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Author Topic: Dingel is a fraud !?! Will he be thrown into prison soon ?  (Read 6715 times)

Offline wile_coyote7

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Dingel is a fraud !?! Will he be thrown into prison soon ?
« on: December 22, 2008, 02:51:06 PM »
 ???
I just saw this article on KeelyNet:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20081220-179008/Inventor-82-gets-20-years-for-estafa

Looks like he took the money and ran.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2008, 02:37:57 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2008, 06:41:16 PM »
 :o
Suppression victim or crook?

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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2008, 10:15:29 PM »
:o
Suppression victim or crook?

possible an way, to "press hom out"
to become for low money his decrets.
(So that csn never opened for public"
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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2008, 10:15:29 PM »
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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2008, 07:49:14 AM »
Is that really a surprise? Dingel claimed he had the technology in 1969. He has been running the investor scam for at least thirty years with no results. If you search around you'll find articles from the late 1980's with the same claims.

At some point, if you rip off enough investors one of them is going to ensure you end up in jail.

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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2008, 08:09:15 AM »
I couldnt find any other source that mention hes going to jail for fraud.

Can any one confirm this news is real?  ???

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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2008, 03:43:23 AM »
I couldnt find any other source that mention hes going to jail for fraud.

Can any one confirm this news is real?  ???

His business partners in Switzerland seem to think it's real.

http://www.responsesource.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=44351


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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2008, 11:40:25 PM »
Here is the full article copied from :
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20081220-179008/Inventor-82-gets-20-years-for-estafa


Inventor, 82, gets 20 years for ‘estafa’

By Allison Lopez
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:11:00 12/20/2008

Filed Under: Crime, Automotive Equipment

MANILA, Philippines—Daniel Dingel, 82-year-old inventor of a “water-powered car,” has been convicted of “estafa” [swindling] and sentenced to a maximum of 20 years imprisonment by the Parañaque City Regional Trial Court.

The court also ordered him to pay $380,000 in actual damages.

Dingel, who has never revealed the secret to his invention, which he began in 1969, questioned the verdict but said he did not mind going to jail at his age. As of late Friday, he remained at large.

“‘Hindi ko naman kailangan ng pera’ [I don’t need the money],” he said. “I had bigger offers but I never took them. I never asked the government for a single centavo ... I just want to help.”

Dingel was found guilty of taking $410,000 from Dr. John Ding Young of Formosa Plastics Group, a Taiwanese company, which gave it to him as research and development funds.

The decision, written by Judge Rolando How of the court’s Branch 257 and released on Dec. 9, said Dingel defrauded Young when the inventor failed to fulfill his obligation of developing his “hydrogen reactor” and creating experimental cars in 2000.

Veteran lawyer Frank Chavez, who was approached by Dingel on Friday, said he would immediately appeal the court decision before it became final on Christmas Eve.

“I am taking up his case and will see to it that his conviction is reversed,” Chavez said. “Mankind will benefit from his invention ... How will we know his secret if we put him behind bars?”

Chavez, a former solicitor general, said he was impressed when he rode Dingel’s “water-powered” Toyota Corolla sedan.

Preliminary understanding

In his testimony to the court, Young said his group eagerly approached Dingel in November 2000 after hearing that he had discovered a way to extract hydrogen from ordinary water to power his 1996 Toyota Corolla.

The unique device — a “hydrogen reactor” resembling a 12-volt battery — impressed the Taiwanese when Dingel demonstrated how it powered and fueled the car’s engine. They were also told that fuel from water had clean emissions as it did not produce carbon the way gasoline did.

Convinced that the invention was genuine, Young and his group drew up a broad outline and signed a “preliminary understanding” with Dingel for several projects.

On Nov. 30, 2000, the inventor flew to the Formosa Plastics Group headquarters in Taipei and received $30,000 in goodwill money and $20,000 for research and development after signing a joint venture agreement.

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Young said Dingel asked for $300,000 to buy three cars to be used as prototypes for the invention when he returned to the Philippines.

He said that after receiving the money by wire transfer, Dingel avoided replying to his emails on the progress of the project and instead sent copies of letters from other foreign investors offering Dingel larger sums of money.

Young said that in September 2001 Dingel declined to sign the amended agreement when he was asked to go to Taipei to discuss mutual concerns on the project.

Young said he kept his end of the bargain by sending another $60,000 in additional funds for R&D as stated in the joint venture agreement.

He said it was then that Dingel began ignoring his communications. He said he sent demand letters for the return of $410,000 were but Dingel did not give the amount back.

Defense

In his defense, Dingel said he backed out of talks with the Taiwanese after he was pressured to divulge details of his project, which he said he refused to do to protect his invention.

Dingel said that after touring the plant in Taipei he was invited to become the company’s consultant and was asked to tour Formosa Plastics Group plants in Texas. He said he declined for fear for his life.

“‘Tumanggi ako kasi alam ko may pinatay na imbentor ng water-fueled car’ [I declined because I know another inventor of a water-fueled car had been murdered],” he said, referring to Stan Meyer, who allegedly received threats from oil companies and was allegedly poisoned in 1998 because of his pioneering invention.

Dingel admitted signing the joint agreement but said he did not know what he was signing at the time. He said an envelope containing $30,000 was given to him in appreciation of his consultancy work and $300,000 was remitted to him only as an incentive for submitting his drawings and designs.

The court found Dingel guilty of misappropriating the funds he received from Formosa Plastics Group.

Judge How said Dingel admitting that he received the funds and documentary evidence from Yung, such as the joint venture agreement, showed that the funds were given for “specific purposes.”

“Mr. Dingel did not use the money for the purpose it was intended,” the court decision said. “...He excused himself from producing or developing the prototypes allegedly after entertaining the notion that his invention would be stolen. Since he thought of it, he should have returned the money to Dr. Young and told the latter to forget his invention.”

The decision said that instead of returning the money, Dingel withdrew $375,603.89 from his bank account and left only $500.

“He admitted withdrawing the money after learning that a suit had been filed against him,” it said. “His act of immediately withdrawing the money indicated bad faith on his part.”

Judge How said Dingel failed to support with evidence his claim that he had earned the money and therefore had no obligation to return it.

He said Dingel’s reasoning that he did not read the joint venture agreement before signing it was “too flimsy to be given an ounce of consideration.”

“He did not purchase the three cars, [he] did not work on his research and [he] did not develop the invention ... Mr. Dingel’s misappropriation of the money has no doubt resulted to damage and prejudice of Dr. Young and the FPG in the sum of $380,000,” the decision said.

In an interview with the Philippine Daily Inquirer, Dingel said he was still willing to sell his biggest secret — on condition that the buyer would hire 200 Filipinos and their families.

He said the royalties to be paid to him would go to a foundation he would set up for the poor.

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Well, how long will Dingel still wait to sell his secret or give it to the poor ?

He is already 82 !

So Mr. Dingel , hurry up... You probably don´t have much time left...

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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
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Offline wizardofmars

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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2008, 03:51:47 AM »

Well, how long will Dingel still wait to sell his secret or give it to the poor ?

He is already 82 !

So Mr. Dingel , hurry up... You probably don´t have much time left...

That's exactly the point - he doesn't care. Foolish investors have paid for Dingel to live the last thirty years in grand style! If he can stay out of jail on appeal for a few more years, he'll likely be dead before justice is served.

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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2008, 04:55:17 AM »
Looks like another classic case of suppression. His mistake was not sharing the information he had. I hope others who are working on the same technology share their work with others; this is unfortunate, I hope we can all learn from this, finally.


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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2008, 06:56:29 AM »
Looks like another classic case of suppression.

How is it a case of suppression when Dingel has stolen millions from investors over 30 years??! If he was being suppressed, it sure took the bad guys a long time to get around to him!

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Re: Dingel is a fraud!?!
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2008, 02:27:52 PM »
His business partners in Switzerland seem to think it's real.

http://www.responsesource.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=44351



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WATER POWERED CAR INVENTOR SENTENCED TO 20 YEARS IMPRISONMENT!

    * Submitted by: Ethos GmbH Schweiz
    * Monday, 22 December 2008

Daniel beside his warter powered car

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Tägerwilen, Switzerland 21/12/2008 --/WORLD-WIRE/--

WATER POWERED CAR INVENTOR SENTENCED TO 20 YEARS IMPRISONMENT!

Daniel Dingle, the inventor of the world's first water powered car back in 1968, who Ethos CEO Peter Aldred met back in March of this year to discuss a strategic partner alliance with, has just been sentenced to 20 years in prison.

Peter Aldred commented, "This is very convenient for 'the powers that be' who do not want Daniel's secret to be reviled. But we have already renewed our previous negations and are confident now of a mutually beneficial outcome for all mankind..."

Inventor, 82, gets 20 years for ‘estafa’
By Allison Lopez
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:11:00 12/20/2008

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/2...

Veteran lawyer Frank Chavez, who was approached by Dingel on Friday, said he would immediately appeal the court decision before it became final on Christmas Eve.

“I am taking up his case and will see to it that his conviction is reversed,” Chavez said. “Mankind will benefit from his invention ... How will we know his secret if we put him behind bars?”

Chavez, a former solicitor general, said he was impressed when he rode Dingel’s “water-powered” Toyota Corolla sedan.

Peter continued, "The most interesting point to this article is the fact that in 2000 a multi-national corporation gave Daniel $410,000.

Do you think that a multi-national corporation of this stature would freely back a project like this without first doing their due diligence that the invention is in fact genuine and far from being a hoax as the powers that be would prefer everyone to believe! I know that I definitely would before parting with $410,000.

The case isn't disputing the fact that the invention works but rather, for whatever reason, that Daniel decided not to proceed with the project with them. Maybe he thought, like he said to me, they were just another group who wanted to steal his invention from him once they discovered the secret of how it actually works for themselves.

http://www.dinglefoundation.com

Why is it that all water powered car inventors seem to wind up either dead or in prison...? There seems to be a definite pattern immerging here... I will leave you to draw your own conclusions...

From: Atty. Joshua P. Lapuz
Date: Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: Update Dingel

Hi Pete,

As reported by Delfin, I acted as counsel for Mr. Dingel yesterday.

Mr. Dingel has been making constant follow ups on us and as far as Delfin and I are concerned, it is a done deal: Ethos will be the one to distribute and market his inventions anywhere in the world (except the Philippines and South Korea where there is already an exclusive distributor). All that is needed is the contract and your signatures.

Please send us a draft of your Memorandum of Agreements and I will review them as soon as you send them. Once everything is ready, all you and Mr. Dingel need to do is sign them. We would prefer for you to come over and personally sign the contracts.

Best regards,

Joshua

Atty. Joshua P. Lapu

Ethos World GmbH Schweiz
Hauptstr. 46
CH-8274 Tägerwilen
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Web: www.ethoseu.com
E-mail: sales@ethoseu.com

Swiss Tel: +41 71 669 1440
UK Tel: (+44) 01462 44 11 33
USA Tel: +1 951-723-4006


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P.S: If Wolfgang Czapp from Stuttgart , Germany would not have visited Dingel
in the 1990ies and would not have done the videotape which he
sent to me and I digitized and posted it all over the Internet,
Dingel would not have been this popular by now...

So Dingel owns us a big thank you.
Otherwise he would still only be an unknown inventor  in the Philipines....

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