Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Tesla Paper

Free Energy Book

Get paid

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 84074
  • *Latest: qwee

  • *Total Posts: 894603
  • *Total Topics: 15736
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 3
  • *Guests: 13
  • *Total: 16

Author Topic: Feedback To Source  (Read 336839 times)

Offline nievesoliveras

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #105 on: January 18, 2009, 08:14:09 AM »
@Jesus . Nice work Man .  I have been building and building and designing feedback circuits by the hand full . If you need any parts like maybe germanium transistors to play with i have 120+ of them i bought off ebay . all different gains and base voltages . i would be glad to send you a bout 5 or 10 for a self addressed soft pack . and i will sort thru them like i have been doing getting the best gain vers bias for our / your low voltage 1.5 volt operation to further increase the positivity of the system for feedback to Source . you interested ?Drop me a pm and ill give you my address . I find this subject interesting because i do have a self runner but want to compact it to a solid state or at least Miniaturize the device to carry and power itself along with doing work . My Bedini weigh self runner weight about 40 pounds total and it ain't that portable   :o  . I hope My endeavorers will eventually help you . God Speed .. Al

I do accept your help. I have been trying to get parts from some part sellers and they all have some excuse for not sending the items I bought. I will PM you for the addresses. I am just tire now. It is 3am here. I am going off for today.
Thanks!!

Jesus

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #105 on: January 18, 2009, 08:14:09 AM »

Offline gyulasun

  • without_ads
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4068
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #106 on: January 18, 2009, 11:47:21 AM »
... I find this subject interesting because i do have a self runner but want to compact it to a solid state or at least Miniaturize the device to carry and power itself along with doing work .


Hi Al,

I wonder if your "self runner" runs by energy created by itself?  Do you mean that or "self runner" only a name ?

Any more details if you can?

Thanks, 
Gyula

Offline spinner

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 410
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #107 on: January 18, 2009, 12:36:32 PM »
Hi Al,

I wonder if your "self runner" runs by energy created by itself?  Do you mean that or "self runner" only a name ?

Any more details if you can?

Thanks, 
Gyula
Sorry to bump in, but - which "selfrunner" ???
Thanks!

@nievesoliveras
A resistor divider (potentiometer circuit) is widely used, but not for any kind of power intensive (or energy efficient) applications...
It works perfectly with a "high impedance" circuits (like measurement with a Universal digital V-meters...) Or, many High-Ohm electronical applications...

The name says it all. It's a "Voltage divider". It's Not the power divider.... Ohm's law.
Using a different resistor would cause the same theoretical voltage division (300 Ohm/100 Ohm is exactly the same as 300 MOhm/100 MOhm regarding a pure Voltage division...).
But in practice?

So if you want to use an efficient circuit to "match" a higher voltage source to lower voltage "drain" interaction, search for DC/DC down-converter circuits. They're much more efficient than a simple resistor divider (potentiometer) circuits.
Cheers!

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #107 on: January 18, 2009, 12:36:32 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline nievesoliveras

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #108 on: January 18, 2009, 01:42:25 PM »
Sorry to bump in, but - which "selfrunner" ???
Thanks!

@nievesoliveras
A resistor divider (potentiometer circuit) is widely used, but not for any kind of power intensive (or energy efficient) applications...
It works perfectly with a "high impedance" circuits (like measurement with a Universal digital V-meters...) Or, many High-Ohm electronical applications...

The name says it all. It's a "Voltage divider". It's Not the power divider.... Ohm's law.
Using a different resistor would cause the same theoretical voltage division (300 Ohm/100 Ohm is exactly the same as 300 MOhm/100 MOhm regarding a pure Voltage division...).
But in practice?

So if you want to use an efficient circuit to "match" a higher voltage source to lower voltage "drain" interaction, search for DC/DC down-converter circuits. They're much more efficient than a simple resistor divider (potentiometer) circuits.
Cheers!

I have the step down circuit already, but I need to finish this test plan to the letter to move to that other side of the experiments.

Jesus

Offline nievesoliveras

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #109 on: January 18, 2009, 01:46:24 PM »
According to plan steps 8, 9 and 10 are accomplished here.

When I tested the circuit with the 4 circuits composition, the leds and the neon bulb, only flicked very faintly. Meaning that there is not strength on the voltage from the coil.
I tried it directly just after the 2n4007 diode and got the same results, just a little brighter.

Even though this experiment has not worked as expected, I have learned a lot doing it. I will make some more tests.

Jesus

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #109 on: January 18, 2009, 01:46:24 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline nievesoliveras

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #110 on: January 18, 2009, 01:59:57 PM »
@gadgetmall

I did not included this circuit on the post I made yesterday at 3am, because the polarity of the transistor is not as usual and I did not dare to change it. Maybe I am wrong here, remember I dont have electronic education, what I know now is gathered while experimenting now.

Jesus

Offline Goat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #111 on: January 18, 2009, 04:54:44 PM »
Hi Al,

I wonder if your "self runner" runs by energy created by itself?  Do you mean that or "self runner" only a name ?

Any more details if you can?

Thanks, 
Gyula

@ gyulasun & spinner

I posted Gadgetmall's Bedini self runner in a new thread at http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6519.msg149358#msg149358

Regards,
Paul

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #111 on: January 18, 2009, 04:54:44 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline gadgetmall

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1733
    • Alternative Energy
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #112 on: January 18, 2009, 05:05:56 PM »
Your right . My transistor is pnp not npn. i'll correct it . it would be right with the pnp symbol i just wasn't thinking and stuck the first transistor symbol in there ... ???..My head hurts  :-[ Thanks for catching it .You are REal good at that and i admire that about you . I don't believe you about not knowing electronics ;D  I am getting used to a schematic drawing program and i usually draw these things late at night /early like you 3am and about have out of it .. EDIT . ARRRRHHH. Can you delete post . i don't see a delete option . i Think the darn led is reversed now . . anyways i never paid attention to the led symbol either so if the led don't light just reverse it ..feel free to correct any mistakes i made during my Novice drawings ..
« Last Edit: January 18, 2009, 06:16:19 PM by gadgetmall »

Offline gadgetmall

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1733
    • Alternative Energy
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #113 on: January 18, 2009, 05:56:26 PM »
@nievesoliver
                     In fact you can eliminate d3 all together . I have to dig that one out of My box of Jts and trace them out again .I know it worked asi  built it but im not sure on drawing it out polarity wise . forgive me . I haven't drawn a schematic in over 25 years . i just read them and build from them . I stick a part in there and if it don't light i reverse it :) i recall that the led is lighting from a non standard location and getting some voltage from the secondary and interfacing with the primary..I used it as an indicator for adjustments...I have to stop putting goop all over them to keep them from shorting out . that was before i got my little project proto board and the soldering pencil was what i used to hold it together . i gave a few to my daughter and made them pendant like so they wouldn't break apart. ;D PLease fix it for replication ... i need to take my meds...

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #113 on: January 18, 2009, 05:56:26 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline nievesoliveras

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #114 on: January 18, 2009, 09:57:41 PM »
Your right . My transistor is pnp not npn. i'll correct it . it would be right with the pnp symbol i just wasn't thinking and stuck the first transistor symbol in there ... ???..My head hurts  :-[ Thanks for catching it .You are REal good at that and i admire that about you . I don't believe you about not knowing electronics ;D  I am getting used to a schematic drawing program and i usually draw these things late at night /early like you 3am and about have out of it .. EDIT . ARRRRHHH. Can you delete post . i don't see a delete option . i Think the darn led is reversed now . . anyways i never paid attention to the led symbol either so if the led don't light just reverse it ..feel free to correct any mistakes i made during my Novice drawings ..
@nievesoliver
                     In fact you can eliminate d3 all together . I have to dig that one out of My box of Jts and trace them out again .I know it worked asi  built it but im not sure on drawing it out polarity wise . forgive me . I haven't drawn a schematic in over 25 years . i just read them and build from them . I stick a part in there and if it don't light i reverse it :) i recall that the led is lighting from a non standard location and getting some voltage from the secondary and interfacing with the primary..I used it as an indicator for adjustments...I have to stop putting goop all over them to keep them from shorting out . that was before i got my little project proto board and the soldering pencil was what i used to hold it together . i gave a few to my daughter and made them pendant like so they wouldn't break apart. ;D PLease fix it for replication ... i need to take my meds...

@gadgetmall

You are forgiven. The value in all this is your good intentions. Maybe you are like me that take several circuits and build one from them.
The knowledge of electronics I have are trying to make the bedini motor to feedback. If you notice the first thing that you have to deal with on that circuit is with the npn transistor. Hence I can tell when it is npn or pnp.

I will make the corrections you said and repost it again.

Jesus

Offline nievesoliveras

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #115 on: January 18, 2009, 11:16:49 PM »
@gadgetmall

As I promised, the circuit is reposted and your other JT circuit is included.

Jesus

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #115 on: January 18, 2009, 11:16:49 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline nievesoliveras

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #116 on: January 19, 2009, 12:54:36 PM »
Looking the way the flash circuit has a seven winds coil over the other two. I compared it with @mk1's idea and a light turned on inside my head.
I did this version of a transformer. I took the toroid and added the seven turns of wire over the other winding and connected as the audio transformer is connected. I will let you know what hapened.

Jesus

Offline nievesoliveras

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #117 on: January 20, 2009, 01:56:14 PM »
I tried all the transistors I have on this transformer and does not work configured as the audio transformer that suppose to go in that place.
By the way, the pot that is supposed to be used, was too big for the space and too difficult to connect, so I used the transistor formula posted before instead.

Edit:
Connected as it is, the LED should light and it is not.

Jesus

Offline gadgetmall

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1733
    • Alternative Energy
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #118 on: January 20, 2009, 04:02:50 PM »
hey Jesus which Schematic are you using ? Mine ? EDIT **** never mind i look back a few and i see you are trying Mk1 mod

 

Offline gadgetmall

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1733
    • Alternative Energy
Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #119 on: January 20, 2009, 04:11:41 PM »
@jesus
 Theres no reason My circuit couldn't work powering your motor and feeding back . If you wind a regular 40 turn Jt  then wind two more secondaries one with 12volts and the other 12volts ,replace the dc converter  and test run the Newman on the Jt output . you will need variable resistor in any circuit you put a load on to tune it for an output .. Have you tried that ? solder some wires on your pot so they can stick in the holes

 

OneLink