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guruji

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #375 on: March 09, 2009, 08:21:16 PM »
@all

Here is another circuit that I am testing for a feed back to the source. It makes the source battery to last longer,

Jesus

Hi Nievesoliveras what's 7T on coils ?
Thanks for your circuits.

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #376 on: March 09, 2009, 08:31:35 PM »
Hi Nievesoliveras what's 7T on coils ?
Thanks for your circuits.



7 T-urns? ::)

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #377 on: March 09, 2009, 08:44:56 PM »
Hi Nievesoliveras what's 7T on coils ?
Thanks for your circuits.



7 T-urns? ::)

Yes it is 7 turns bifilar of 22awg wire

Jesus

Edit:

Just recheck the base resistor value for your specific toroid. Mine worked best with 10k resistor.

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #378 on: March 10, 2009, 03:24:15 PM »
@all

I have found some information about a self running motor called the Minato motor.  As always happen, there is some mistery about how to do it.

Has anybody done it?

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #379 on: March 10, 2009, 03:31:31 PM »
@jesus,
It would be better to start a separate topic on this.

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #380 on: March 10, 2009, 08:31:02 PM »
Hi Jesus:
    You may wish to look into the three phase wind gen head setups. I have a small one
that has six coils and eight magnets set up in star config. That makes two coils in series
per phase with one end of each set terminated together. The remaining ends go to a
three phase diode set up made up of one amp diodes. Does fairly good considering what
it is. Put a cap on the output of the diodes and hook it up to a motor, you have the self run
setup. It may be a balancing act to get the right combo, but I think that will do better.

   Using this setup you will eliminate a lot of the cogging effect. Take a piece of paper and
draw out the coils vs magnets and you can see how they interact with each other. Just
remember to put the magnets NSNSNSNS .

thay

guruji

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #381 on: March 10, 2009, 09:45:15 PM »
@all

Here is another circuit that I am testing for a feed back to the source. It makes the source battery to last longer,

Jesus

Hi Nievesoliveras did you check that circuit that you've said so that I can replicate it?
Thanks

nievesoliveras

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #382 on: March 11, 2009, 04:01:33 PM »
@jesus,
It would be better to start a separate topic on this.

Thank you @robbie47

I think that I will do that as soon as my internet connection gets stable. It is a little crazy. It works when it wants to. It is not reliable at this time.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #383 on: March 11, 2009, 08:12:57 PM »
Hi Jesus:
    You may wish to look into the three phase wind gen head setups. I have a small one
that has six coils and eight magnets set up in star config. That makes two coils in series
per phase with one end of each set terminated together. The remaining ends go to a
three phase diode set up made up of one amp diodes. Does fairly good considering what
it is. Put a cap on the output of the diodes and hook it up to a motor, you have the self run
setup. It may be a balancing act to get the right combo, but I think that will do better.

   Using this setup you will eliminate a lot of the cogging effect. Take a piece of paper and
draw out the coils vs magnets and you can see how they interact with each other. Just
remember to put the magnets NSNSNSNS .

thay


Thank you @thaelin

Could you make a rough sketch of what you propose?

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #384 on: March 11, 2009, 08:14:16 PM »
Hi Nievesoliveras did you check that circuit that you've said so that I can replicate it?
Thanks

Yes @guruji

I tested the circuit and it last longer than a regular one.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #385 on: March 13, 2009, 11:43:00 PM »
@all

I do need to reread this whole thread again in order to make a decision on what direction to take from here.

Jesus
« Last Edit: March 14, 2009, 12:14:36 AM by nievesoliveras »

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #386 on: March 14, 2009, 08:02:54 AM »
Jesus:

You are getting close.  You will get there.  Take a few days break from your work and come back with a fresh angle.  It usually works for me.  I suddenly wake up in the middle of the night with the answer only after I stop looking so hard for it.

I have said this elsewhere but, I think the answer lies in a combination of Newman, Bedini, Joule Thief, Tesla, Stubblefield and possibly a few other type devices.  It is the correct combination that will do it.  That is why I have been systematically learning all of these technologies. (or trying to)  Oh yes, and the answer will also involve supercaps.  Trust me on this because I don't know enough to be able to explain why at the moment.  Keep up your wonderful research Jesus.

Bill

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #387 on: March 14, 2009, 09:05:39 AM »
@nievesoliveras,

It appears that you have a radial array of egg-shaped coils.

If each coil were to emit electromagnetic waves, these waves would be distorted.  Although this may not be of your design or direction; it may be interesting to note an idea I posted a few weeks ago.  I'll quote myself from another thread here, and you can make what you will of it.  This passage is alluding to resonance and wind chimes.

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The tuning forks would show their potential if hung like wind chimes, and allowed to be free in the air, at this point both physical and oscillatory effect could be observed.  In this instance, the transference would be at it's least - at least in the realm of gravity, doing this on the space station may yield entirely different results requiring a different setup all together.

If you have a polar array of coils, each emitting pulses of electromagnetic radiation ( RF, or AM waves, etc. ) ..their fields will be both constructive and destructive in certain places.  Walter Lewin of MIT gives a good explanation of nodal lines ( hyperbolic destructive waveforms ) in his 33rd video lecture on electricity and magnetism at 11 minutes and 30 seconds into the video. ..if you would like to see the math, just watch the beginning of the lecture.  Here's a link:  http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-02Electricity-and-MagnetismSpring2002/VideoAndCaptions/detail/embed33.htm

So if you read the previous quote, and then watch the video, disregard the quote and think about this...

If you place your coils in particular places and induce resonance - there will be physical locations where any pickup coils will be more apt to receive constructive waves and some places more apt to be null.  In these circumstances, the number of coils adds to the chaos in the local magnetic field.

It will be as the thread title suggests: feedback to source - but it may be destructive.  After reading back a little in the thread, it looks like you're trying to create a pulse stepper motor.  My post may be of little relevance.

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #388 on: March 14, 2009, 01:18:55 PM »

jadaro2600

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #389 on: March 14, 2009, 07:44:16 PM »
Jadaro,
Do you mean something like this?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6967.msg163479#msg163479



Right, it's something I've been pondering after working with the joule thief circuit.