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Offline gadgetmall

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2009, 03:48:22 AM »
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Re: Feedback To Source
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2009, 04:00:42 AM »
@All      Dang Enter key !! I try to get a Gr and it Post every time . Sorry..
 Ok I am Still Here for you guys and have been up for days and night experimenting . I got another camera with macro and i am waiting for some parts and breadboard to come in . Great Job Collecting those schematics Jesus . They are helpful .In between Jule  Thief thread and this one is taking all the time on line to read if you know what i mean . Plus daily Life as a Dad /mom is killing me . that is why i stay up until 3 in the morn at the kitchen table experimenting . I made a Joule thief with  2-40  windings number 22 then on top of that i put 100 windings number 32 and on the other side 20 turns number 16 . I hooked the 32 up to a diode and cap and fed back to the battery . Guess what ? It is slowing down the discharge rate id say a factor of 75 % . i actually see the voltage from a partially dead battery ie 1.100 volts go to 1.115 . . Ok so i put a pot on the base to further reduce the transistor base voltage and put a pot on the output to battery so i could regulate the feedback to source and keep the led lit . i also have another led lit on the number 16 wire . I will probably rectify it and feed it back as well .. they have been running for two days now with just a minimal drop in primary aaa battery ..thats all for now . Kirk out !

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2009, 04:42:19 AM »
@ gadgetmall

Thanks for posting, those are promising results!  If the 20 turns of number 16 could handle it, could it be fed to a separate identical circuit and have an even further gain before feedback?  Just wondering  ???

I've been looking over your Bedini feedback but I'm still missing some information.  I don't want to clutter this thread so would it be OK with you if you or I were to open a new thread in the Bedini section and post all the information you gave so far to try and sort it all out? 

@ Jesus - You are not alone, I watch this and other threads but don't respond much, don't despair though, I see the work you and others are doing, it doesn't go unnoticed.  Don't give up  ;)

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #77 on: January 09, 2009, 04:42:19 AM »
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #78 on: January 09, 2009, 02:13:02 PM »
@All      Dang Enter key !! I try to get a Gr and it Post every time . Sorry..
 Ok I am Still Here for you guys and have been up for days and night experimenting . I got another camera with macro and i am waiting for some parts and breadboard to come in . Great Job Collecting those schematics Jesus . They are helpful .In between Jule  Thief thread and this one is taking all the time on line to read if you know what i mean . Plus daily Life as a Dad /mom is killing me . that is why i stay up until 3 in the morn at the kitchen table experimenting . I made a Joule thief with  2-40  windings number 22 then on top of that i put 100 windings number 32 and on the other side 20 turns number 16 . I hooked the 32 up to a diode and cap and fed back to the battery . Guess what ? It is slowing down the discharge rate id say a factor of 75 % . i actually see the voltage from a partially dead battery ie 1.100 volts go to 1.115 . . Ok so i put a pot on the base to further reduce the transistor base voltage and put a pot on the output to battery so i could regulate the feedback to source and keep the led lit . i also have another led lit on the number 16 wire . I will probably rectify it and feed it back as well .. they have been running for two days now with just a minimal drop in primary aaa battery ..thats all for now . Kirk out !
@ gadgetmall

Thanks for posting, those are promising results!  If the 20 turns of number 16 could handle it, could it be fed to a separate identical circuit and have an even further gain before feedback?  Just wondering  ???

I've been looking over your Bedini feedback but I'm still missing some information.  I don't want to clutter this thread so would it be OK with you if you or I were to open a new thread in the Bedini section and post all the information you gave so far to try and sort it all out? 

@ Jesus - You are not alone, I watch this and other threads but don't respond much, don't despair though, I see the work you and others are doing, it doesn't go unnoticed.  Don't give up  ;)

Regards,
Paul





Once and I dont remember where I posted the results of a Joule thief that was recharging batteries. It was very small the amount of charge it was giving. But I remember that the battery was very low and was revived by the Joule thief recharge.

I began experimenting with flash circuits and had to use the breadborad and disassemble the joule thief circuit. That circuit was so good that the toroid coil seemed to be singing a tune while it was working. Later I learned that it needed a drop or two of shellac to keep her quiet.
What I dont remember was the amount of windings I used and I dont know if I posted it that day.

@goat you can open any new thread you want and post all the information you like from this thread this information is public now.

I have not done the new toroid coil with the new way of winding it, because I still do not have it clear inside my mind. If I can do it inside my mind, I can do it in the outside world.

Thank you.

Jesus


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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #79 on: January 09, 2009, 06:10:36 PM »
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In the meantime I wait for the parts from goldmine I sent for, I found an intersting video that relates to a magnetic mill thread that was closed because the one that made the invention got stuck on a loop repeating the same thing over and over.
His idea was great but...
The link for a video that explains briefly how to accomplish the rotor movement with just magnets is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHWN4V3Qe0w

I hope that it works and be to some help for someone.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #79 on: January 09, 2009, 06:10:36 PM »
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2009, 03:52:13 AM »
@ Jesus:

I just posted a way to possibly "close the loop" in the JT topic area.  This idea was presented to me from Hans Vonlieven.  I did not want to repost it here as it is not exactly using the same approach as you are, but the results may be the same.

See what you think and if you like the idea.  Feel free to post it here too.

Bill

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2009, 01:05:29 PM »
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Here is another possible feedback to the source circuit.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2009, 09:10:54 PM »
@ Jesus:

I just posted a way to possibly "close the loop" in the JT topic area.  This idea was presented to me from Hans Vonlieven.  I did not want to repost it here as it is not exactly using the same approach as you are, but the results may be the same.

See what you think and if you like the idea.  Feel free to post it here too.

Bill

@pirate

I dont know why but your message were not there yesterday when I posted the last circuit and now it appears before the circuit post.

Thank you pirate, I posted a photo yesterday at Joule thief thread that has a solar panel on an ice box that was a self runner. I have tried to get the link again and it seems tha it has been removed.
I have to answer a question from a member of your thread and I will post a link for something that was on the competition that date.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2009, 11:17:33 PM »
Hi guys regarding the Marcus Wagner circuit can one exclude the input and output 12v 20w bulb and without volt and ampmeter too?
Thanks

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Re: Feedback To Source
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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #84 on: January 11, 2009, 02:33:30 AM »
Hi guys regarding the Marcus Wagner circuit can one exclude the input and output 12v 20w bulb and without volt and ampmeter too?
Thanks

I got understood that you can get rid of the voltmeters and the ampmeters, but the input and output bulbs are a must to the circuit. They must stay.

@energymover gave me this link: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:MWC:Schematic
You can go there and there is all the information about that circuit.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #85 on: January 11, 2009, 01:40:08 PM »
@all

You all know that my direction is the feedback to the source. I found on @pirate's thread a toroid coil design that could be used to obtain feedback to recharge the running battery, the good part is that it is running with just 1.5v battery and its outpput is like the flash circuit transformer, maybe a little less, because it is still going on testing. But I really think that if it is well understood, it can help us with the circuits we build needing an expensive transformer.

I will post the team work from that group here as a reference for later use.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #86 on: January 11, 2009, 02:00:10 PM »
@all

I would like to give credit to all those people that in one way or another has helped us on this thread.

@cap-z-ro, @ramset, @innovation-station, @spinner, @abbarue, @pirate88179, @goat, @gadgetmall, @hartiberlin, @guruji, @gyulasun, @mvmcman, @thaelin,

To all the team from @pirate's thread I take my hat off before you all.

And if you think that you should also be mentioned here, The thanks go to you too.

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2009, 02:18:57 PM »

Your tireless contribution toward the common good is evident jesus bears mention...you and those you have been working with are an inspiration to us all.

People like me are just providing support and encouragement, with the odd suggestion...the bulk of the load is on the backs of the active builders.

The spirit of cooperation and teamwork among this group is an example for all to follow.

Regards...


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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #88 on: January 12, 2009, 12:59:03 AM »
Thank you @cap-z-ro

Jesus

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Re: Feedback To Source
« Reply #89 on: January 12, 2009, 02:31:14 AM »
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