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nievesoliveras · « **Reply #285 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:53:03 PM »

Quote from: Mk1 on February 20, 2009, 10:41:53 PM

Congratulation!

You are a hard worker , and you did a great job! Some would has stopped way before , but not you , real good you did and shared all the way , Good bless you , my friend!

Mark

Thank you @mk1 !

Here are the photos I took through the computer connection.

Enjoy! Good replications!

Jesus

jonnydavro · « **Reply #286 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:55:43 PM »

Hi Jesus,Thanks for sharing your good news and how you obtained it.I have not made a Newman motor yet but when i do it will be based on your circuit.Great work Jesus regards Jonnydavro.

Mk1 · « **Reply #287 on:** February 20, 2009, 11:23:39 PM »

@jesus

Try to find 2 hair clipper , and get the coils in them, put one on each open side of your newman , this will give you 2 new power output.
On my bedini that give me 2x120 volts ac.

Mark

plengo · « **Reply #288 on:** February 20, 2009, 11:33:47 PM »

@nievesoliveras
That is very good. Thank you!

Do you think it will work with another motor such as an Adams or a Bedini instead of the Newman but using your schematics?

Fausto.

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #289 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:05:49 AM »

Quote from: @jonnydavro

Hi Jesus,Thanks for sharing your good news and how you obtained it.I have not made a Newman motor yet but when i do it will be based on your circuit.Great work Jesus regards Jonnydavro

Thank you @jonnydavro !

Quote from: @mk1

@jesus

Try to find 2 hair clipper , and get the coils in them, put one on each open side of your newman , this will give you 2 new power output.
On my bedini that give me 2x120 volts ac.

Mark

I will experiment with that. The only problem is the schematic of the coil connections.
I dont know where you mean to connect them.

Quote from: @plengo

@nievesoliveras
That is very good. Thank you!

Do you think it will work with another motor such as an Adams or a Bedini instead of the Newman but using your schematics?

Fausto.

I think that it will. Because they are pulse motors too.
The secret is on the joule thief toroid.

Jesus

Mk1 · « **Reply #290 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:14:34 AM »

The hair clipper coil are like pickup coil , just find something new to do with that power.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #291 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:37:16 AM »

@ Jesus:

Way to go man!!! I always knew you could do it. This is great watching all of the successes here on our forum. You have worked hard and long and helped many others, myself included, so, you deserve it buddy. Great Job!

Bill

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #292 on:** February 21, 2009, 12:44:24 AM »

Quote from: @mk1

The hair clipper coil are like pickup coil , just find something new to do with that power.

Thank you @mk1 !

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 21, 2009, 12:37:16 AM

@ Jesus:

Way to go man!!! I always knew you could do it. This is great watching all of the successes here on our forum. You have worked hard and long and helped many others, myself included, so, you deserve it buddy. Great Job!

Bill

Thank you @captain !
You have been an example and a good friend when needed most.

Jesus

Yucca · « **Reply #293 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:24:58 AM »

@Jesus,

Exciting times

, is it still running, if yes, what are the levels?

The aluminium covering on the bifilar wrap could well be where your magic lies. I will endeavour to replicate the JT side of things first (with the big electrolyric over the charging bats too).

I have such a wire as you used in a small USB cable for a SD card reader but IÂ´m reluctant to sacrifice it just yet. So I will try to carefuly coat a bifilar copper wire (multistrand) in a sleeve of alu kitchen foil using selotape.

edit:
removed some questions you have already answered earlier in thread.

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #294 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:43:34 AM »

Quote from: Yucca on February 21, 2009, 01:24:58 AM

@Jesus,

Exciting times , is it still running, if yes, what are the levels?

The source battery is .36v just right now. The charging batteries fluctuayes between 4.43v and 4.49v
If I use the voltmeter several times the charging batteries go down to 4.42v

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The aluminium covering on the bifilar wrap could well be where your magic lies. I will endeavour to replicate the JT side of things first (with the big electrolyric over the charging bats too). I will try to carefuly coat a bifilar copper wire (multistrand) in a sleeve of alu kitchen foil using selotape.

Q)
If you disconnect everything to the left of the 2200uF electrolytic, i.e. disconnect the pulse motor but leave the big electrolytic in. Then does your 4 series bat pack still recharge well? I have a feeling it might.

If I do disconnect the pulse motor coil the batteries keep charging better than with the pulse motor on, because the joule thief is providing the charge and not the pulse motor.
If I disconnect the 2200uf cap the source batteries go down until the motor stops. That was yesterday's test.

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NOTE:
If you donÂ´t know this info already then IÂ´m not asking that you do this test imediately by pulling your circuit to pieces, I imagine you will want to take your time without changing anything first to study the batteries responses further. I can wait as long as it takes for the info.

I have received different ideas, but almost all of the ideas want me to stop the motor and do some test. I will enjoy my success by looking at the pulse motor spinning and turning a little red LED salvaged from a camera flash circuit and an occassional little vertical dash of light from the neon bulb for a while and then I will stop it and try to make it run again with other old batteries I have stored to see if it works for real.

Jesus

hartiberlin · « **Reply #295 on:** February 21, 2009, 05:41:23 AM »

@nievesoliveras,

well done ! Congratulations.

Maybe you can try to put an additional
neon bulb between collector and emitter of the 2N4401 JT transistor ?

This will benefit your driving battery as it might not discharge anymore.

Then your 2N4401 JT transistor would work like a mechanical switch and when the
neon flashes it is like opening a mechanical switch where the neon plasma
feeds current spikes back to the negative terminal of the battery.

2. Do you have your alufoil around the 16 turn wire also connected anywhere
or is this alufoil just unconnected ?

I also guess it could be an effect, that the alufoil might do with shielding eddy currents
or something like this from the 16 turn bifilar coil.

Does this alufoil get warm during operation ?

Maybe the alufoil is really the secret over here.. ?

gadgetmall · « **Reply #296 on:** February 21, 2009, 05:49:30 AM »

Quote from: nievesoliveras on February 21, 2009, 01:43:34 AM

The source battery is .36v just right now. The charging batteries fluctuayes between 4.43v and 4.49v
If I use the voltmeter several times the charging batteries go down to 4.42v

If I do disconnect the pulse motor coil the batteries keep charging better than with the pulse motor on, because the joule thief is providing the charge and not the pulse motor.
If I disconnect the 2200uf cap the source batteries go down until the motor stops. That was yesterday's test.

I have received different ideas, but almost all of the ideas want me to stop the motor and do some test. I will enjoy my success by looking at the pulse motor spinning and turning a little red LED salvaged from a camera flash circuit and an occassional little vertical dash of light from the neon bulb for a while and then I will stop it and try to make it run again with other old batteries I have stored to see if it works for real.

Jesus

I know just how you feel Jesus . You keep right on running that lil babe and enjoy it then when you get the courage Solder it up so it don't fall to pieces .

I know how those little proto boards have a tendency for components to wiggle loose and short out on another leg and stuff

I would like to know the dimensions of your pipe you wound your Newman on please .thanks you and Well done My brother
God Bless and have fun !!

Gadget

duff · « **Reply #297 on:** February 21, 2009, 09:23:34 AM »

@nievesoliveras

I would suggest that you leave the motor running and do another build to see if you can replicate your work.

Good Work!

-Duff

hartiberlin · « **Reply #298 on:** February 21, 2009, 11:37:27 AM »

Yes, better leave it running for a few days, also without connecting the
volt and ampmeters to it,cause the wires radiate the energy away
and then better build a second prototype.

And also try to use a real circuit board as the white prototype boards
are only for experimentation to change things quickly, so better try
to solder it all up. then you will also see,
if your longer connection cables have any influence or the prototype
board stray capacitances.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #299 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:01:05 PM »

@all

Today I will stop the pulse motor, take the batteries out, and test them with the camera to see if they work.

Jesus

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