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Author Topic: Feedback To Source  (Read 387302 times)

nievesoliveras

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2009, 05:36:45 PM »
@all

Thanks to the help of @gyulasun we have another feedback to the source reference circuit to study!
The more circuits we have to analyze the more opportunities of success we have.
More info on this link: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5446.msg124693#msg124693

Jesus
« Last Edit: January 07, 2009, 04:05:39 AM by nievesoliveras »

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2009, 07:09:21 PM »
@mvmcman

Thanks for pointing that out, it seems that nobody else noticed it. Again thanks.

@all

As pointed out the second circuit on this link will make a short circuit if the ampmeter is connected that way.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.msg148303#msg148303
I will repair it as soon as I can and repost the changes.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2009, 08:58:22 PM »
Hi those circuits work or you're just testing?
Thanks

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2009, 02:49:29 AM »
@guruji
          Hello . I don't know about the other ones but My Circuit is Working for me .. Have a Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LczzeeyfFoA  also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnYQvYEwkM
there is a variable and its my piggy back coil . It was Pre Made in the 50's 60's and came from an old heavy duty Mercury Relay Switch . I peeked at the wire on it and its correct but i refuse to tear it apart . Judging by the core size and the weight i came up with the windings . Also the resistance is 40 ohms .
@ nievesoliver
 is there a parts list for the unmarked parts in the last Schematic?

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2009, 03:50:24 AM »
@guruji

The only circuit that I have tested is the one with the newman motor and 1.5v. It works as stated. What I am trying now is to make it recharge the source battery, hence the name of the thread "Feedback to the source".

@gadgetmall

The part unmarked on the last schematic is a resistor, @gyulasun states that it should be 47ohms the first time then change it as needed or eliminate it if testing you see that it works better without it.

The whole explanation comes from this link: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5446.msg124693#msg124693

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2009, 04:19:50 AM »
@mvmcman

The changes you recommended were made. Thank you. I will like to have clear that this is not my circuit.
My circuit is the 1.5v runner.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2009, 08:37:40 AM »
Hi Gadgetmall:
   On the coil, if you can identify the size of wire used, it can be figured out. Dimensions and hole size. By using the wire chart, by size you can figure out how many feet of wire are in it to make 40 ohms.  Can you post that info if known.  Thanks.

Thaelin


@guruji
          Hello . I don't know about the other ones but My Circuit is Working for me .. Have a Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LczzeeyfFoA  also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnYQvYEwkM
there is a variable and its my piggy back coil . It was Pre Made in the 50's 60's and came from an old heavy duty Mercury Relay Switch . I peeked at the wire on it and its correct but i refuse to tear it apart . Judging by the core size and the weight i came up with the windings . Also the resistance is 40 ohms .
@ nievesoliver
 is there a parts list for the unmarked parts in the last Schematic?

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #67 on: January 07, 2009, 12:56:09 PM »
Hi Gadgetmall:
   On the coil, if you can identify the size of wire used, it can be figured out. Dimensions and hole size. By using the wire chart, by size you can figure out how many feet of wire are in it to make 40 ohms.  Can you post that info if known.  Thanks.

Thaelin

@thaelin

I know the question is for @gadgetmall. But there is this small
Inductor Design Calculator
by David E. Powell, KA4KNG

That gives the exact lenght of wire needed among other things if you input the desired inductance, the gauge of the wire and the diameter of the coil. An example here:

-------------------------------------------------------------
Desired inductance in microhenries? 120
Gauge or diameter of wire in inches? 26
Diameter of coil form in inches? 2

calculating.

Overall coil diameter......   2.031884 inches
Average coil diameter......   2.015942 inches
Depth of coil..............   1.594223E-02 inches
Length of coil.............   .6855158 inches
Length of wire (approx)....   22 feet, 3 inches
Number of layers...........   1
Number of turns............   43
Number of turns per layer..   43
Actual inductance..........   121.426 microhenries
Coil DC resistance.........   .9261631 ohms
------------------------------------------------------------------------

So if you know the inductance that should have a coil with 40ohms and the other information this program needs, this program can give you the answer.

The small program is included here as a zipfile.

Jesus
« Last Edit: January 07, 2009, 04:07:26 PM by nievesoliveras »

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2009, 10:12:08 PM »
Hi Nievesoliveras can you please post the schematic of this 1.5v motor with newman motor?
If anyone tested those circuits of the 1.5v self runner please let us know?.
Thanks guys.

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2009, 11:32:13 AM »
Hi Nievesoliveras can you please post the schematic of this 1.5v motor with newman motor?
If anyone tested those circuits of the 1.5v self runner please let us know?.
Thanks guys.

@guruji

I have to make the schematic. I dont have a schematic done. I thought that the schematic presented was self explanatory. I will do my best to share the information.
I would like to see some replications made.

In the meantime you can see the excellent job of @jonnydavro on this link:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JPiTorYYlAU

Jesus
« Last Edit: January 08, 2009, 12:47:30 PM by nievesoliveras »

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #70 on: January 08, 2009, 03:49:28 PM »
The Circuit is composed of three different circuits.

One is the simplest Bedini circuit, the other is the flash circuit, the third is the step-up circuit.

I finished the last two. They are included.

The Bedini circuit is known worldwide. But if you want me to include it i will do.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2009, 04:15:35 PM »
@all

I has been very difficult to build this Bedini Circuit on WinQcad. The program ask for pins, package etc.

The three circuits together on one paint graphic is included.

I will try to connect them together eventually.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #72 on: January 08, 2009, 11:56:17 PM »
@all

First I must say that even though a circuit works for me, it does not mean that it will do exactly the same results for you.
I discovered that by changing the flash transformer for an audio transformer, the second potentiometer can be eliminated.
That is because the output voltage of an audio transformer is a lot less than that of a flash transformer.

The connections are the same, the only thing that changes is the output voltage used as feedback to the source.
I have not tested this circuit yet. This is supposed to be a group effort, but I have been left alone.

Jesus
« Last Edit: January 09, 2009, 12:22:17 AM by nievesoliveras »

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2009, 12:42:46 AM »
@ Jesus:

I am still here and reading your topic.  I have been very busy lately and have not had the time to try any of these ideas.....yet.  I just wanted you to know that I am here and reading everything posted.

Bill

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2009, 02:50:22 AM »
@pirate

Thank you pirate for your support.

Jesus