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Title: The earth is perpetual motion
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on December 20, 2008, 10:29:53 PM
The earth is spun useing it's own magnetic field in conjuction with the other planets and stuff, it does not get it's sticky spot.

There you go ultimate proof that stuff can be 'spun' with magnets, and the earth is like a magnet.

If you are a nay sayer to that, keep looking at the earth and keep saying it.

If you observe the magnetic field carefully in conjuction with the rest of the planets and know what causes it carefully you will master how to get a overunity/energy from magnet kinetic power.

Okay so the earth is lets say like a bar magnet, it does nothing so what is the outside cause to make it spin, is what you must observe and relate it to like well magnets.

Look at the universe of overunity.

http://e.imagehost.org/0615/Untitled_7.jpg < the secret your after

Sorry but some things which are simple are hard to see with confusion so there is some food for thought.

Another thing the earth is a capacitor as well, and since the earth is overunity and according to the research about capacitors it really does have credit that it can bring overunity, the earth is an example here as well.

After all the earth with it's capacitor has hz cycles and the research here about that and as i already know the earth is overunity in conjunction is close to understanding it, just got to know what supplies the earth with it's energy that's all from an outside source.

Telsa and Other people studied the earth, rumours of overunity but i am beyond doubt, it is overunity you just got to study the process

Title: Re: The earth is perpetual motion
Post by: Danner on December 22, 2008, 10:29:35 PM
  The earth is slowing down over time so I disagree that the earth is perpetual motion  (They occasionally have to add a second to the atomic clock in Colorado because the earth's rotation is slowing).  It is amazing it does not slow down faster, but it does slow down over time.  I would assume anything caused by its rotation would also weaken over time...although we won't ever notice it in our short life spans.

Merry Christmas!

Danner
Title: Re: The earth is perpetual motion
Post by: utilitarian on December 24, 2008, 12:00:50 AM

Telsa and Other people studied the earth, rumours of overunity but i am beyond doubt, it is overunity you just got to study the process


If you are beyond doubt about this, that is a serious error, because you are basing your unalterable conviction on very flimsy foundations.  As a person interested in science, you should be very careful what you are beyond doubt about.  I am a skeptic, but I am ready to change my views given sufficient evidence.

As to your observations, you are confusing perpetual motion, as in "unity", with an overunity device.  Given zero (or almost zero) friction, which the Earth experiences while rotating around the Sun, the Earth will rotate for a very long time.  But rest assured, as soon as you try to draw energy from the rotation, you will notice it slow down, with disastrous consequences, namely plunging into the Sun.

As far as the Earth's rotation about its own axis, as Danner astutely pointed out, that rotation is actually slowing down over time.  600 million years ago, the earth day was 22 hours.  The reson for this is tidal friction, caused by the Moon.  So tidal power generators are not getting energy from nowhere.  The earth pays for this from a limited pool, namely the difference between the rotation of the Moon and the rate of its own spin.

Ultimately, what is predicted is that the Moon's rotation around the Earth will match the Earth's spin, so there will be no more tides.

And your obeservation regarding the Earth's magnetic field does not quite make sense.  We have ordinary permanent magnets which emit a field, and we cannot draw energy from them, so why is the Earth any different?
Title: Re: The earth is perpetual motion
Post by: dsmer1991 on January 20, 2009, 03:04:54 AM
all of this "spin" is caused by gravity and that gravity comes from A HUGE NUCLEAR FIRE  called the sun and the sun will burn out and go supernova and we will be long gone by then but it is not OU.
Title: Re: The earth is perpetual motion
Post by: mscoffman on January 24, 2009, 06:17:16 PM
all of this "spin" is caused by gravity and that gravity comes from A HUGE NUCLEAR FIRE  called the sun and the sun will burn out and go supernova and we will be long gone by then but it is not OU.

The earth spins because of momentum retained from the particles that made it up when the solar
system formed. It's a massive energy but still finite supply and does not represent perpetual
motion.

The earth revolves around the sun for the same reason. Gravity causes tidal friction that couples
the earths spinning to the revolving. So beside slowing down, the earth is slowly moving away
from the sun in larger orbits. The earth's moon is also doing the same thing.

Orbits are interesting in that the absolute energy is less when the planetary body is rotating further
from it's center and more closer in it is.

:S:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: The earth is perpetual motion
Post by: Red on January 26, 2009, 03:43:27 PM
Keep in mind the rotation exists within a vacuum. There is very little resistance or friction if any. If you were to spin a spinning top and place that into a frictionless vacuum the thing would spin literally for years if not a century..
Title: Re: The earth is perpetual motion
Post by: Low-Q on January 26, 2009, 10:04:59 PM
Hi,

I have another view on why the earth is slowing down its revolutions. Some one said the earth was spinning one round in 22 hours 600 million years ago. How much wight gain has the earth got since then?
It should gained at least 10% weight over this long time. We are bombarded with cosmic matter all the time - in fact quite many tons each day. Even if most of it burns up in the atmosphere, the mass is still there falling down to earth surface at last. Wouldn't an increasing weight slow down the earth revolutions?

Just my alternative point of view :)

Br.

Vidar
Title: Re: The earth is perpetual motion
Post by: Red on January 27, 2009, 10:11:30 AM
The bulk of material is water of which some 30% escapes again. The earth gains 1 for every 3 atoms as it also looses 1 naturally. The rest is iron and nickel mostly with carbon and then nitrogen as gas.

Yes it has gained bulk in the years, some 120 % by volume since life began. We know this by fossil records and ancient oceans. Almost all land has been underwater at some stage but all land has remained in situ since formation. Therefore the Earth itself has grown in mass considerably. Rotation of a single body would not be affected as much. The Earth has 2 influence of resistance, the Sun and the Moon with other bodies insignificant but still present. The Moon is slowing Earth as much as the Earth has trapped the moon. If the Earth had no oceans, liquids as it does then the effect would be reduced considerably.
Title: Re: The earth is perpetual motion
Post by: Low-Q on January 27, 2009, 11:02:39 PM
The bulk of material is water of which some 30% escapes again. The earth gains 1 for every 3 atoms as it also looses 1 naturally. The rest is iron and nickel mostly with carbon and then nitrogen as gas.

Yes it has gained bulk in the years, some 120 % by volume since life began. We know this by fossil records and ancient oceans. Almost all land has been underwater at some stage but all land has remained in situ since formation. Therefore the Earth itself has grown in mass considerably. Rotation of a single body would not be affected as much. The Earth has 2 influence of resistance, the Sun and the Moon with other bodies insignificant but still present. The Moon is slowing Earth as much as the Earth has trapped the moon. If the Earth had no oceans, liquids as it does then the effect would be reduced considerably.
But the spinning will slow down as the diameter increase? Like those figure skaters when the arms ar closing to the bodey the spin goes up, and visa versa...

The sun and the moon shouldnt, by my opinion, not affect the earth spinning at all. I cant see any reason for that. There is only speculations on why or how the moon and the sun influence the spinning earth - as far as I know... but maybe I'm wrong. It's just speculations :)

Vidar