical (Static/Scalar) Potential
Symmetric poles = NO difference of electrical potential.

So, Voltage and Polarization have a lot in common.

I remember that I read that energy is any order of the Virtual Particle Flux of the vacuum. Maybe that order is related with polarization process. When we draw energy, we're discharging the battery, that means we're de-polarizating the source or something similar. I think the discharge process is the Asymmetric to Symmetric Poles process and Charging means Symmetric so Asymmetric Poles.

Current maybe it's an effect from the Voltage.

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Re: Bring Dead Ni-Cad Batteries Back To Life
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2008, 07:35:55 PM »
i will kick myself if i don't reply to this.
what are you trying to do phase shift current to or from a battery a magnet is already phase shifted butch lafontte has already clearly demonstrated this with his demonstration with the washers and how do you make a magnet you wrap it with a coil of wire out of phase so you get a magnet you can't make a magnet any other way except charged potentials that are out of phase electrostatics is derived by phase shift and i thank you for making me realize this now as it answered many of my problems as well you are right but it will drive me crazy why didn't i see this before to simple thanks for the help.

 

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