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Title: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: b0rg13 on December 19, 2008, 01:14:00 AM
Chemtrails versus Contrails:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6q8H6ASKgM

Compare it to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq4-dGozMsU
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: AhuraMazda on December 19, 2008, 01:29:29 PM
Sadly most people refuse to believe that something sinister is goin on with chemtrails. Just see how many people have looked at this post.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 19, 2008, 07:26:06 PM
I think that it is not people refusing to believe, its just that it doesn't affect their lives directly yet...people in general are like a big dumb bull....if there is not a big red cloth waiving in their face they don't care.....I see the chem trails almost everyday here in Texas and some damn strange looking clouds too....
I don't see how you can miss it....

 I know the magnetosphere plays a big part in protecting us, all in a delicate balance. I wonder if adding that crap alters magnetic permeability and the conductivity of the atmosphere and in turn the magnetosphere...
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PaulLowrance on December 19, 2008, 07:30:30 PM
Quote
people in general are like a big dumb bull....if there is not a big red cloth waiving in their face they don't care.....
lol, that's so true!
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: z.monkey on December 21, 2008, 12:43:18 PM
You know I have been skeptical about chemtrails.

But I see these clouds that just could not be formed naturally.

They a long, linear clouds that seem to hang in space forever.

Some even cross making a giant X in the sky.

I am hypothesizing, but if a plane were to leave a trail of a fine powder that is falling the particles would disperse and make the "contrail" expand as it falls toward the ground.  The trail would get wider and less dense as it falls.  This would create these funny clouds that I have been seeing.

One day in the sky above Dallas we had parallel striped clouds, chek out this picture...
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 21, 2008, 03:27:23 PM

The fact that they do not even bother to disguise what they are doing, and that they brazenly create recognizable symbols and patterns, to me means that they think they cannot be stopped.

Are they right...or are they simply foolhardy ?

For all our sakes, I hope its the latter.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 22, 2008, 07:14:46 PM
Hello all,

I am 25 years old, My first word was SKY, I don't remember seeing contrails like that when I was growing up and I lived by an airport,
then about 18 heard about and noticed the contrails, i remember looking at contrails and rarely seeing one become anything more than just a little pinch of cloud but now

I have seen one of two things happen when they fly and leave a large contrail-
the contrails spread out to form low level bumpy clouds
or the contrails spread thin and wispy out then slowly completely dissipate all the clouds till there isn't a cloud in the sky.
Plus why wouldn't the gov. be involved in it, its a logical and reachable goal to control the weather, the only weird thing is that its denied by most folks as well as any possible dangers...I just think its the dumb bull effect, people will deny anything TILL ITS RIGHT IN THEIR FACE
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 22, 2008, 07:16:48 PM
I suspect its the same for overunity too!
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 22, 2008, 07:35:20 PM
have a look at this patent...

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat3899144.pdf (http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat3899144.pdf)

Still doubt?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 22, 2008, 08:03:19 PM

Well...that Patent was quite revealing.

The fact that they are denying the spraying is reason enough for great concern.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 22, 2008, 08:44:02 PM
yeah its likely to be used for all kinds of things, doesn't mean it isn't also being used for weather control,

The patent specifically includes TiO2, and a wikipedia search says

"Titanium dioxide is the most widely used white pigment because of its brightness and very high refractive index (n=2.7), in which it is surpassed only by a few other materials. Approximately 4 million tons of pigmentary TiO2 are consumed annually worldwide. When deposited as a thin film, its refractive index and colour make it an excellent reflective optical coating for dielectric mirrors and some gemstones, for example "mystic fire topaz". TiO2 is also an effective opacifier in powder form, where it is employed as a pigment to provide whiteness and opacity to products such as paints, coatings, plastics, papers, inks, foods, medicines (i.e. pills and tablets) as well as most toothpastes. Opacity is improved by optimal sizing of the titanium dioxide particles.

Used as a white food colouring, it has E number E171. Titanium dioxide is often used to whiten skim milk; this has been shown statistically to increase skim milk's palatability.[14]

In cosmetic and skin care products, titanium dioxide is used both as a pigment and a thickener. It is also used as a tattoo pigment and styptic pencils.

This pigment is used extensively in plastics and other applications for its UV resistant properties where it acts as a UV absorber, efficiently transforming destructive UV light energy into heat.

In ceramic glazes titanium dioxide acts as an opacifier and seeds crystal formation.

In almost every sunscreen with a physical blocker, titanium dioxide is found because of its high refractive index, its strong UV light absorbing capabilities and its resistance to discolouration under ultraviolet light. This advantage enhances its stability and ability to protect the skin from ultraviolet light. Sunscreens designed for infants or people with sensitive skin are often based on titanium dioxide and/or zinc oxide, as these mineral UV blockers are less likely to cause skin irritation than chemical UV absorber ingredients, such as avobenzone.

Titanium oxide is also used as a semiconductor.[15]"
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As a photocatalyst
Titanium dioxide, particularly in the anatase form, is a photocatalyst under ultraviolet light. Recently it has been found that titanium dioxide, when spiked with nitrogen ions, or doped with metal oxide like tungsten trioxide, is also a photocatalyst under visible and UV light. The strong oxidative potential of the positive holes oxidizes water to create hydroxyl radicals. It can also oxidize oxygen or organic materials directly. Titanium dioxide is thus added to paints, cements, windows, tiles, or other products for sterilizing, deodorizing and anti-fouling properties and is also used as a hydrolysis catalyst. It is also used in the Graetzel cell, a type of chemical solar cell.

The photocatalytic properties of titanium dioxide were discovered by Akira Fujishima in 1967. The process on the surface of the titanium dioxide was called the Honda-Fujishima effect [16].

Titanium dioxide has potential for use in energy production: as a photocatalyst, it can

carry out hydrolysis; i.e., break water into hydrogen and oxygen. Were the hydrogen collected, it could be used as a fuel. The efficiency of this process can be greatly improved by doping the oxide with carbon, as described in "Carbon-doped titanium dioxide is an effective photocatalyst" [17].
produce electricity when in nanoparticle form. Research suggests that by using these nanoparticles to form the pixels of a screen, they generate electricity when transparent and under the influence of light. If subjected to electricity on the other hand, the nanoparticles blacken, forming the basic characteristics of a LCD screen. According to creator Zoran Radivojevic, Nokia has already built a functional 200-by-200-pixel monochromatic screen which is energetically self-sufficient.
As TiO2 is exposed to UV light, it becomes increasingly hydrophilic; thus, it can be used for anti-fogging coatings or self-cleaning windows. TiO2 incorporated into outdoor building materials, such as paving stones in noxer blocks or paints, can substantially reduce concentrations of airborne pollutants such as volatile organic compounds and nitrogen oxides [18].

A photocatalytic cement that uses titanium dioxide as a primary component was included in Time's Top 50 Inventions of 2008 [19].


[edit] For wastewater remediation
TiO2 offers great potential as an industrial technology for detoxification or remediation of wastewater due to several factors.

The process occurs under ambient conditions very slowly, direct UV light exposure increases the rate of reaction.
The formation of photocyclized intermediate products, unlike direct photolysis techniques, is avoided.
Oxidation of the substrates to CO2 is complete.
The photocatalyst is inexpensive and has a high turnover.
TiO2 can be supported on suitable reactor substrates.


In chemistry, photocatalysis is the acceleration of a photoreaction in the presence of a catalyst. In catalysed photolysis, light is absorbed by an adsorbed substrate. In photogenerated catalysis the photocatalytic activity (PCA) depends on the ability of the catalyst to create electron–hole pairs, which generate free radicals (hydroxyl radicals: OH) able to undergo secondary reactions. Its comprehension has been made possible ever since the discovery of water electrolysis by means of the titanium dioxide. Commercial application of the process is called Advanced Oxidation Process(es) (AOP) [1]. There are several methods of achieving AOP's, that can but do not necessarily involve TiO2 or even the use of UV. Generally the defining factor is the production and use of the hydroxyl ion.

Examples:

Conversion of water to hydrogen gas by water splitting photocatalysis [1]. An efficient photocatalyst in the UV range is based on a Sodium tantalum oxide NaTaO3 with cocatalyst nickel oxide. The surface of the Sodium tantalum oxide crystals is grooved with so called nanosteps that is a result of doping with Lanthanum (3-15 nm range, see nanotechnology). The NiO particles which facilitate hydrogen gas evolution are present on the edges, the oxygen gas evolves from the grooves.
Use of titanium dioxide in self cleaning coatings. Free radicals [1]generated from TiO2 oxidize organic matter. [2]
Disinfection of water by titanium dioxide photocatalysis [2].
Oxidation of organic contaminants using magnetic particles that are coated with titanium dioxide nanoparticles and agitated using a magnetic field while being exposed to UV light [2].
Use of photocatalysis in self-cleaning glass.
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take what you want from this its enough for me to suspect SOMTHING is going on, what that might be, i dunno
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 22, 2008, 08:56:08 PM
http://www.weathermod.com/ (http://www.weathermod.com/)
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 22, 2008, 08:56:50 PM

I heard some gov spook on the frankly speaking radio show...he was claiming it was an additive making for a more efficient burn in all jet fuel.

I have never seen a commercial jet expel a the contrails we are referring to.

They emit a 'vapor trail' which dissipates quickly.

The gov spook was lying through his teeth...Frank accepted the story as truth.

That was the last time I tuned into Frankly Speaking radio.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 22, 2008, 09:06:34 PM
Yeah...and fluoride is added to the water to help your teeth, not cause its a byproduct of uranium production and it leaked(or was dumped) into everything...
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: pese on December 22, 2008, 09:40:58 PM
Yeah...and fluoride is added to the water to help your teeth, not cause its a byproduct of uranium production and it leaked(or was dumped) into everything...

Fluor?

Yes this help all ....!

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/506.html
G.Pese
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 22, 2008, 09:42:37 PM

Edit: This is in reference to fluoride...missed the above post by pese.
Also, it renders the injester passive...like the dumb cows we apparently are collectively...Reportedly Hitler flushed the water systems with fluoride before invading Poland

An added bonus is its neuro toxic properties...not to mention its a great bone cancer starter.

Just what the doctor ordered...

Mengela that is...Joseph,
Torture tools...wounds and scars.

Take your skin off...stings like hell,
Y'all get burned up now, ya hear.

Sung to the Beverly Hillbillies theme song...for those who like to sing.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hansvonlieven on December 22, 2008, 09:49:04 PM
http://www.weathermod.com/ (http://www.weathermod.com/)

Now THAT is really scary Pyrodin,

I knew about cloud seeding of course, they have been using it on occasion in Australia since the 1950's, like seeding with dry ice pellets and silver compounds but I had no idea the practice was so widespread that manufacturers of equipment have sprung up and presumably make a good living out of it.

This takes the technology out of the hands of government where it once was and allows anyone with enough resources (like multinationals) to fuck around with the weather at will. There don't seem to be any controls in place, no permits required and so forth which is effectively a free for all.

You don't have to look for a conspiracy, it seems evident that greed and the mighty dollar are enough motivation. Short term gain and a fuck you attitude by ruthless organisations have caused inestimable damage to the planet and this appears to be just another instance.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 22, 2008, 10:06:36 PM
@hansvonlieven

Agreed....could not have said it better myself....
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 22, 2008, 10:09:18 PM
http://www.weathermod.com/ (http://www.weathermod.com/)
fargo, thats my home town. i have a friend who works there, should i ask if they are up to nefarious doings?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hansvonlieven on December 22, 2008, 10:16:25 PM
fargo, thats my home town. i have a friend who works there, should i ask if they are up to nefarious doings?

It would be really helpful if you could find out how much of this equipment is being sold by this company world-wide. It will give us at least an idea of the size of the problem.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 22, 2008, 10:20:47 PM
It would be really helpful if you could find out how much of this equipment is being sold by this company world-wide. It will give us at least an idea of the size of the problem.

Hans von Lieven

oh it's a problem? i'll just knife him in his sleep then ;)
honestly i am more concerned about the emissions of automobiles on our streets and from manufacturing plants than i am over this...
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 22, 2008, 10:41:49 PM
Well, just because the word conspiracy is attached to something does not mean its all horseshit and this is just the tip of the iceberg anyway........
blue pill or the red pill right?
once you start learning, how much do you really want to know? how much you believe is up to you

but remember Fyodor Dostoevsky sometimes people do things because they can even if it is against their own best interest

honestly i am more concerned about the emissions of automobiles on our streets and from manufacturing plants than i am over this...

as for automobiles on our streets manufacturing plants, these will go the way of the dodo eventually I think, new tech will solve all those problems and create just as many more...gas will pass in a blink of an eye in human history.....can't last forever
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 22, 2008, 10:52:04 PM
Well, just because the word conspiracy is attached to something does not mean its all horseshit and this is just the tip of the iceberg anyway........
blue pill or the red pill right?
once you start learning, how much do you really want to know? how much you believe is up to you

but remember Fyodor Dostoevsky sometimes people do things because they can even if it is against their own best interest
as for automobiles on our streets manufacturing plants, these will go the way of the dodo eventually I think, new tech will solve all those problems and create just as many more...gas will pass in a blink of an eye in human history.....can't last forever

never said anything about horseshit, where did you get that from?
instead of taking one of the choices you offered, i'll make my own pill... ;)

when i get a chance to talk to my friend if i remember, i will ask him how much business they do. it's -4 with a -30 something wind chill today so i am not walking (i don't own a vehicle. that's how you change the world, start with yourself...) 5 miles for anybody.
he is in mali doing some radar work for awhile so i can't say when that conversation will take place.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hansvonlieven on December 22, 2008, 11:03:58 PM
oh it's a problem? i'll just knife him in his sleep then ;)
honestly i am more concerned about the emissions of automobiles on our streets and from manufacturing plants than i am over this...

Perhaps this will show you whether there is a problem with this or not. The following is taken from their website:

...............................................................

 The weather modification technology transfer training program offered by WMI is found helpful when starting a new program or when upgrading an existing program(s). We are flexible and tailor the training to fit each programs specific objectives.

In designing our training, we consider specifically the number of trainees and their educations. Training is presented in both lecture and "hands-on" formats, to ensure maximum familiarity with equipment and procedures. All Instructors are qualified and thoroughly experienced.

The technology transfer training is usually conducted at or near WMI corporate facilities located at Hector International Airport, in Fargo, North Dakota, USA. Doing so allows optimum use of WMI facilities, aircraft, equipment, and personnel, thus maximizing cost-effectiveness. Special accommodations have been made and training conducted in remote locations. Instruction is generally provided in English. However, when necessary, qualified interpreters are retained to ensure complete comprehension of the material. Copies of all written training materials are provided in binder form.

..............................................

In other words, if you have the cash we will teach you how to fuck around with the weather and give you the facilities, for a fee!

Now, that might be very nice for the guy using it on his property, but what about his neighbours, or indeed, the rest of us. If you have thousands of companies using this kind of stuff how does that effect the planet. I thing the spread of this kind of technology is a little worse than emissions from automobiles or factories.

Another thing, how many of these types of companies are there?

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 22, 2008, 11:12:35 PM
Sorry for the horseshit comment, i just get frustrated and fired up

Good choice- learn and decide for yourself is the best way
-i found out about this stuff while i was researching Tesla ....err well i found haarp and then this
as for how many?
i dunno....
but it would make a hell of a weapon, completely deniable, god did it etc.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: wizardofmars on December 23, 2008, 03:44:43 AM
it would make a hell of a weapon, completely deniable...

Yeah, it's such an effective top-secret weapon the company has an extensive web page with all their details out there, where nobody would think to look.

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: wizardofmars on December 23, 2008, 03:55:34 AM
Before anything else we need a sample of whatever substance it is they are supposed to spray. It is the absence of such a sample that makes the whole story doubtful. These so-called chemtrail clouds don't look very high to me, even a small aircraft should be able to obtain a sample.

Keep reading Hans. Plenty of chemtrail conspiracy fans have collected samples of the dust/fibres/gels/liquids the mystery planes are spraying. One believer even chartered a plane to capture samples, although he wasn't successful.

It usually ends up the same as people who claim they have extraterrestrial samples. The MIB's get them or they mysteriously disappear before anyone can verify it. Or they do some bogus analysis and claim it's related to Morgellon's or some other crackpot cause.

What really killed the chemtrails conspiracy in the last few years IMHO is the ability of anyone to visit http://www.flightexplorer.com and figure out that the mysterious 'unmarked' planes are usually commercial jets and the like.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 23, 2008, 04:29:28 AM

What concerns/disturbs me is the arrogance displayed in denying its going on.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hansvonlieven on December 23, 2008, 05:21:35 AM
There does not seem to be much secrecy about this.

In Wikipedia, if you look under weather control it is openly talked about.

Quote:
Cloud seeding for rain

Cloud seeding is a common technique intended to trigger rain, but evidence on its effectiveness is mixed. Critics generally contend that claimed successes occur in conditions which were going to rain anyway. It is used in several different countries, including the United States, the People's Republic of China, and Russia. In the People's Republic of China there is a perceived dependency upon it in dry regions, which believe they are increasing annual rainfall by firing silver iodide rockets into the sky where rain is desired. In the United States, dry ice or silver iodide may be injected into a cloud by aircraft, or from the ground, in an attempt to increase rainfall; some companies are dedicated to this form of weather modification.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_control

This is really monstrous what is happening here and it appears to be on a very large scale.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 23, 2008, 12:49:39 PM

And this is but one aspect of their monstrosity.

Without a doubt we are in deep trouble.

Regards...


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: buzneg on December 26, 2008, 07:23:46 AM
A very big problem when talking about chemtrails is that jetplanes always leave a trail of vapour behind them. I remember seeing these all the time. Now I hear on the Alex Jones show people calling in and saying "I see chemtrails" But they don't describ them, and AJ, the percision cutting tool that he is, doesn't ask.

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on December 27, 2008, 01:08:11 AM
yeah but they don't stretch across the sky and spread out....normal contrails disappear after a while rarely becoming a cloud, maybe its something new in the fuel whatever it is it gives a kinda a reflective quality to the clouds. i have seen something weird as well recently, it looks kinda like a rainbow but it is just a small spot. it looks kind of like it might be a reflection off of the clouds on sunny days weird as that sounds, ill try to get a picture.

also on another note: would it possible to test the sunlight for intensity and spectrum changes? could you tell if it was water or something else this way?
  there have got to be other ways of testing for this, any ideas?
what about the refractive index of the air/clouds.... it be different than if it were just a contrail or normal clouds wouldn't it?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on December 27, 2008, 01:33:05 AM

I see the commercial jets go by...their 'vapor trails' dissipate rather quickly.

The 'chem-trails' just hang there...eventually turning a clear blue sky into a milky white haze.

Words spoken on what I have noticed since they began have fallen on deaf ears until recently.

Who knows what effects this stuff will have on our genealogy in the future...that is if we have one the way we're going.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TechStuf on December 27, 2008, 03:34:59 AM

I have posted many articles on the net about chem trails.  No less than a dozen times, my immediate area has been sprayed within minutes or hours of speaking out about them.  I have quite an archive detailing their harrassments.  Every single time we've been targeted (during daytime), it has been by large white C-130s or similar planes, unmarked but for the hypocritical display of a U.S. flag on the tail.  They've hit us with some low level runs and my mom almost died on one of them,  I was left coughing up bits of lung tissue for days, many in our small town were violently ill.  As of late, they are targeting much tighter with low level, late night runs using small planes.


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1794827/chemtrails_galore/


Anyone still unresponsive to the chemtrail threat in America by now.......has likely sold out due to cowardice.


Blessings in Christ,


TS
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TechStuf on December 27, 2008, 04:36:04 AM

The wizard of mars has oft demonstrated his unfailing ability to open a book.......Lord willing, he will yet open his eyes as well:


http://www.nogw.com/images/chemtrail_poster360usa.jpg


A simple google image search of the term: Chemtrail reveals that my asertions are backed with more than ample evidence.  While he and his sort always respond with juvenile character attacks time and again....as they have nothing of substance with which to counter the massive amounts of direct evidence.


Truth does not fear investigation......


Yahweh bless your heart W of M.



TS


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 06, 2009, 01:34:03 PM

It was easy to tell that they were just using the old 'Blue Screen' technology.

Shows you how desperate they are getting to keep people off internet news sources.

The vslimev just gets greener.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on April 25, 2010, 07:51:42 AM
Chemtrails have becoming now a very big issue !

I realized it myself when at the 17th and 18th of April no airplaine
was fyling due to the vulcano cloud have been exploded and no air traffic
was over whole Europe.

The sky was so clear and blue I really can´t say, how great this was and you
really had a very nice sunshine during these days...

Now as the airtraffic has again started and the spraying continues the sky over
my area is again milky and stripped with chemtrails and also the air is not so fresh anymore...

We really have to stop this !

I uploaded now many videos to my
youtube account which show the undeniable proof, what is going on:

http://www.youtube.com/user/overunitydotcom#g/u

Compare this please to my own video of the 18th April 2010,
when there was no air traffic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq4-dGozMsU

I really miss these 2 days with no chemtrails and we really need to do something
politically to stop this as soon as possible.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on April 25, 2010, 01:36:28 PM
Yeah, I sure know what you mean.  I just did a Yahoo search for them & there are OVER 8 MILLION SITES warning people.


http://www.rense.com

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=Ahh4zc49QOq.R2r.AoQAYuabvZx4?p=chemtrails&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu7SYKNRL68kA9gZXNyoA?p=chemtrails+morgellons&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701&sao=1
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on April 25, 2010, 08:41:28 PM
Please post only technical answers to this thread.

I am deleting all the messages that makes fun of this topic
and tries to make it look delusional !

This is a serious threat to our health and we have to fight to stop it worldwide !

Thanks for your understanding.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on April 25, 2010, 10:53:35 PM

Thank you for taking up the cause Stefan...this has been a major concern of mine for many years.

I was around before jets, and well recall their quickly dispersing 'vapor' trails...under any and ALL weather conditions.

So, when the chemtrails began, I noticed the change immediately.

Nobody seemed alarmed, and of course they disregard the facts and live on.

But now not so coincidentally, we have an epidemic of respiratory illnesses, COPD and athsma chief among them, and most are not able to put the chemical cause above their heads together with the effect in their lungs.


You may have noticed that when I delete nonconstructive and distracting posts, I am accused of being some type of power mad dictator.

Not by any respected members I might add.

It will be interesting to see what reaction, if any, that you get.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on April 26, 2010, 02:52:17 PM
Excellent Points Stefan.

I think this photo says it all.  Chemtrails in conjunction with Fluoride not only does a SLOW KILL, but it also makes people DOCILE.


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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: jikwan on April 26, 2010, 08:56:26 PM
fairly small scale chem delivery
but with 1000's of flights per day........

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=266359

written a few years ago
no reason for it to be any different today

i
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cloxxki on April 27, 2010, 12:08:24 AM
After the days of no air traffic, when the view from my work place was just stunning, we're back to general fogginess. 10 miles of foggy view in stead of 20 miles of crystal clear detail.

I can't believe a bit of kerosine can make that difference. Yet, no all days are full of chemtrails.

How big an operation must it be, to set up chemtrail devices on so many flights, some commercial? Or to sneak the chems into kerosine even. If people talk about buildings on the moon, surely they can talk about how to spot and arrest chemtrail flight, before and after operation?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: DeepCut on April 27, 2010, 01:49:13 AM
A very big problem when talking about chemtrails is that jetplanes always leave a trail of vapour behind them. I remember seeing these all the time. Now I hear on the Alex Jones show people calling in and saying "I see chemtrails" But they don't describ them, and AJ, the percision cutting tool that he is, doesn't ask.

i think most people know that chemtrails hang around a long time, whereas contrails don't.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on April 27, 2010, 02:52:07 AM
Hi,
I wonder, when reading the following,
if the pilots don´t really know, what is going on ?

Can´t pilots look back behind their plane and see the huge exhaust ?

Does somebody have contacts to some commercial airkine pilots and can ask
them what they think about this ?
Many thanks.

From: http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails/Witness_1.html


For reasons you will understand as you read this I can not divulge my identity. I am an aircraft mechanic for a major airline.

I work at one of our maintenance bases located at a large airport. I have discovered some information that I think you will find important.

First I should tell you something about the "pecking order" among mechanics. It is important to my story and to the cause to which you have dedicated yourself.

Mechanics want to work on three things. The avionics, the engines, or the flight controls.

The mechanics that work on these systems are considered at the top of the "pecking order".

Next come the mechanics that work on the hydraulics and air conditioning systems. Then come the ones who work on the galley and other non-essential systems. But at the very bottom of the list are the mechanics that work on the waste disposal systems. No mechanic wants to work on the pumps, tanks, and pipes that are used to store the waste from the lavatories.

But at every airport where I have worked there are always 2 or 3 mechanics that volunteer to work on the lavatory systems. The other mechanics are happy to let them do it. Because of this you will have only 2 or 3 mechanics that work on these systems at any one airport. No one pays much attention to these guys and no mechanic socializes with another mechanic who only works on the waste systems. In fact I had never thought much about this situation until last month.

Like most airlines we have reciprocal agreements with the other airlines that fly into this airport. If they have a problem with a plane one of our mechanics will take care of it. Likewise if one of our planes has a problem at an airport where the other airline has a maintenance base, they will fix our plane.

One day last month I was called out from our base to work on a plane for another airline. When I got the call the dispatcher did not know what the problem was. When I got to the plane I found out that the problem was in waste disposal system. There was nothing for me to do but to crawl in and fix the problem. When I got into the bay I realized that something was not right. There were more tanks, pumps, and pipes then should have been there. At first I assumed that the system had been changed. It had been 10 years since I had worked on one. As I tried to find the problem I quickly realized the extra piping and tanks were not connected to the waste disposal system. I had just discovered this when another mechanic from my company showed up. It was one of the mechanics who usually works on these systems. I happily turned the job over to him. As I was leaving I asked him about the extra equipment. He told me to "worry about my end of the plane and let him worry about his!"

The next day I was on the company computer to look up a wiring schematic. While I was there I decided to look up the extra equipment I had found. To my amazement the manuals did not show any of the extra equipment I had seen with my own eyes the day before. I even tied in to the manufacturer files and still found nothing. Now I was really determined to find out what that equipment did.

The next week we had three of our planes in our main hanger for periodic inspection. There are mechanics crawling all over a plane during these inspections. I had just finished my shift and I decided to have a look at the waste system on one of our planes. With all the mechanics around I figured that no one would notice an extra one on the plane. Sure enough, the plane I choose had the extra equipment!

I began to trace the system of pipes, pumps, and tanks. I found what appeared to be the control unit for the system. It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind. I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.

The system had 1 large and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment but it looked like the large tank could hold 50 gallons. The tanks were connected to a fill and drain valve that passed through the fuselage just behind the drain valve for the waste system. When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain.

I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers. If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wires, about the size of your finger, extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces. These are the static discharge wicks. They are used to dissipate the static electric charge that builds up on a plane in flight. I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through these fake wicks.

It was while I was on the wing that one of the managers spotted me. He ordered me out of the hanger telling me that my shift was over and I had not been authorized any overtime.

The next couple of days were very busy and I had no time to continue my investigation. Late one afternoon, two days after my discovery, I was called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperwork.

About 30 minutes later I was paged to see the General Manager. When I went in his office I found that our union rep and two others who I did not know were waiting on me. He told me that a serious problem had been discovered. He said that I was being written up and suspended for turning in false paperwork. He handed me a disciplinary form stating that I had turned in false paperwork on the engine temperature sensor I had installed a few hours before. I was floored and began to protest. I told them that this was ridiculous and that I had done this work. The union rep spoke up then and recommended that we take a look at the plane and see if we could straighten it all out. It was at this time that I asked who the other two men were. The GM told me that they were airline safety inspectors but would not give me their names.

We proceeded to the plane, which should have been in the air but was parked on our maintenance ramp. We opened the engine cowling and the union rep pulled the sensor. He checked the serial number and told everyone that it was the old instrument. We then went to the parts bay and went back into the racks. The union rep checked my report and pulled from the rack a sealed box. He opened the box and pulled out the engine temperature sensor with the serial number of the one I had installed. I was told that I was suspended for a week without pay and to leave immediately.

I sat at home the first day of my suspension wondering what the hell had happened to me. That evening I received a phone call. The voice told me "Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no concern of yours you will lose your job. As it is I'm feeling generous, I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon" CLICK. Again I had to pick myself from off the floor. I made the connection that what had happened was directly connected to my tracing the mysterious piping. The next morning the General Manager called me. He said that due to my past excellent employment record that the suspension had been reduced to one day and that I should report back to work immediately. The only thing I could think of was what are they trying to hide and who are THEY!

That day at work went by as if nothing had happened. None of the other mechanics mentioned the suspension and my union rep told me not to talk about it. That night I logged onto the Internet to try to find some answers. I don't remember now how I got there but I came across your site. That's when it all came together. But the next morning at work I found a note inside my locked locker. It said, "Curiosity killed the cat. Don't be looking at Internet sites that are no concern of yours."

Well that's it. THEY are watching me.

Well you already know what they are doing. I don't know what they are spraying but I can tell you how they are doing it. I figure they are using the "honey trucks". These are the trucks that empty the waste from the lavatory waste tanks. The airports usually contract out this job and nobody goes near these trucks. Who wants to stand next a truck full of sh--. While these guys are emptying the waste tanks they are filling the tanks of the spray system. They know the planes flight path so they probably program the control unit to start spraying some amount of time after the plane reaches a certain altitude. The spray nozzles in the fake static wicks are so small that no one in the plane would see a thing.

God help us all,
A concerned citizen.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: jikwan on April 27, 2010, 10:16:42 AM
Think it isn't/can't/wont happen here? THINK AGAIN*.*  "They" don't feel it's our business to know
         The  UK Ministry of Defence admits experimenting on public - 1940-1979 ..who knows about since then? Now?
         Â©  Antony Barnett, public affairs editor
          Observer.co.uk
     

    Sunday April 21, 2002

    The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.

    A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.

    Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told.

    While details of some secret trials have emerged in recent years, the 60-page report reveals new information about more than 100 covert experiments.

    The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.

    The tests, carried out by government scientists at Porton Down, were designed to help the MoD assess Britain's vulnerability if the Russians were to have released clouds of deadly germs over the country.

    In most cases, the trials did not use biological weapons but alternatives which scientists believed would mimic germ warfare and which the MoD claimed were harmless. But families in certain areas of the country who have children with birth defects are demanding a public inquiry. (Of course they were ignored, like we all are now when we ask what the hell is being sprayed up in the skies over our heads that's making us all sick ..~R~)

    *One chapter of the report, 'The Fluorescent Particle Trials', reveals how between 1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

    While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

    In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

    The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. *These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.

    Similar bacteria were released in 'The Sabotage Trials' between 1952 and 1964. These were tests to determine the vulnerability of large government buildings and public transport to attack. In 1956 bacteria were released on the London Underground at lunchtime along the Northern Line between Colliers Wood and Tooting Broadway. The results show that the organism dispersed about 10 miles. Similar tests were conducted in tunnels running under government buildings in Whitehall.

    Experiments conducted between 1964 and 1973 involved attaching germs to the threads of spiders' webs in boxes to test how the germs would survive in different environments. These tests were carried out in a dozen locations across the country, including London's West End, Southampton and Swindon. The report also gives details of more than a dozen smaller field trials between 1968 and 1977.

    In recent years, the MoD has commissioned two scientists to review the safety of these tests. Both reported that there was no risk to public health, although one suggested the elderly or people suffering from breathing illnesses may have been seriously harmed if they inhaled sufficient quantities of micro-organisms.

    However, some families in areas which bore the brunt of the secret tests are convinced the experiments have led to their children suffering birth defects, physical handicaps and learning difficulties.

    David Orman, an army officer from Bournemouth, is demanding a public inquiry. His wife, Janette, was born in East Lulworth in Dorset, close to where many of the trials took place. She had a miscarriage, then gave birth to a son with cerebral palsy. Janette's three sisters, also born in the village while the tests were being carried out, have also given birth to children with unexplained problems, as have a number of their neighbours.

    The local health authority has denied there is a cluster, but Orman believes otherwise. He said: 'I am convinced something terrible has happened. The village was a close-knit community and to have so many birth defects over such a short space of time has to be more than coincidence.'

    Successive governments have tried to keep details of the germ warfare tests secret. While reports of a number of the trials have emerged over the years through the Public Records Office, this latest MoD document - which was released to Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker - gives the fullest official version of the biological warfare trials yet.

    Baker said: 'I welcome the fact that the Government has finally released this information, but question why it has taken so long. It is unacceptable that the public were treated as guinea pigs without their knowledge, and I want to be sure that the Ministry of Defence's claims that these chemicals and bacteria used were safe is true.'

    The MoD report traces the history of the UK's research into germ warfare since the Second World War when Porton Down produced five million cattle cakes filled with deadly anthrax spores which would have been dropped in Germany to kill their livestock. It also gives details of the infamous anthrax experiments on Gruinard on the Scottish coast which left the island so contaminated it could not be inhabited until the late 1980s. (Wait..I thought the terrorists had anthrax they could drop on us any second and we're supposed to be terrified of them? ~R~)

    The report also confirms the use of anthrax and other deadly germs on tests aboard ships in the Caribbean and off the Scottish coast during the 1950s. The document states: 'Tacit approval for simulant trials where the public might be exposed was strongly influenced by defence security considerations aimed obviously at restricting public knowledge. An important corollary to this was the need to avoid public alarm and disquiet about the vulnerability of the civil population to BW [biological warfare] attack.'

    Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

    'The results from these trials will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

    Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.'

antony.barnett@observer.co.uk

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4398507,00.html
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: jikwan on April 27, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
Aircraft Mechanics Forum.

http://www.aircraftmechanic.org/

tried a search --chemtrails--
had to be a member for access

heres my idea............
one of us needs to pose as a mechanic and
post a complaint about suspicious exhausts
and wait for the response

id do it myself but i fear id not be very convincing enough

one of us could do it
have to use the right jargon
sound as though youve been a mech for decades
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: jikwan on April 27, 2010, 10:49:50 AM
Other Forums For Aircraft Mechanics? 

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/146487/
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on April 27, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
Aircraft Mechanics Forum.

http://www.aircraftmechanic.org/

tried a search --chemtrails--


My search was successfull,
there was only one thread mixed with UFOs and Chemtrails,
and the best answer was at:

http://www.aircraftmechanic.org/showthread.php?t=1455&highlight=chemtrails&page=2


Quote
From: icrman
Junior member

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2BravoDelta View Post
I spent waaaay too much time taking pics of "chemtrails" in 2007.
straight lines of 20 jet trails in 20 minutes, (which expanded to form a total cloud cover), checkerboard grid patterns that took hours to complete......(then the very next day not a plane to be seen anydamwhere)
I photographed jets flying equidistant to each other, and while emitting no visible plume from the engine exhaust, "spurted" out in 5 second bursts, a "clear" plume, that minutes after the plane flew out of sight, materialized (in proportionate lengths) into trails, then spread out into "clouds".
I have pics of circles, fig-8's, "S" shapes, and damn near everything else you can imagine. I've seen DC9 sized aircraft make S's, and damn near turn on end when they did it, and apparently for no apparent reason.
I have photos of "corkscrew" shaped chemtrails, and I dont mean "kinda like" a corkscrew, I mean EXACTLY like a corkscrew. Curled trails coming out of a jet. Maybe 10 or so seconds in length.
I have time lapse video of a few chemtrails spreading out to maybe a hundred times the original size, and then fall earthward in a type of "foggy mess".
I've seen "black" lines materialize out of nowhere in the sky, and then photographed jets fly exactly over them, sometimes leaving solid trails, sometimes segmented ones.
I've witnesed two trails being made (immediately and CLOSE TO on top of one another, while only able to see one plane.
That one was so weird looking, that the client I was with stopped dead in his tracks and said "what the HELL is that?"
I didnt say a word. (I wanted the job) I just shrugged it off.

Oh, and some other things I photographed during the past year.
Lights or orbs, in the daytime, that appeared to follow jets in the sky. Some just came out of nowhere, say ten times or more the speed of the jet I was photographing, ad then it would just hover in place for a few secinds before zooming off at an equally ridiculous speed.

somebody, somewhere on a site like this, HAS to know something.

Its why I came here, although the more I researched the possibilities, the less I expect anyone to say anything.................

If I'm nuts then my dammed digital camera is nuts.
I have better pictures than ANY of the conspiracy sites, even this one.........
(and this is a good one)

http://bariumblues.com/
thanks for your time.

My guess on the reason for this, is. Since there is constant propaganda about global warming and climate change. I feel they are darn sure gona make sure something happens so they are doing it cloud engineering to affect warming and climate changes. You know something is up when all the enviro nut case media types are mum on the subject of aircraft contrails/ smog trails/ chemtrails. I have seen the same as what you describe, and its been going on for many years now. It is obvious it is an engineered deal, as a kid in the late 50's and through the 60's those contrails never did what they do now. And besides I can now look up and tell, that on some days every cloud in the sky is man made. So how come its only a very few that can see these
"signs in the heavens"? Yeah a bible qoute sorry.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: jikwan on April 27, 2010, 10:57:40 AM
bit more relevant info here

http://www.rense.com/general/stumble.htm
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cherryman on April 27, 2010, 12:06:18 PM
I did see a strange thing last sunday ( In GLD, Netherlands)

Two planes, with two color trails, a white one and a dark one.

Maybe the light?  I don't know....

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cherryman on April 27, 2010, 12:08:35 PM
A few seconds later, they crossed paths

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cherryman on April 27, 2010, 12:11:34 PM
And the last one... 

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: jikwan on April 27, 2010, 07:50:30 PM
Cman,
good photos but im speechless
what the hell?

the sprayers have no resistance force
they can do what they like

looks like theyre making a statement........

"see, you stupid assholes......we can do whatever we like and you cant do a thing about it"
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: 4Tesla on April 27, 2010, 08:53:56 PM
have a look at this patent...

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat3899144.pdf (http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat3899144.pdf)

Still doubt?

The patent is missing ???

Edit: It is back.. I had to retype the patent number.. must expire after a set amount of time.

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat3899144.pdf
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: jikwan on April 27, 2010, 08:54:10 PM
lets say theres 8000 domestic and international aircraft servicing the skies
(im guessing...could be a lot more)

2000 unmarked millitary planes

each requires pilot and 1 co pilot    =20000 people

these guys are not blind. they know types of vapours
they have rear view mirrors

i dare say there should be always a standby pilot for every flight    =10000 people

thats 30 000 people who know something

at least 2 people delivering and filling a "special tank with a certain kind
of extraordinaryfluid"

these 2 people become 6 because of a 24hr shiftwork

these 6 operate in, lets say, 500 airports worldwide   =3000 delivery
drivers/pumpers

thats 33 000 so far

people who know very well what the fluid is and are
responsable for making sure it gets in there and all goes well

1 for each airport 24hr shift system     =1500 people

thats 34 500 so far

every single thing is checked in flying

at least 1 keep-your-mouth-shut-mechanic for every flight    =10000

44,500 people who definitely/probably know theres something
very wrong. that people are being harmed big-time

delivery drivers of chemicals to airport dont count
they dont know what theyre delivering and dont care

same with manufacturing the chemical
all the workers just put this, that and a little bit of something else in
and thats their work. its a good salary.

these are numbers off the top of my head
i dont think im much wrong

about 45,000 people in this world know. they have direct knowledge

there just has to be out of that number, a small handful of people
with conscience---that would testify

then we could nail them in the courts/newspapers

i have a solution, a very alternative/extraordinary one for
locating these people with conscience

i fear that stephan has an active finger for the delete button
id like my suggestion to have a good airing before he hits delete

this is no joke and my ive no intention of making a mockery of this
subject
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: 4Tesla on April 27, 2010, 09:03:18 PM
Could these not be for weather, but for population control?  Either by shortening lives or by making people sterile.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cherryman on April 27, 2010, 09:04:10 PM
Well speculating is easy, i give you one for just one person: 

just mix the chemcial additive in the jetfuel

Now you can narrow the people involved down to one!!!!

Tecnically just one person is needed between raffinary plant and plane to add somewhere an addittion to the fuel.

Voila!.

"The best place to hide something is right under youre nose!" 

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: jikwan on April 27, 2010, 09:17:02 PM
Cman,
i take my hat off to you
never thought of that one

i was caught in the polish mechanics saying that
there was a separate tank

mixing it makes perfect sense

its your thought--but is it the reality?

you know that if you put a certain amount of
non combustable chemicals in your cars gas tank

the engines not going to like it very much
we should expect some trouble somewhere for that violation
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cherryman on April 27, 2010, 10:27:07 PM
Cman,
i take my hat off to you
never thought of that one

i was caught in the polish mechanics saying that
there was a separate tank

mixing it makes perfect sense

its your thought--but is it the reality?

you know that if you put a certain amount of
non combustable chemicals in your cars gas tank

the engines not going to like it very much
we should expect some trouble somewhere for that violation

It's just a theorie.

As for the engines, It al depends on the chemicals.  Alu floks will have problems with the fuelfilter. So anything added must be very fine particle or chem/biocal. 

Both, (small particlas and/or chemicals/biocals) can be designed not to harm the engine.


But i'm not convinced (yet) of a mass "poisening" operation!

I do am worried however about wheater modification programs!  Nobody asked my permision, and it is MY weather too!! 

Short time effects ?
Long time effects?
Effects of materials used on human/animal/plant life/water quality...  etc  etc!

If they think it should be done they should have democratic permission from an OPEN debate with all mankind. 
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on April 27, 2010, 11:46:20 PM
Each year the spraying gets worse.  It is rare to see a blue sky nowadays.

Here CHEMTRAILS are RIGHT ON TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNDMJCTFslw

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on April 28, 2010, 02:51:52 AM
In this video from the German ZDF TV channel ( second biggest local channel)
it is admitted, that they use today just sulphur
mixed into the airfuel and use this for weather modification to
reduce the sunlight onto the earth and reflect it back to space.

But sulfurdioxid that is generated during the burning of the fuel is very
dangereous to the environment and the human health,
as it forms acid rain, etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpEcHya7Jk

Also there are now many proofs, that there is a hidden secret plan to do this
weather modification.

That it harms the whole population and also themself, these governement folks probably don´t care about
or are too stupid to realize...

They just want to fight global warming with it...if there is at all any global warming at all
and it is not just made up for cashing in...
Probably the companies that produce the sulphur for the jet fuel also cash in a lot....
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on April 28, 2010, 03:02:32 AM
Are they now also dropping some kind of
parasite worms from the planes ?

Watch this video about MORGELLONS  parasite worms:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zItBBLQoaT8

Very scary !
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on April 28, 2010, 07:41:51 AM
Don't rule out the use of nano quartz, it's highly reflective too. Partial cancer cells and new reports that link Oswald and Ruby to a project that weaponized cancer. Lab reports have turned up all types of things. It seems different chemical mixes have different results and they use many. Aerosols and polymers are the base that spread the mixes they choose. Aluminum seems to be in every mixture. Aluminum is a toxic metal, reason enough to stop chemtrails alone. We have powerful downdrafts around the lake shores. I have a picture of me standing in a chemcloud on the ground. I'm am still sick from it a little. I had the presences of mind to pull the lid off the plastic bin in the back of the truck and dump it out and collect a sample. It's still being looked at. I have a picture of the chemcloud blowing around the parking lot I was in. When admin gets over the shock of the number of pictures being posted I'll pop it up for you. I'll size it down to 600 pixels across the top for them. Less than that you can't see enough detail to make it worth posting.

Aluminum spread in the manner they are spreading it, in 3 layers means it could be used as a spherical  wave guide. I suggest we have people in here that can mull that over. It can form a capacitance that can ionize a path. for each layer. Come on you guys that work with wave guides, speak up. I have one other thing for you to think about, how does a solar panel work and then apply that to 2 layers of aluminum clouds stretched out over the Earth like plates.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on April 28, 2010, 02:20:10 PM
raburgeson,  Please post your picture of that Chem Cloud in the parking lot.  That really sounds interesting.

Thanks.
.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on April 28, 2010, 09:51:56 PM
Here are some EXTREMELY RARE Chemtrail PHOTOS taken out of a PASSENGER PLANE WINDOW at 30,000 feet.

http://www.rense.com/general80/closeup.htm

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: pese on April 29, 2010, 10:15:52 PM
-29.4.2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViH8mLtFrX8&feature=channel 
barium salt in chemtrails  LABORTEST  TV/USA 3 Min.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTcEn3baJW0&feature=related  BBC /England Lügen Lies /Chemtrails
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Cxz66KpMw&feature=related 
upcoming trails, REVERS video up tho the blue sky in the morning

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The first  Chemtrails after Volcano again over europe
Blue sky Adieu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a-KdcgE2Sk&feature=related

Weitere Quellen:
http://alt-nrg.de/pppp/EM5_Gesundheit.html

Pese
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on May 01, 2010, 12:51:22 AM
Good videos Pese.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on May 04, 2010, 05:43:04 PM
http://pyrodin.wordpress.com

A powerful laser can be shot into humid air to cause intense water condensation, scientists have discovered. The technology has the potential to replace cloud seeding widely used today.

 When a short laser pulse is shot into the air, it forms a path of ionised nitrogen and oxygen. Some military researchers want to use this “plasma channel” to conduct electricity in futuristic direct energy weapons, but there appears to be a peaceful application.

The ionized molecules act as natural nuclei for water condensation and can potentially be used to cause rain. Optical physicist Jérôme Kasparian at the University of Geneva, Switzerland, and colleagues stumbled on it as they investigated the possibility of diverting lightning discharges via laser.

The “cloud seeding” method used today involves silver iodide or frozen carbon dioxide, which stimulate droplet formation in clouds. The chemicals are released by ground generators or dropped from planes wherever needed. The approach, which has been used for some 50 years now, is only moderately efficient and there are some environmental concerns over it.

So far Kasparian and the team have successfully tested the laser-induced condensation technology both in lab and in the field. They measured the number of new droplets by counting back-scatterings from a second low-energy pulse from another laser. In humid weather, they measured 20 times more of those after firing the first beam, they report online in Nature Photonics.

The technology, however, is in the early stages, and the scientists are yet to prove that it can effectively cause condensation over wide areas rather than along a narrow channel. They also need to investigate if it works in different environmental conditions

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on May 05, 2010, 09:32:55 PM
"stumbled on it as they investigated the possibility of diverting lightning".....been thinking about that, why do that? Do we have the tech to handle that much static power? Guess it might make a cool weapon though, maybe flying a disposable drone below the cloud line and shooting the laser down from it to the earth making it like big lightning rod...

one problem I see is the powersupply and laser would be too heavy for the drone to carry......ehh Idk maybe use some sort of one time power source or use the buildup of the lightning itself to power the laser.

That and you'd have to wait for a storm, lol..

but still, can you imagine "How dare you defy me" and BOOM, talk about striking the fear of god in your enemies hearts....not to mention you could blame it on him too...not practical but kinda james bond cool.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TechStuf on May 06, 2010, 12:34:12 AM

The Bible reveals that in the last days of this old world, the "beast" would be able to call down fire (ie. lightning) from heaven, which involves weather control.  God's Word also reveals that the "beast" would have dominion over the air, even traveling into space.

'And the whole world will be in wonder after the "beast", saying who is able to wage war with him'?....


The Holy Spirit of God, Christ Yeshua, and His Angels....that's Who.


Blessings in Christ Yeshua

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: helicoil on May 10, 2010, 11:13:02 AM
Rarely seen these chem-trails were i live in oz, except 1 time i had seen an unusual cloud near the airport coming up at about 45 degrees then sharply leveling out, stayed for hours.
 News show stated it was caused by an unusual cold air snap around the airport causing the contrail to last hours.
 started noticing these on tv shows, e.g. bear grylls surviving the boggy marshes of Scotland, and just this weekend saw a music video clip with the best example on the chem-trails and contrails, its in fast motion and clearly shows the difference between them.
 heres a youtube link, 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=monyiOsoKxg

vid is by JARVIS COCKER - running the world, brilliant lyrics, "C#*ts are running the world"
 a little difficult to see the contrails flying past, easier to see on tv, at 1:40 you can see a contrail flying through the w of the last word on screen, which stays a short distance from the jet.
 Enjoy   
 
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cherryman on May 16, 2010, 09:20:29 PM
I came across this : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8309629.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8309629.stm)

It's not sais it's chemtrail but i does claims that contrails are creating clouds.  Actually that is when you think of it already disturbing enough!

But what does strikes me is the scale on these satelite images, when you look to the right you see a spiraled contrail.    The island you see is the United Kingdom...   That must have been a heck of a large spirling plane!

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on May 16, 2010, 09:34:33 PM
Weatherman admits to Chemtrails right on TV.


http://www.noonehastodietomorrow.com/agenda/A-modification/2259

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Rapadura on May 17, 2010, 06:01:29 PM
My theory:

Chemtrails are a conspiracy of BIG OIL.

Big oil corporations and its agents inside governments are using chemtrails to reduce the amount of sunlight reaching Earth's surface.

It's a sinister conspiracy to demoralize all the scientists that warn about global warming: with less sunlight reaching the surface of the planet, the global warming is slowed down, even with the crescent amount of CO² at atmosphere.

Then, big oil is funding the "global warming skeptics" (and "hackers"), to make the "dirty work" of public demoralization.

The goal is keep drilling oil, and selling it, in a world where "Peak Oil" is making this commodity more expensive each day, wich means astronomical profits for big oil corporations.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on May 18, 2010, 01:55:38 AM
LINK between Chemtrails & Morgellons Disease:


http://www.morgellonsexposed.com/Links.htm


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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raptor731 on May 25, 2010, 04:37:49 AM
Ahem...I'm disappointed that thinking people would swallow these theories. Please take the time to read http://www.areco.org/minnis.pdf. The author clearly states that contrails may exist for hours, and there are many variables determining the length of time they remain in the sky.

Not to say I trust my goverment (as far as I can throw them!  ;D)...but if they're secretly poisoning us, this isn't it.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on May 25, 2010, 04:48:10 PM
Raptor731, if you do some research you'll find that it is admitted that they are spraying to modify the weather, there are even patents for Titainium dioxide(the main ingredient in sunscreen) sprayers from there its not much of a stretch to "poison" but I doubt you will find direct public proof of that.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on May 25, 2010, 10:21:14 PM
@ raptor731

Ahem...I'm disappointed that thinking people would swallow these theories.  The author clearly states that contrails may exist for hours, and there are many variables determining the length of time they remain in the sky.

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It is sure OBVIOUS that you have been drinking your Fluoride!!!

It sounds like your brain is fried!!   LOL.

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TechStuf on May 25, 2010, 11:26:23 PM

Spray...spray...spray.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gWvBXS2t4A

lol

wonder potion.

Indeed.


Someone should to a CT parody of that song.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on May 26, 2010, 12:25:18 AM
This VIDEO should remove all doubt:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te_FOsKL_5Q

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raptor731 on May 26, 2010, 05:07:29 AM

It is sure OBVIOUS that you have been drinking your Fluoride!!!

It sounds like your brain is fried!!   LOL.

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Very funny. Actually, I live in the country, with delicious wellwater, and eat organically whenever I can. It's you citydwellers that drink your daily fluoride XD. If you want to believe in chemtrails, it is your right...but its a belief.

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TechStuf on May 26, 2010, 05:23:18 AM
Quote
If you want to believe in chemtrails, it is your right...but its a belief.

Raptor seems to demonstrate that he overestimates himself and underestimates others a matter of daily habit.  Perhaps it's a vestige of 'higher learning'.

The science regarding Chemtrails is quite well established and maintained by plethoric evidentiary support.  Raptor advertises his various ignorances on this matter as though they are letters on a new jacket.

Quote
I live in the country, with delicious wellwater, and eat organically whenever I can.

Correction, raptor BELIEVES he lives in the 'country', BELIEVES he drinks delicious 'wellwater' and "believes" he eats organically when he can.

See, we can do it too....As your evidence is just not up to snuff.

"Learning without wisdom is like a load of books on the back of a donkey". - Japanese proverb



TS
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raptor731 on May 26, 2010, 07:58:27 AM
Raptor seems to demonstrate that he overestimates himself and underestimates others a matter of daily habit

I apologize for coming across that way, it certainly is not my intent to make others feel underestimated. I am only looking for truth...
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Paul-R on May 26, 2010, 04:09:59 PM
You know I have been skeptical about chemtrails.

But I see these clouds that just could not be formed naturally.

They a long, linear clouds that seem to hang in space forever.

Some even cross making a giant X in the sky.

I am hypothesizing, but if a plane were to leave a trail of a fine powder that is falling the particles would disperse and make the "contrail" expand as it falls toward the ground.  The trail would get wider and less dense as it falls.  This would create these funny clouds that I have been seeing.

One day in the sky above Dallas we had parallel striped clouds, chek out this picture...
these are called lenticular clouds; well known to glider pilots.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on May 26, 2010, 05:01:55 PM
Well, I doubt every contrail is a "chemtrail" but also does not disprove that some are not normal contrails. I believe that one or more planes dispersing a condensing conpound and the regular contrails become longer lasting and form large wispy clouds. And it is admitted that people modify the weather this way, I do not know about it causing any damage but, you could say the same about a lot of possibly dangerous things. People sure have a hard time breaking away from whatever they have been told to think and actually thinking, that goes for both sides of the chemtrail controversy.

"Very funny. Actually, I live in the country, with delicious wellwater, and eat organically whenever I can. It's you citydwellers that drink your daily fluoride XD. If you want to believe in chemtrails, it is your right...but its a belief."

Raptor I'm not going to attack you for not buying the whole "Chemtrail Conspiracy", I don't, but I do think there is something going on for there to even be controversy. I also try to eat organic and drink flouride free water if i can get it, I don't "believe" in Chemtrails, I just think its logical for humans to try and control the weather.

Peace
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TechStuf on May 26, 2010, 11:42:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aefwzqjDQ8s

Chemtrails are not just about weather control, but population control as well.  Of that, there can be no HONEST doubt.  At least not to the honest student of history, with eyes and ears.  The military beasts of history have always operated this way.  One only has to cast their eyes upon the pages of military history of many nations to see the atrocities they have visited upon their own peoples as sacrifices to their false gods of war.

If one bothers to check medical statistics for the last decade, one will see a veritable explosion in deadly diseases with artificial causes, which the  media rarely touches upon.  You see, they want the population reduced, but not so quickly, generally speaking, as to deny their buddies in the medical establishment a plunderer's profit on those they have condemned to a slow, painful, and expensive demise.

http://www.whale.to/cancer/valentine.html


And they shall reap as they have sowed.


TS


Blessings in Yeshua,


TS
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on May 28, 2010, 03:46:58 PM
CHECK THIS OUT!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

Sunday 21 April 2002 10.23 BST

The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.
A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.

Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told.

While details of some secret trials have emerged in recent years, the 60-page report reveals new information about more than 100 covert experiments.

The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.

The tests, carried out by government scientists at Porton Down, were designed to help the MoD assess Britain's vulnerability if the Russians were to have released clouds of deadly germs over the country.

In most cases, the trials did not use biological weapons but alternatives which scientists believed would mimic germ warfare and which the MoD claimed were harmless. But families in certain areas of the country who have children with birth defects are demanding a public inquiry.

One chapter of the report, 'The Fluorescent Particle Trials', reveals how between 1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.

Similar bacteria were released in 'The Sabotage Trials' between 1952 and 1964. These were tests to determine the vulnerability of large government buildings and public transport to attack. In 1956 bacteria were released on the London Underground at lunchtime along the Northern Line between Colliers Wood and Tooting Broadway. The results show that the organism dispersed about 10 miles. Similar tests were conducted in tunnels running under government buildings in Whitehall.

Experiments conducted between 1964 and 1973 involved attaching germs to the threads of spiders' webs in boxes to test how the germs would survive in different environments. These tests were carried out in a dozen locations across the country, including London's West End, Southampton and Swindon. The report also gives details of more than a dozen smaller field trials between 1968 and 1977.

In recent years, the MoD has commissioned two scientists to review the safety of these tests. Both reported that there was no risk to public health, although one suggested the elderly or people suffering from breathing illnesses may have been seriously harmed if they inhaled sufficient quantities of micro-organisms.

However, some families in areas which bore the brunt of the secret tests are convinced the experiments have led to their children suffering birth defects, physical handicaps and learning difficulties.

David Orman, an army officer from Bournemouth, is demanding a public inquiry. His wife, Janette, was born in East Lulworth in Dorset, close to where many of the trials took place. She had a miscarriage, then gave birth to a son with cerebral palsy. Janette's three sisters, also born in the village while the tests were being carried out, have also given birth to children with unexplained problems, as have a number of their neighbours.

The local health authority has denied there is a cluster, but Orman believes otherwise. He said: 'I am convinced something terrible has happened. The village was a close-knit community and to have so many birth defects over such a short space of time has to be more than coincidence.'

Successive governments have tried to keep details of the germ warfare tests secret. While reports of a number of the trials have emerged over the years through the Public Records Office, this latest MoD document - which was released to Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker - gives the fullest official version of the biological warfare trials yet.

Baker said: 'I welcome the fact that the Government has finally released this information, but question why it has taken so long. It is unacceptable that the public were treated as guinea pigs without their knowledge, and I want to be sure that the Ministry of Defence's claims that these chemicals and bacteria used were safe is true.'

The MoD report traces the history of the UK's research into germ warfare since the Second World War when Porton Down produced five million cattle cakes filled with deadly anthrax spores which would have been dropped in Germany to kill their livestock. It also gives details of the infamous anthrax experiments on Gruinard on the Scottish coast which left the island so contaminated it could not be inhabited until the late 1980s.

The report also confirms the use of anthrax and other deadly germs on tests aboard ships in the Caribbean and off the Scottish coast during the 1950s. The document states: 'Tacit approval for simulant trials where the public might be exposed was strongly influenced by defence security considerations aimed obviously at restricting public knowledge. An important corollary to this was the need to avoid public alarm and disquiet about the vulnerability of the civil population to BW [biological warfare] attack.'

Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.'
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cherryman on June 02, 2010, 08:34:14 PM
My chinees ain't that good...

But this looks like either a burning arplaine or a "heavy dosis sprayer" plane  8)

Skip to 2:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWhI-K1bOM
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on June 02, 2010, 09:13:54 PM
Here is a site that shows the inside of a Chemtrail Plane:

http://theintelhub.com/2010/05/29/evergreen-air-cia-chemtrail-facility-leaked/

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Title: Today they are doing it again and again !
Post by: hartiberlin on June 03, 2010, 02:53:51 PM
Today is a sunny day in Berlin, Germany.

They just do it again and again.

Have a look at my new videos, which I recorded on the 29th of May and
today.

I am just uploading more videos to my youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/overunitydotcom#g/u (http://www.youtube.com/user/overunitydotcom#g/u)

These bastards must be stopped !  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on June 03, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
SUPER good videos Stefan.

I keep hoping that the NWO will run out of money for Chemtrails, but they will probably just print up some more money since they own the printing presses.

Thanks.

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: wattsup on June 03, 2010, 03:49:44 PM
What is required is for someone to shoot a small rocket and blow one of them fuckers right out of the sky. Then you will see which pilot will have the balls to fly one of them again. No pilots, no chemtrails.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cherryman on June 03, 2010, 05:59:11 PM
http://www.belfort-group.eu/sites/default/files/page/2010/05/COpart1.pdf (http://www.belfort-group.eu/sites/default/files/page/2010/05/COpart1.pdf)

A recent study about chemtrails.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on June 03, 2010, 10:20:04 PM
SUPER GOOD PDF Cherryman.

Thanks for the post.

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on June 04, 2010, 03:40:20 PM
BTW, The Government doesn't call them Chemtrails.

They call them their Direct & Indirect Aerosol Campaign.


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geupxiAQlM9xsBTF1XNyoA?p=direct+A+aerosol+campaign&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701&sao=0

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: PYRODIN123321 on June 04, 2010, 06:50:27 PM
http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-calling-all-activist-to-send-chemtrail-clips-for-new-documentary-film/
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on June 04, 2010, 09:03:30 PM
This is, what I just posted in the comments section at ALex´s
site:


Hi Alex, this is Stefan Hartmann the admin from

http://www.OverUnity.com

I just recorded 11 Chemtrails clips from over here Berlin Germany in High Definition and
uploaded them to Youtube.
I give you the full permission to use them in your film.

You can directly download them from youtube via the Download helper Firefox plugin.
Here they are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq6Q_oaYDnA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMoD7DhOEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRDev9luLjs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMIrj7ci3M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dREnJ7KBnFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFiVhbaVKjM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKbUd8EuOh0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr2H11kMC9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjPcMSOdUOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISzHX7ns6wA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzAtOyQgmMM

Here is a movie from 1965 from Berlin, from a friend of my father
done with a Super8 film-camera where you can see,
that the sky was just blue in these old days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHXD1BzhpyQ

Hope this helps.

Good luck for the upcoming movie.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TechStuf on June 04, 2010, 09:30:32 PM
The social engineering efforts by tptb via their media outlets have really lost their conniving sheen in recent years.  Now they practically come out and say what they mean to say.  I remember nearly 20 years ago, the star trek next generation series continually trickled out some of their plans as but one method of acclimatization. Various episodes touched on the actualization of weather modification.  What wasn't mentioned, of course, was the population control/reduction part of their fool's equation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BjEvQvHBTA#t=4m14s

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Weather_modification_network


They even had Ipads.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVqHoGKQXLI


Hmmm


Nothing new under the sun?



TS
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on July 14, 2010, 03:04:18 PM
Click on this LINK to see a great procedure to find Chemtrails using Google Maps.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C4HYbHl29I

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cherryman on July 19, 2010, 04:34:15 PM
Well ... caught red handed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSWnXQsgOU&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on August 02, 2010, 07:13:57 PM
New Post at:

Http://www.rense.com

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on August 26, 2010, 03:00:21 PM
A Tribute to Tesla.


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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Bob Smith on August 27, 2010, 06:54:04 PM
Just back from James Bay area of Canada - very remote, few people (mainly Cree Aboriginal), mostly just Moose, fish and other wildlife.  Lots of chemtrails being sprayed. Couldn't believe it - why spray way up there where there are very few people and mostly wilderness?
B
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: xeux on August 29, 2010, 07:32:09 PM
Hello All ,

For years i battle chemtrails and weather modification .

I use orgone capacitors pipe`s with many layers alu en plastic foil .
in the pipes i put crystals vacuum tubes and organic materials.
on top in the pipe is the main crystal  over the pipe at that crystal position i have a mobius coil big one.
I modulate the coil with a function generator .

the earth`s atmosphere is like a aura with layers like the d , e1, e2 layer . the have there own frequency because of the earth magnetic field .

If some one is willing to modulate mobius coils drop a mail .

Have fun with small scale scalar healing devices.

Kindly regards,

john

 
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: lwh on August 29, 2010, 08:54:03 PM
Just back from James Bay area of Canada - very remote, few people (mainly Cree Aboriginal), mostly just Moose, fish and other wildlife.  Lots of chemtrails being sprayed. Couldn't believe it - why spray way up there where there are very few people and mostly wilderness?
B

Probably because the effect the spraying has on people isn't deliberate and is just a side-effect the sprayers don't care about.  My guess is the spraying's being done for weather or atmosphere manipulation, or as part of some kind of over-the-horizon-radar type program.  But who knows.  We might even find out what it was all about fifty or a hundred years from now when technology has moved on and most of the people involved and effected are dead and current events have been safely consigned to history.  That seems to be the way it goes, when we put people who don't care about us in positions of power and authority and let them decide for us what's in our own best interests.   
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: quarktoo on October 16, 2010, 07:54:40 AM
Chemtrail contain barium which damages the thyroid.  A person without a thyroid is a zombie. Chemtrails are being sprayed to dumb people down and make them more sheeplish.

Other chemicals the zionist use are are:

MERCURY:
Mercury makes you attracted to moving light  - A TV to program your damaged mind now that it can no longer recognize truth.

High fructose corn syrup has 200 times the legal limit of mercury. Coke and Pepsi and all their subsidiaries are Israeli owned companies. Drink up zombies!

MSG
MSG makes you fat. We have known since the 1950's that if you want a fat lab rat, give it MSG. Rats are never fat in the wild.

MSG is also an excitotoxin which damages brain cells. The brain stem has the most robust neurons so it is the last to die. Now that your brain can't recognize truth or see options or possibility, it just reacts to fight or flight. They use fear based messaging to get you to do things to kill yourself like get a flu shot or join the military to fight FOR the people that are killing you. Good riddance!

DEA
Causes brain damage.

ASPARTAME:
I could go on with that subject all day. It was designed to be a chem boi warfare agent. - Google, the sum of all knowledge. 10% methal alcohol which kills brain cells and causes cancer. It is in 4000 different products in the US.

FLUORIDE:
Stalin was the first to put fluoride in his prison labor camp water systems. It actually causes tooth decay called fluorosis. It also damages organs like the brain.

Who is dumbing you down? The zionist that are creating diseases and wars to kill you while supressing the cures for disease. Google "Royal Rife and Dr. Fishbein".

DEAR CITIZENS,

THE DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA WAS A COMPLETE SUCCESS, YOU CAN STOP PARTICIPATING NOW

SINCERELY,

QUARKTOO

Sad to say, I think gentiles are too dumbed down and programmed to save themselves at this point. From what I have read, they plan to depopulate 90 -98 % of the Earth. Gentiles make up 98% of the Earth.

NOBODY has murdered more people for money than Dr. Fishbein who owned the American Medical Association and you never heard of him. All you ever hear about is Hitler from a mass media controlled by 7 zionists.

Read the Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion and you will see exactly what they have done. The boiling of the frog experiment and they are now turning the heat up all the way.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on October 17, 2010, 04:35:09 PM
EXCELLENT Post QuarkToo.

You are absolutely RIGHT.  It is a shame that most "sheeple" just don't care.  They think Ignorance is Bliss, But it isn't.


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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: quarktoo on October 17, 2010, 10:12:49 PM
EXCELLENT Post QuarkToo.

You are absolutely RIGHT.  It is a shame that most "sheeple" just don't care.  They think Ignorance is Bliss, But it isn't.


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They don't have the capacity to care. Love is a higher brain function.

The part of the brain that is targeted is the hipocampus which allows you to recognize truth, see options and possibility, puzzle solve. It is like the CPU of your brain.

Ever wonder why kids that have autism will sit in front of a computer screen and wave their hand back and forth? They are strobeing the light between their fingers. Me thinks they are trying to send light impulses through their eyes to send electrical impulses into their brain since autism is the brains inability to communicate with the various parts of the brain.

They frame he argument that autism is caused by mercury and the zombies take the bait. Mercury is only a small part of it. The formaldehyde in a vaccine destroys the brain cells when the brain is small.

Will they stop doing this to your children? No, not unless you kill them. It will take parents that stop HELPING them do this to your children.

That being said, you still have to eat, drink and breath so you can't stop it all the way.

step 1 is recognize that a zionist organized crime syndicate is robbing and murdering you little by little. EAT ORGANIC and get NO VACCINES.
Step 2 is to kill your television.
Step 3 is to take back the media while defending net neutrality with your life.
Step 4 is to stop using their euphemisms. Boldly use words language that exposes who they are. While zionism is not Judaism, it is mostly composed of ashkenazi jews.

In order to have Rothschild's banking system in your country, you have to give him control of the news media. Reuiters for example is owned by Rothchild. You must remove the word Jew from the mass media. You can use "Jewish" but only if it is positive or they will scream racist and bigot.

Not all Jews are racist or zionist and you will never defeat an enemy by becoming an enemy since they will simply covertly co-opt that. Hitler was funded by zionist Jews in the US like the Bush family. If the true history of WWI and WWII were ever made public, you would know how badly you have been deceived.

This is a pretty good read:

http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: happyfunball on October 18, 2010, 12:45:12 AM
They don't have the capacity to care. Love is a higher brain function.

The part of the brain that is targeted is the hipocampus which allows you to recognize truth, see options and possibility, puzzle solve. It is like the CPU of your brain.

Ever wonder why kids that have autism will sit in front of a computer screen and wave their hand back and forth? They are strobeing the light between their fingers. Me thinks they are trying to send light impulses through their eyes to send electrical impulses into their brain since autism is the brains inability to communicate with the various parts of the brain.

They frame he argument that autism is caused by mercury and the zombies take the bait. Mercury is only a small part of it. The formaldehyde in a vaccine destroys the brain cells when the brain is small.

Will they stop doing this to your children? No, not unless you kill them. It will take parents that stop HELPING them do this to your children.

That being said, you still have to eat, drink and breath so you can't stop it all the way.

step 1 is recognize that a zionist organized crime syndicate is robbing and murdering you little by little. EAT ORGANIC and get NO VACCINES.
Step 2 is to kill your television.
Step 3 is to take back the media while defending net neutrality with your life.
Step 4 is to stop using their euphemisms. Boldly use words language that exposes who they are. While zionism is not Judaism, it is mostly composed of ashkenazi jews.

In order to have Rothschild's banking system in your country, you have to give him control of the news media. Reuiters for example is owned by Rothchild. You must remove the word Jew from the mass media. You can use "Jewish" but only if it is positive or they will scream racist and bigot.

Not all Jews are racist or zionist and you will never defeat an enemy by becoming an enemy since they will simply covertly co-opt that. Hitler was funded by zionist Jews in the US like the Bush family. If the true history of WWI and WWII were ever made public, you would know how badly you have been deceived.

This is a pretty good read:

http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/

Quite a nerve to go along with blaming 'Zionist Jews' for the Holocaust. Object to the Rothschilds all you want, leave the bs at home. The Bush family isn't Jewish, genius.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: quarktoo on October 18, 2010, 02:37:10 AM
Quite a nerve to go along with blaming 'Zionist Jews' for the Holocaust. Object to the Rothschilds all you want, leave the bs at home. The Bush family isn't Jewish, genius.

Really... Brains are full of nerves. Why don't you try and develop some and then you can learn to read and learn a little history. George HW Bush's great grandfather was a Jewish Rabbi and wrote a book about Mohammad.

You probably need me to do your research for you so here....

http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-2-the-hitler-project/

You did get one thing right mouth breather, I have an IQ of 158 which is well above genius.

And here is some more for you.

http://www.exposingsatanism.org/bush-jewish.htm

This publication of the National Jewish Welfare Board lists a Major George Bush, Major Louis Bush, and Major Solomon Bush, as Jews participating in the American Revolutionary War against the British. It also reveals the money connection of Rothschild agent, Haym Salomon, to what it describes as the "weak U.S. government."


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 02, 2010, 03:21:28 AM
Really... Brains are full of nerves. Why don't you try and develop some and then you can learn to read and learn a little history. George HW Bush's great grandfather was a Jewish Rabbi and wrote a book about Mohammad.

You probably need me to do your research for you so here....

http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-2-the-hitler-project/

You did get one thing right mouth breather, I have an IQ of 158 which is well above genius.

And here is some more for you.

http://www.exposingsatanism.org/bush-jewish.htm

This publication of the National Jewish Welfare Board lists a Major George Bush, Major Louis Bush, and Major Solomon Bush, as Jews participating in the American Revolutionary War against the British. It also reveals the money connection of Rothschild agent, Haym Salomon, to what it describes as the "weak U.S. government."
I don't know what an IQ has to do with reality, or  fairness , or reality.
If we based IQ on the scale of "who's our dominator"....Hitler might be near the top of the list.....so fk that theory right then and there.
I could care less about your IQ.....many criminal psychotics were tested as "genius".
It's the sainatical reality of their theories that become welcome truths.
=FB=
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 02, 2010, 03:45:26 AM
By-The-Way ®

No German or other scientist has ever proved that "contrails are chemtrails".
EVER.....ever, ever, ever.
The current trend is to blame the REAL idea of geo-engineering...... to what is and was now currently called "chemtrails".
It is not. Geo-engineering is real, and is done on a minute basis. But it is no where near the "affect" or "effect" that the chemtrail community claims. In fact, if the chemtrail community were to come to some consensus (eventually), they would find little or no intentional human targets....at all....or ill effects (even though that's what they claim.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 02, 2010, 04:12:40 AM
mossad ?? grow the plot please. Show me something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqWs8pAsRk
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 04, 2010, 10:09:21 PM

Here is a laundry list of patents associated with chemtrail spraying.

United States Patent and Trademark Office
1338343 – April 27, 1920 – Process And Apparatus For The Production of Intense Artificial Clouds, Fogs, or Mists
1619183 – March 1, 1927 – Process of Producing Smoke Clouds From Moving Aircraft
1631753 – June 7, 1927 – Electric Heater – Referenced in 3990987
1665267 – April 10, 1928 – Process of Producing Artificial Fogs
1892132 – December 27, 1932 – Atomizing Attachment For Airplane Engine Exhausts
1928963 – October 3, 1933 – Electrical System And Method
1957075 – May 1, 1934 – Airplane Spray Equipment
2097581 – November 2, 1937 – Electric Stream Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2409201 – October 15, 1946 – Smoke Producing Mixture
2476171 – July 18, 1945 – Smoke Screen Generator
2480967 – September 6, 1949 – Aerial Discharge Device
2550324 – April 24, 1951 – Process For Controlling Weather
2510867 – October 9, 1951 – Method of Crystal Formation and Precipitation
2582678 – June 15, 1952 – Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes
2591988 – April 8, 1952 – Production of TiO2 Pigments – Referenced in 3899144
2614083 – October 14, 1952 – Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture
2633455 – March 31, 1953 – Smoke Generator
2688069 – August 31, 1954 – Steam Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2721495 – October 25, 1955 – Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere
2730402 – January 10, 1956 – Controllable Dispersal Device
2801322 – July 30, 1957 – Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel – Referenced in 3990987
2881335 – April 7, 1959 – Generation of Electrical Fields
2908442 – October 13, 1959 – Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds
2986360 – May 30, 1962 – Aerial Insecticide Dusting Device
2963975 – December 13, 1960 – Cloud Seeding Carbon Dioxide Bullet
3126155 – March 24, 1964 – Silver Iodide Cloud Seeding Generator – Referenced in 3990987
3127107 – March 31, 1964 – Generation of Ice-Nucleating Crystals
3131131 – April 28, 1964 – Electrostatic Mixing in Microbial Conversions
3174150 – March 16, 1965 – Self-Focusing Antenna System
3234357 – February 8, 1966 – Electrically Heated Smoke Producing Device
3274035 – September 20, 1966 – Metallic Composition For Production of Hydroscopic Smoke
3300721 – January 24, 1967 – Means For Communication Through a Layer of Ionized Gases
3313487 – April 11, 1967 – Cloud Seeding Apparatus
3338476 – August 29, 1967 – Heating Device For Use With Aerosol Containers – Referenced in 3990987
3410489 – November 12, 1968 – Automatically Adjustable Airfoil Spray System With Pump
3429507 – February 25, 1969 – Rainmaker
3432208 – November 7, 1967 – Fluidized Particle Dispenser
3441214 – April 29, 1969 – Method And Apparatus For Seeding Clouds
3445844 – May 20, 1969 – Trapped Electromagnetic Radiation Communications System
3456880 – July 22, 1969 – Method Of Producing Precipitation From The Atmosphere
3518670 June 30, 1970 – Artificial Ion Cloud
3534906 – October 20, 1970 – Control of Atmospheric Particles
3545677 – December 8, 1970 – Method of Cloud Seeding
3564253 – February 16, 1971 – System And Method For Irradiation Of Planet Surface Areas
3587966 – June 28, 1971 – Freezing Nucleation
3601312 – August 24, 1971 – Methods of Increasing The Likelihood oF Precipatation By The Artificial Introduction Of Sea Water Vapor Into The Atmosphere Winward Of An Air Lift Region
3608810 – September 28, 1971 – Methods of Treating Atmospheric Conditions
3608820 – September 20, 1971 – Treatment of Atmospheric Conditions by Intermittent Dispensing of Materials Therein
3613992 – October 19, 1971 – Weather Modification Method
3630950 – December 28, 1971 – Combustible Compositions For Generating Aerosols, Particularly Suitable For Cloud Modification And Weather Control And Aerosolization Process
USRE29142 – This patent is a reissue of patent US3630950 – Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process
3659785 – December 8, 1971 – Weather Modification Utilizing Microencapsulated Material
3666176 – March 3, 1972 – Solar Temperature Inversion Device
3677840 – July 18, 1972 – Pyrotechnics Comprising Oxide of Silver For Weather Modification Use
3722183 – March 27, 1973 – Device For Clearing Impurities From The Atmosphere
3769107 – October 30, 1973 – Pyrotechnic Composition For Generating Lead Based Smoke
3784099 – January 8, 1974 – Air Pollution Control Method
3785557 – January 15, 1974 – Cloud Seeding System
3795626 – March 5, 1974 – Weather Modification Process
3808595 – April 30, 1974 – Chaff Dispensing System
3813875 – June 4, 1974 – Rocket Having Barium Release System to Create Ion Clouds In The Upper Atmopsphere
3835059 – September 10, 1974 – Methods of Generating Ice Nuclei Smoke Particles For Weather Modification And Apparatus Therefore
3835293 – September 10, 1974 – Electrical Heating Aparatus For Generating Super Heated Vapors – Referenced in 3990987
3877642 – April 15, 1975 – Freezing Nucleant
3882393 – May 6, 1975 – Communications System Utilizing Modulation of The Characteristic Polarization of The Ionosphere
3896993 – July 29, 1975 – Process For Local Modification of Fog And Clouds For Triggering Their Precipitation And For Hindering The Development of Hail Producing Clouds
3899129 – August 12, 1975 – Apparatus for generating ice nuclei smoke particles for weather modification
3899144 – August 12, 1975 – Powder contrail generation
3940059 – February 24, 1976 – Method For Fog Dispersion
3940060 – February 24, 1976 – Vortex Ring Generator
3990987 – November 9, 1976 – Smoke generator
3992628 – November 16, 1976 – Countermeasure system for laser radiation
3994437 – November 30, 1976 – Broadcast dissemination of trace quantities of biologically active chemicals
4042196 – August 16, 1977 – Method and apparatus for triggering a substantial change in earth characteristics and measuring earth changes
RE29,142 – February 22, 1977 – Reissue of: 03630950 – Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process
4035726 – July 12, 1977 – Method of controlling and/or improving high-latitude and other communications or radio wave surveillance systems by partial control of radio wave et al
4096005 – June 20, 1978 – Pyrotechnic Cloud Seeding Composition
4129252 – December 12, 1978 – Method and apparatus for production of seeding materials
4141274 – February 27, 1979 – Weather modification automatic cartridge dispenser
4167008 – September 4, 1979 – Fluid bed chaff dispenser
4347284 – August 31, 1982 – White cover sheet material capable of reflecting ultraviolet rays
4362271 – December 7, 1982 – Procedure for the artificial modification of atmospheric precipitation as well as compounds with a dimethyl sulfoxide base for use in carrying out said procedure
4402480 – September 6, 1983 – Atmosphere modification satellite
4412654 – November 1, 1983 – Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids
4415265 – November 15, 1983 – Method and apparatus for aerosol particle absorption spectroscopy
4470544 – September 11, 1984 – Method of and Means for weather modification
4475927 – October 9, 1984 – Bipolar Fog Abatement System
4600147 – July 15, 1986 – Liquid propane generator for cloud seeding apparatus
4633714 – January 6, 1987 – Aerosol particle charge and size analyzer
4643355 – February 17, 1987 – Method and apparatus for modification of climatic conditions
4653690 – March 31, 1987 – Method of producing cumulus clouds
4684063 – August 4, 1987 – Particulates generation and removal
4686605 – August 11, 1987 – Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth’s atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
4704942 – November 10, 1987 – Charged Aerosol
4712155 – December 8, 1987 – Method and apparatus for creating an artificial electron cyclotron heating region of plasma
4744919 – May 17, 1988 – Method of dispersing particulate aerosol tracer
4766725 – August 30, 1988 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
4829838 – May 16, 1989 – Method and apparatus for the measurement of the size of particles entrained in a gas
4836086 – June 6, 1989 – Apparatus and method for the mixing and diffusion of warm and cold air for dissolving fog
4873928 – October 17, 1989 – Nuclear-sized explosions without radiation
4948257 – August 14, 1990 – Laser optical measuring device and method for stabilizing fringe pattern spacing
48050 – August 14, 1990 – Liquid atomizing a94pparatus for aerial spraying
4999637 – March 12, 1991 – Creation of artificial ionization clouds above the earth
5003186 – March 26, 1991 – Stratospheric Welsbach seeding for reduction of global warming
5005355 – April 9, 1991 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
5038664 – August 13, 1991 – Method for producing a shell of relativistic particles at an altitude above the earths surface
5041760 – August 20, 1991 – Method and apparatus for generating and utilizing a compound plasma configuration
5041834 – August 20, 1991 – Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be tilted
5056357 – October 15, 1991- Acoustic method for measuring properties of a mobile medium
5059909 – October 22, 1991 – Determination of particle size and electrical charge
5104069 – April 14, 1992 – Apparatus and method for ejecting matter from an aircraft
5110502 – May 5, 1992 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
5156802 – October 20, 1992 – Inspection of fuel particles with acoustics
5174498 – December 29, 1992 – Cloud Seeding
5148173 – September 15, 1992 – Millimeter wave screening cloud and method
5245290 – September 14, 1993 – Device for determining the size and charge of colloidal particles by measuring electroacoustic effect
5286979 – February 15, 1994 – Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin
5296910 – March 22, 1994 – Method and apparatus for particle analysis
5327222 – July 5, 1994 – Displacement information detecting apparatus
5357865 – October 25, 1994 – Method of cloud seeding
5360162 – November 1, 1994 – Method and composition for precipitation of atmospheric water
5383024 – January 17, 1995 – Optical wet steam monitor
5425413 – June 20, 1995 – Method to hinder the formation and to break-up overhead atmospheric inversions, enhance ground level air circulation and improve urban air quality
5434667 – July 18, 1995 – Characterization of particles by modulated dynamic light scattering
5441200 – August 15, 1995 – Tropical cyclone disruption
5486900 – January 23, 1996 – Measuring device for amount of charge of toner and image forming apparatus having the measuring device
5556029 – September 17, 1996 – Method of hydrometeor dissipation (clouds)
5628455 – May 13, 1997 – Method and apparatus for modification of supercooled fog
5631414 – May 20, 1997 – Method and device for remote diagnostics of ocean-atmosphere system state
5639441 – June 17, 1997 – Methods for fine particle formation
5762298 – June 9, 1998 – Use of artificial satellites in earth orbits adaptively to modify the effect that solar radiation would otherwise have on earth’s weather
5912396 – June 15, 1999 – System and method for remediation of selected atmospheric conditions
5922976 – July 13, 1999 – Method of measuring aerosol particles using automated mobility-classified aerosol detector
5949001 – September 7, 1999 – Method for aerodynamic particle size analysis
5984239 – November 16, 1999 – Weather modification by artificial satellite
6025402 – February 15, 2000 – Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin
6030506 – February 29, 2000 – Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species
6034073 – March 7, 2000 – Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity
6045089 – April 4, 2000 – Solar-powered airplane
6056203 – May 2, 2000 – Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds
6110590 – August 29, 2000 – Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same
6263744 – July 24, 2001 – Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector
6281972 – August 28, 2001 – Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution
6315213 – November 13, 2001 – Method of modifying weather
6382526 – May 7, 2002 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6408704 – June 25, 2002 – Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus
6412416 – July 2, 2002 – Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method
6520425 – February 18, 2003 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6539812 – April 1, 2003 – System for measuring the flow-rate of a gas by means of ultrasound
6553849 – April 29, 2003 – Electrodynamic particle size analyzer
6569393 – May 27, 2003 – Method and device for cleaning the atmosphere
See the full article here: http://www.seektress.com/patlist.htm

Short URL: http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=9344

http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=9344


Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: happyfunball on November 05, 2010, 01:37:09 AM
Really... Brains are full of nerves. Why don't you try and develop some and then you can learn to read and learn a little history. George HW Bush's great grandfather was a Jewish Rabbi and wrote a book about Mohammad.

You probably need me to do your research for you so here....

http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-2-the-hitler-project/

You did get one thing right mouth breather, I have an IQ of 158 which is well above genius.

And here is some more for you.

http://www.exposingsatanism.org/bush-jewish.htm

This publication of the National Jewish Welfare Board lists a Major George Bush, Major Louis Bush, and Major Solomon Bush, as Jews participating in the American Revolutionary War against the British. It also reveals the money connection of Rothschild agent, Haym Salomon, to what it describes as the "weak U.S. government."

Brains are full of neurons. I'm Jewish, I don't get a dime from the Rothschilds or the Bushes. Way to be oblivious to the fact that 6 million people died in gas chambers etc. Why not just wear a Nazi armband.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 05, 2010, 07:14:26 PM
Cloud seeding is not a "chemtrail".
It is cloud seeding.
Nor is "skywriting".
...and none of this is "secret".

You are including all this extra info under the umbrella term "chemtrail", so it can seem like "chemtrailing" is a huge problem, with lots of evidence and sources.......to which "chemtrails", have so very, very little.

You are guilty as well, for your obvious smokescreen.
Perhaps you might patent that.

=me=

Here is a laundry list of patents associated with chemtrail spraying.

United States Patent and Trademark Office
1338343 – April 27, 1920 – Process And Apparatus For The Production of Intense Artificial Clouds, Fogs, or Mists
1619183 – March 1, 1927 – Process of Producing Smoke Clouds From Moving Aircraft
1631753 – June 7, 1927 – Electric Heater – Referenced in 3990987
1665267 – April 10, 1928 – Process of Producing Artificial Fogs
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...(snip)

Short URL: http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=9344

http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=9344


Regards...
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on November 05, 2010, 09:04:56 PM
Chemtrail News.



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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 06, 2010, 03:40:44 AM
If people here are so concerned and convinced that their Gov't is misleading them, and even lying to them.....then perhaps those accusing the Gov't, of such actions, should themselves not mislead and lie.
The quoted post below, is case and point.
Here is the evidence that the below linked photo is merely a test system, where barrels filled with water were used to determine the airplane's flying response, when water (as weight) was pumped to different parts of the fuselage.
Someone made up a fantastic story around a unique photo.....and it was then circulated around the net as an "OMG !!, look at that proof.".
http://contrailscience.com/contrail-or-chemtrail/

Now, the deception comes when....even when presented valid evidence of the photo's real purpose and source, many (heck, most ??) chemtrailers will still stick to the "whistleblower/tanks of chemicals" story.....and even continue to spread it as if it were true.
That is called denial, is horribly irresponsible.

(from the top of page 7, in this thread (2 pages ago))........
Here is a site that shows the inside of a Chemtrail Plane:

http://theintelhub.com/2010/05/29/evergreen-air-cia-chemtrail-facility-leaked/

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 06, 2010, 02:50:19 PM

Yes, I noticed a few early patents, but I also know that the war on humanity has been going on a lot earlier...ever done a body count down through the ages ?

And guess what, its the same bloodlines behind it all.

You sound as if you don't believe they are spraying the atmosphere with poison...methinks thow doth protest too much.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 06, 2010, 03:26:26 PM
A body count through the ages ??...mortality rates have decreased !!
One of the many, many sources...
http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/human_pop/human_pop.html#Mortality (http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/human_pop/human_pop.html#Mortality)
Show me a body count source for your claim.

Bloodlines..(??)..I don't know what you mean.

I would believe in chemtrails, if there were any credible evidence proving it.
What would also assist in convincing me of such things, is if I wasn't expected to believe unexplained theories from groups of anti-scientists.........or groups who take one aspect of science, and completely ignore the rest.

In the OU part of this site (hey I think it's in the title, too as "free energy"), people develop a theory, build it, and test it scientifically. Then, if it can be replicated, and tested scientifically by others, it becomes believable, and taken for fact. This method seems unnecessary for the chemtrails topic, for people to accept that as fact.
Why ?

And without sufficient evedince, why wouldn't I protest ??
Wouldn't that be the logical thing to do ??
Wouldn't you expect that of a smart person ?
Isn't being skeptical a bit healthy ?

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 06, 2010, 03:33:49 PM

Those are the empty words of a troll...time to move on.

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 07, 2010, 04:22:04 AM
Empty words ??
I answered your question, and with a link.
I am on-topic, as well.
How are those "empty words" of a troll ?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on November 07, 2010, 06:09:22 AM
@Freq_Band
I think you don´t have watched the videos.

If this would be just water vapour, these "clouds" would go away in a few minutes,
but don´t stay for a longer time as it is....

Just look at the sky !!!
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 07, 2010, 12:46:16 PM

When someone new arrives on a thread ignoring the obvious...that is the stock and trade of a troll or a paid disinfo agent.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 07, 2010, 04:32:06 PM
@Freq_Band
I think you don´t have watched the videos.

If this would be just water vapour, these "clouds" would go away in a few minutes,
but don´t stay for a longer time as it is....

Just look at the sky !!!

Thank you hartiberlin for the polite reply suggesting what I might try, in order to see it from your point of view.

I have seen many, many videos claiming "these are chemtrails.....".....and they show exactly what I see in the sky too !
Some days, I see long lasting vapor trails stretched across the sky. I see them turn into fat hazy ribbons, and often these will disperse into a white hazy sky-wide wash as the day progresses.

Attached are 2 photos I took myself (on the same day), looking across the California desert, in May, this year.

Although I came across a scientific explanation of this phenomenon, that it is water vapor turned into ice crystals from the engine exhaust.
If the conditions are right at the cruising altitude of commercial (or any aircraft), these vapor trails will not disperse immediately, but last, possibly for many hours.
This information is available from many different sources. It is taught in aviation schools, colleges and universities. It's found in books (pre-1995 as well) and is understood and well researched worldwide.
And it is not debated by trained scientific people.

What do you suggest I do with that explanation, or why should I not believe it ??


=FB=

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 12, 2010, 05:03:42 PM

hartiberlin, what method do the tankers use, to spray the skies ?

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on November 12, 2010, 05:36:47 PM
Click on this Link to see the patents for Chemtrails.  BTW, the Gov calls it Direct & Indirect Aerosol Campaign.


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AqFdlndaJy8_IJy7TGTFuN6bvZx4?p=chemtrail+patent&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7n6QbN1M8hwAw7BXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGFvAzAEZnIDeWZwLXQtNzAxBGhvc3RwdmlkA3lQRXk3MG9HN3Y3UVVncjBUTGU3d3hBTVIuNS5oVXpkYkpBQUEuR1MEbl9ncHMDMARuX3ZwcwMwBG9yaWdpbgNzcnAEcXVlcnkDZGlyZWN0IGluZGlyZWN0IGFlcm9zb2wgY2FtcGFpZ24Ec2FvAzEEdnRlc3RpZAM-?p=direct+indirect+aerosol+campaign&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701


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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 13, 2010, 06:35:40 AM
I see.
...though I don't understand how that might answer my question.
Thanks....
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 14, 2010, 03:19:04 AM
I don't see the difficulty of the question....
"what method do the tankers use, to spray the skies ?"

For a clearer understanding :
To put it another way, how is (are) the geo-engineering or chemtrails being deployed, on a such a regular basis ?
....or even put another way..... Regarding the planes everyone sees in the sky, crisscrossing, with long plumes behind them, as seen in the many videos, and also bee seen outside
my window today......How are they physically distributing their chemicals ?

I am not looking to argue, nor antagonize, nor do I intend to be rude.
I am wanting a polite, intelligent discussion.
If I am wrong in my thinking about the matter, I am asking you to please point that out.

(btw, Fatbird's link could be abbreviated, to eliminate the horizontal scroll)
(or is it just me who sees this ?)

Thanks...
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 14, 2010, 09:38:45 AM
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 15, 2010, 02:42:03 AM
From your lack of response to my very simple question, I assume  you know what I am getting at.
I will be direct, and to the point here....but I'm not angry.........

There is not one close photo of a single plane "spraying" any chemicals (or anything) at all on a daily or even weekly basis.
Not one.
Zero.
Nada.
Yet....the claim is, they are doing this "in plain sight", on a daily basis around the globe.

If they are doing this "in plain sight", "daily", and around the globe, ....please take a close photo as proof.

"Cloud seeding" leaves little, or no visible trail. Cloud seeding has been studied and sporadically implemented since the 1940's. There is no secret there.

The claims are mostly "look, there they are....and they are spraying us".....and recorded from a normal video camera lens.
...and the search for visual evidence stops there.
Why hasn't anyone video taped or photographed these "spraying planes" up-close ??
Is it too far up, at near 33k feet ?
I mean...they are doing it daily and globally, correct ?
So.....in the interest of certainty.....where are the photos ?
It should be so easy, being that it happens all the time.

No, it is not too far up, to take a close photo.
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?album=3345&thumbnails=&page_limit=15&album_name=Contrails!&album_creator=Delta717&disp_order=asc (http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?album=3345&thumbnails=&page_limit=15&album_name=Contrails!&album_creator=Delta717&disp_order=asc)
Notice that ALL the trails are coming from the engines......all of them.
If it was daily/weekly/even monthly spraying.....pictures are to be had, and "nozzles" noted.

Based on the lack of even ONE photo showing "spraying" that is supossedly happeng daily, around the world (and in "plain sight"), the next best argument is:
It's coming from the engines, and/or the fuel.
If this is the case.....show everyone simply ONE fleck of verifiable evidence that airline fuels are doped with extra chemicals or toxins.
All I need to begin to sway my mind,  is ONE verifiable chunk of evidence.

Patents do not tell me "what is happening right now". If I have an idea, I could patent it.
Just because a patent is granted, does not mean it is in practical use. Take these legitimate examples of what I am saying.....I can basically prove anything by posting patents.

Ouija Board:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=8GM_AAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://www.google.com/patents?id=8GM_AAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false)
"APPARATUS FOR FACILITATING THE BIRTH OF A CHILD BY CENTRIFUGAL FORCE"
http://www.google.com/patents?id=qtFaAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://www.google.com/patents?id=qtFaAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false)
Wormhole Generator......
http://www.google.com/patents?id=6yqbAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
Method of Swing on a Swing....
http://www.google.com/patents?id=T2QKAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://www.google.com/patents?id=T2QKAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false)

Thank you for reading all of this,
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: lwh on November 15, 2010, 04:44:55 PM
 ;)

Just playin with ya.   ;D

As far as I know, these are not spray nozzles. 

Let me ask you this though, do you even think it's possible, that, (a) 'they' are technically capable of such a thing and (b) that if they thought they had reason to, they would, and (c) that 'they' even exist? 

I'm not trying to challenge you in any way, and I'm not really interested in a debate or argument, I'm just curious.     
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on November 15, 2010, 09:44:01 PM
Click on this Link to see about a hundred chemtrail related photos:

Photos, Give Time To Load:

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies?z=3&c=4&n=1&m=-1&w=4&x=0&p=64

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 15, 2010, 11:31:32 PM

I always thought Rumsfeld's teeth looked familiar...you wood think he would have taken them from a newly buried skull, instead of a dead tobacco chewing wino.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on November 16, 2010, 12:59:18 AM
Good Points.  LOL


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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 17, 2010, 05:27:44 PM
;)

Just playin with ya.   ;D

As far as I know, these are not spray nozzles. 

Let me ask you this though, do you even think it's possible, that, (a) 'they' are technically capable of such a thing and (b) that if they thought they had reason to, they would, and (c) that 'they' even exist? 

I'm not trying to challenge you in any way, and I'm not really interested in a debate or argument, I'm just curious.     

Yes, the pics you show, those are wing "Wicks"....they "wick" away the static electricity that builds up on the wings. They are a necessity on nearly all flying craft with wings.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/design/q0234.shtml

  You asked...
a) "'Are "they" technically capable of such a thing" ?
Sure they (the gov't) are. They technically capable of blowing the world up with nukes, but that doesn't worry me that there is an evil intentional plot to do so.

b) "(b) that if they thought they had reason to, they would" ?
And poisoning themselves and their families at the same time ??...and expect all the additional people involved in such a world-wide plan to keep their mouths shut too....I think not...not anymore than I believe in the tooth fairy.

c) "and that 'they' even exist? "
(see above)



btw, the Rumsfeld comment was funny.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on November 17, 2010, 05:34:08 PM
Yes, the pics you show, those are wing "Wicks"....they "wick" away the static electricity that builds up on the wings. They are a necessity on nearly all flying craft with wings.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/design/q0234.shtml
and could the static 'wicks' be hollowed out? ;) or is that an impossibility?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 17, 2010, 06:11:30 PM
and could the static 'wicks' be hollowed out? ;) or is that an impossibility?

I guess so, but why ? Not much volume could be sprayed out of them. Besides, the planes need those wicks when flying, otherwise they wouldn't be there.
Also, they are only 1/4 to 1/2 wide, and hollowing them out would make them so fragile, they would break off at the speed a jet flies at.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on November 17, 2010, 06:18:08 PM
I guess so, but why ? Not much volume could be sprayed out of them. Besides, the planes need those wicks when flying, otherwise they wouldn't be there.
Also, they are only 1/4 to 1/2 wide, and hollowing them out would make them so fragile, they would break off at the speed a jet flies at.
do you have some data on how much 'volume' could or could not be sprayed out of them? or links to some data? of course planes need static wicks, that's not the point.
do you have some data or links to data that shows they would break off at the speed a jet flies at?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 17, 2010, 06:23:12 PM
I am not an aircraft mechanic or designer. Common sense says it's likely they would break.
Is there a reason you think it is possible ?
What sort of plane do you think they might need to disguise such a spray system ?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on November 17, 2010, 06:25:54 PM
I am not an aircraft mechanic or designer. Common sense says it's likely they would break.
Is there a reason you think it is possible ?
What sort of plane do you think they might need to disguise such a spray system ?
ok, common sense usually tells me not to assume things...
did you read the whole thread? http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6346.msg239200#msg239200
again, did you read the whole thread? http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6346.msg239200#msg239200
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 17, 2010, 06:39:09 PM
Yes, I read the whole thread.
Which part are you referring to ?
(edit...just saw your links...I'll go have a look.)

Common sense "is" a sort of assumption.
I assume that if I jump off a cliff, I might die, so the common sense is...don't try it, because I am comfortable in believing the result.
http://ethicalrealism.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/common-sense-assumptions-vs-self-evidence/
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 17, 2010, 06:43:48 PM
Which part (of that page) are you referring to ?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on November 17, 2010, 06:49:52 PM
Yes, I read the whole thread.
Which part are you referring to ?
(edit...just saw your links...I'll go have a look.)
post #45. the link takes you directly to it...

Common sense "is" a sort of assumption.
maybe in your world.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 17, 2010, 07:04:37 PM
I see it now. That anonymous "mechanic's letter".
That letter seems suspicious to me....looks like an angry employee who didn't follow directions....or it's just bogus. If "he" saw something suspicious, then other mechanics have too....where are their claims ?
But that's just a hunch on my part, and I can't prove a hunch.

But I still have yet to see one picture of a jet "spraying" from the place we are talking about. If they are doing this "daily", around the globe.....why not one  close photo ?
 
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 17, 2010, 09:09:51 PM

I smelllll troll meat..

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on November 17, 2010, 09:14:31 PM
I smelllll troll meat..

Regards...
try showering?

regards...

seriously capz, he has brought up some valid points and i'm playing devil's advocate for you because all you can seem to do when someone doesn't hold your world view is say something about trolls... ::)
how about you come up with a picture for him? one picture of a jet "spraying" from the place we are talking about shouldn't be that hard now should it?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 17, 2010, 09:26:50 PM

Cast aspersions on me because you are not perceptive enough to know when you're being baited...classy.

Why do tou think Stefan stopped responding ???

Regards...
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on November 17, 2010, 09:30:43 PM
Cast aspersions on me because you are not perceptive enough to know when you're being baited...classy.

Why do tou think Stefan stopped responding ???

Regards...
respond with logical fallacies because you don't have a cogent argument... classy.

who knows why he stopped responding. maybe he couldn't answer. maybe he didn't want to. i don't know, why don't you ask him?

regards...



how about you come up with a picture for him? one picture of a jet "spraying" from the place we are talking about shouldn't be that hard now should it?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 17, 2010, 09:37:18 PM

I'll waste no more words on this bullshit...there appears to be only enough for the 2 of you anyway.

enjoy...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 18, 2010, 10:54:42 AM
I'll waste no more words on this bullshit...there appears to be only enough for the 2 of you anyway.

enjoy...

I don't understand....you make claims, then back away when asked for proof ??
If spraying is being done "in plain sight"....then let's see some "plain sight" photos....up close.
That is such an easy request, that it's rather absurd when it's denied.

In other parts of this site....
For instance, let's say I claim "perpetual motion".
And someone asks me for a detailed photo of the rotation-point area....but then I call them a "troll"
for asking such a "ridiculous" question.
See my point ?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on November 18, 2010, 03:17:26 PM
Here are LOTS of Proofs with HUNDREDS & HUNDREDS of photos.  Let's see if you take the time to look at them.  LOL

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies?z=3&c=4&n=1&m=-1&w=4&x=0&p=64

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7n6QbN1M8hwAw7BXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGFvAzAEZnIDeWZwLXQtNzAxBGhvc3RwdmlkA3lQRXk3MG9HN3Y3UVVncjBUTGU3d3hBTVIuNS5oVXpkYkpBQUEuR1MEbl9ncHMDMARuX3ZwcwMwBG9yaWdpbgNzcnAEcXVlcnkDZGlyZWN0IGluZGlyZWN0IGFlcm9zb2wgY2FtcGFpZ24Ec2FvAzEEdnRlc3RpZAM-?p=direct+indirect+aerosol+campaign&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AqFdlndaJy8_IJy7TGTFuN6bvZx4?p=chemtrail+patent&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701


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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 19, 2010, 06:11:22 AM
None of those photos show anything being sprayed from the area in question.
I see a few however, where the contrail is coming from the engines.
In fact, all of them.

All of them coming from the engines here too......all kinds of jets.
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?album=3345&page_limit=15&album_name=Contrails!&album_creator=Delta717&disp_order=asc&page=1 (http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?album=3345&page_limit=15&album_name=Contrails!&album_creator=Delta717&disp_order=asc&page=1)
No other "spray" points seen.....none......not one, in anyone's links.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 21, 2010, 11:50:59 PM
If it is so common, why are there no photos of the dispersion of said chemicals ??
Why are there no photos of chemical dispersal....anywhere ?

Up-close photos are able to be taken -- we saw that in my previous link.
And this is supposedly happening daily, correct ?
but not ONE shows any dispersal points.
Why ?


Your ONLY option left, is to announce that the chemicals are mixed with the engine fuel, and I'm surprised that's not what you are concentrating on.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: eazystee on November 27, 2010, 11:36:48 PM
When I saw this topic I had to register to tell what Ive seen from chemtrails here in Southern California.  Long Beach to be exact.   I work graveyard and when Ive seen chemtrails mostly is @ 7am when i get off work.  As I have followed the planes/jets making these miles long chemtrails, I discovered that they eventually stop "spraying".  As I still observe that SAME jet it will make a U-turn go back to the opposite direction it was going and begin to spray again!  Now.  What commercial airline makes u-turns constantly in the air all day? (And I observed this ALL DAY long after this discovery.) Obviously its not a commercial airline and what would be the point in flying in circles?  Also.  I live a half mile from the Long Beach airport where I have observed MANY commercial airlines and still can see them MILES away heading out.   NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER have I seen them emit mile long contrails.  The contrails ive seen, where ice particles may be forming, disappear within seconds to minutes.   I know they are spraying something.  What it is Im still not clear as to what and for what "benefit".    Like I said before.  Ive observed the same jet constantly going in circles making multiple chemtrails.  The most ive seen are two at once.  But those two make about a dozen or more in the sky.  My proof from ALL DAY observation.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 28, 2010, 03:03:54 AM
I would be interested in photos of the planes making U-turns and/or circles.
Can you take some photos of these turns?....or some video ?

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I live a half mile from the Long Beach airport where I have observed MANY commercial airlines and still can see them MILES away heading out.   NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER have I seen them emit mile long contrails.
They won't emit contrails until they reach cruising altitude, and by that time, they are out of sight from the airport.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: eazystee on November 28, 2010, 03:30:59 AM
Im not telling you lies.  It's proof from me.  I have nothing to gain from it.  Im sure someone else has seen this since they are all over the world.  I havent videotapped anything because I dont join forums to talk about it.  I just read other peoples sightings.  Why do I need to have video proof?  Next time you see them being made look for yourself.  Have you ever watched a single plane make a chemtrail to where it shuts off the trail?  What does it do after?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on November 28, 2010, 04:11:50 AM
They had poll on Coast to Coast AM about what chemtrails are. The option it's a weapon was not there so I didn't vote. Among other things consider how a solar panel works. A particle travels through two layers of conductors and produce a voltage. Study the implications of that carefully. Metals and other conductors seem to be in every chemtrail mix. Polymers absorb moisture and can be used as weather control. They can hide human experimentation for bio-warfare experiments in the chemtrails. Canada caught the US using a Anthrax strain and there was a big stink years ago. Look it up on the net. Speaking of the net - http://www.rense.com/general92/fil.htm - They seek to destroy freedom of speech now. Let's be honest because they can't, they don't want the truth of what they do brought into the spotlight. http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/11/17/31924.htm

Let's go with the new news. http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11241002/H1N1_H3N2_PA.html - http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/nov/22/us-climate-scientists-fight-back

It was announced that they would not reveal the locations of the death in an earlier Jeff Rense article. This is to throw you off, this is how they taught you not to think. Do you remember when China jumped the US for the race specific SARS? I don't want a location, I want to know what race this (FLU?) was killing. I wasn't taught not to think.

I live in PA, let me give you a general description from observation. We had weeks of heavy chemtrails and ambulances were running steady. Then I complained right here on this site that I was locked out of chemtrailcentral.com for some unknown reason. My yahoo mail account became invalid and I lost control over membership and never recovered. I have the mail in my new box showing it was reactivated. I got in and got my new address typed into personal information and haven't managed to sign in since. At the time of the report in this forum we almost got a week of fairly clear skies. After that the skies have been polluted and now I hear people are dying. I'm independent and free and can come to my own conclusions so on my advisement The Pennsylvania Minutemen have gathered this and all pertinent information and taken it to Pittsburgh to have it analyzed. We have given the Federal government enough balls you would think they would have the good sense to behave. Well if my suspicions are confirmed we will throw them another monkey wrench, it's not a problem, we have many to throw. Let me Illuminate you, we don't have to fire a shot to take them down.

 Another observation is when they weren't spraying the crap out of us it got very cold at night time and frosted. They seemed to dump something into the atmosphere to turn things cold so it would snow a little. I know because I have been waking up with a dry throat and sinus problems. The chem-clouds seem to hold in the heat. It seems to be doing so of the supposed global warming. I ask you why you would expect reflective particles that move freely to reflect heat only one way? Why wouldn't it also reflect IR back down to the Earth. IR doesn't pass through metal. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas and they proposed misting the atmosphere with sea water? All the planets in the solar system are heating up and even if the Earth is warming were is the proof that man has anything to do with it? Well, they use this to try to get a global tax hold on the citizens of the entire world. Money for nothing and your checks for free. That's what this is about follow the money. Money and/or power will bring you to the correct answer every time.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 28, 2010, 04:11:55 AM
I am not calling you a liar.
I always look up at the sky. I see the streaks across the sky too.
I live in Burbank, CA.
But I have never seen them make U-turns or go in circles, as you claim to see very often.

A plane that stops making a trail, is too small to see with the naked eye.
There are planes flying over us all the time....we just don't see them at 35,000 ft elevation.
....unless they are making a contrail.
Are you perhaps "assuming" they turn around ?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on November 28, 2010, 04:49:13 AM
I have or had tons of pictures of chemtrails on chemtrailcentral and other members there have everything imaginable. You have to be a member to view them. There are some very good videos on youtube. I personally have photoed every aspect including a shot of them cutting a chemtrail with a dark almost black chemical spray. Join there and look, they are good people and don't spam at all. We even took a weed blower and blew fine Aluminum and Barium particles into the air underneath the power lines in front of my house and I photographed the lightning bolts around the tree and the sign. If you wish to try this yourself I recommend a British pyrotechnic supply. Comes up on the first page in search at ask.com every time.  Things in there, invisible planes, chembows, I took a picture of what happens when the powerful great lakes' down drafts bring the chemical crap right down to the ground. I have pictures of trees dying and other types of fall out pictures. I'm not the only one to have taken photographs of these and many other manifestations. The only one I haven't got so far is the spider web fall out from polymers.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 28, 2010, 05:56:15 AM
....We even took a weed blower and blew fine Aluminum and Barium particles into the air underneath
 the power lines in front of my house and I photographed the lightning bolts around the tree and the sign.
.......

But how could you know they were Aluminum and Barium particles ?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on November 28, 2010, 05:21:21 PM
Aluminum and Barium, you have not followed the topic long. There are lab reports on the net, years worth of them. We had a couple sunlight hours today. They are spraying right now and people from Pittsburgh are watching the stuff roll in from the West. I have a feeling this is going to lead to a very large monkey wrench. Sit back and watch, it will be entertaining. Small planes sneak samples a lot. We get covered here month at a time. We get it so thick you can't tell it's chemtrail unless you've been watching for years. Scaler waves and other things give it away. I got a picture of scaler waves wrapping the chemtrails right around my house, looks awesome. The kind of nightmare you expect to find Freddy Krueger in.

There are three layers off chemtrails usually. Imagine the capacitive effect. Giant laden jars around the surface of the Earth. Room for ionization for HAARP type atmospheric heaters. I've just scratched the surface of the uses as a weapon. There are many chemical mixes and different uses for them. It's one of the reasons why the public is so confused over the possible uses of them.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 28, 2010, 06:28:24 PM


*places tiny red cones around tar baby*

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 29, 2010, 03:49:08 AM
Aluminum and Barium, you have not followed the topic long.

Oh, I have.


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Scaler waves and other things give it away. I got a picture of scaler waves wrapping the chemtrails right around my house, looks awesome.
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They are spraying right now and people from Pittsburgh are watching the stuff roll in from the West. ........Sit back and watch, it will be entertaining.
Richard,
I get a sense you enjoy this stuff a little too much.
......that you are on a crusade.
.....and you think you are leading it.
I've seen your know-it-all posts and long-winded rants on Chemtrail Central.
You are close to being banned over there for making threatening remarks against the government.
You ARE, the lunatic fringe.


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We even took a weed blower and blew fine Aluminum and Barium particles into the air underneath the power lines in front of my house and I photographed the lightning bolts around the tree and the sign. If you wish to try this yourself I recommend a British pyrotechnic supply.
Wait, so you bought Al and Ba powder, and blew it around some power lines in your front yard...for fun ?
You are worried about some chemtrails @ 35,000 feet above you, yet you deliberately blow the stuff all over your front yard ??

You seem like a bright guy....and I hope you work things out.


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on November 29, 2010, 11:03:35 PM
I proved chemtrails are a health problem for anyone living in an area close to power and transmission. Not as concerned over a single event but, year after year exposure to concentrated electro-magnetic fields. Get a clue and I have some news for you. Our rivers are choked with GM corn pollen. Next year we are adding GM corn and wheat pollen to the tests. Corn pollen is a allergen. Try this search - news US river pollution corn pollen  All the returns will be cached, get the data quickly. They have already rubbed out normal access to this. We have a clean air act and a clean water act. Both are under siege by the government. Do you think the Great Lakes have become lifeless cesspools because of the common citizen? It's mostly industrial waste.  I've been picked spokes person for the Pennsylvania Minutemen. Do you really think I am alone on this topic? You reread everything I have said and search the news and see how accurate I am. The stuff you can't find anything on Either hasn't come to pass yet or has been obliterated from the net. In which case you can ask here and someone will remember it. Other people have taken pictures of the spray heads on the tails of jets. How many of you people have entertained the idea that the mutagens in India could have been manufactured? Look what Monsanto could be pulling adding to the chemtrail mix. If they are we will catch them. Respiratory diseases are projected to proliferate along with diabetes in the next few years. There has to be a cause to have an effect. We are going to find that cause. Every test from now on will include pollen.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on November 29, 2010, 11:32:57 PM
Excellent Points Raburgeson.



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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 30, 2010, 12:20:10 AM
......power and transmission..... electro-magnetic fields....GM...river pollution corn pollen....under siege by the government....Great Lakes have become lifeless cesspools ....Pennsylvania Minutemen.....mutagens in India.....Monsanto... chemtrail mix..... Respiratory diseases...diabetes ....corn pollen.

That is what I mean by a rant.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 30, 2010, 12:26:18 AM
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Other people have taken pictures of the spray heads on the tails of jets.

Where?
Lets see.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on November 30, 2010, 05:32:46 AM
http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=323182

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread513525/pg2

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://home.earthlink.net/~georgiamilitia/chemtrail1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://home.earthlink.net/~georgiamilitia/chemtrail.htm&usg=__R3EubBZbZ54Rd09BEpKDdc4kc24=&h=393&w=481&sz=26&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=MY7AxpngmFTx_M:&tbnh=133&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchemtrails%2Bspray%2Bhead%2Bon%2Bjet%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D961%26tbs%3Disch:1%26prmd%3Div&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=445&vpy=364&dur=9477&hovh=203&hovw=248&tx=125&ty=129&ei=83n0TJCKHYH_8AbW4ZjEBw&oei=83n0TJCKHYH_8AbW4ZjEBw&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=63&ved=1t:429,r:22,s:0

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://api.ning.com/files/kTJQtV5sO4*8OGRzilIHFnwMieICyBzuIOKMcaC78gAfP0NNKxTS2WmwHn-E99gnbuuAuOtvoffdSwpwXnESp5hWBs4nq9NF/chemsnozzleupclose.JPG&imgrefurl=http://snardfarker.ning.com/forum/topics/what-in-the-world-are-they%3FgroupUrl%3Dchemtrailreporting%26xg_source%3Dshorten_twitter&usg=__vShpqO9kvxQFLKHhN0OSNwr9xGU=&h=359&w=386&sz=70&hl=en&start=63&zoom=1&tbnid=mm1gLyYDrRxwXM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchemtrails%2Bspray%2Bhead%2Bon%2Bjet%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D961%26tbs%3Disch:10,960&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1517&vpy=528&dur=3687&hovh=216&hovw=233&tx=118&ty=124&ei=mnr0TNuCDsWBlAfjlMXEBQ&oei=83n0TJCKHYH_8AbW4ZjEBw&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=62&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:63&biw=1920&bih=961

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://home.earthlink.net/~georgiamilitia/chemtrail3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://home.earthlink.net/~georgiamilitia/chemtrail.htm&usg=__arxoU49GJVlHRmrBG1IeTRyJl5s=&h=493&w=562&sz=74&hl=en&start=187&zoom=1&tbnid=s6IXm8yI3Sy0nM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchemtrails%2Bspray%2Bhead%2Bon%2Bjet%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D961%26tbs%3Disch:10,2380&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1509&vpy=266&dur=3696&hovh=210&hovw=240&tx=83&ty=73&ei=SXv0TOauNsSBlAeg2qnHBQ&oei=83n0TJCKHYH_8AbW4ZjEBw&esq=4&page=4&ndsp=62&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:187&biw=1920&bih=961

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ccn1.net/POTD2/spray-plane2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://triadfreedom.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-is-this-plane-spraying-in-sky-can.html&usg=__bU14oB0khHGxGCxWHEIA0oRf8Gg=&h=450&w=600&sz=41&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=70bu8pqSlSwPCM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=173&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchemtrails%2Bspray%2Bhead%2Bon%2Bjet%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D961%26tbs%3Disch:10,599&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1628&vpy=191&dur=454&hovh=156&hovw=208&tx=150&ty=107&ei=NXz0TJLmKIaBlAfmm8TPBQ&oei=83n0TJCKHYH_8AbW4ZjEBw&esq=23&page=1&ndsp=63&ved=1t:429,r:32,s:0&biw=1920&bih=961

Just go to a search engine that has category buttons and click images and search. Different search engines will bring up more stuff. Of course there are many that will try to deny and call that debunking. The fact is everyone here has seen the stripes in the sky. Check out chemtrail patterns in search too the results are astounding. They spray so heavy here that I don't get those type of pictures. The scum starts out white in the morning and turns gray by noon and we don't see anything but a helicopter ambulance now and then. I don't no where they think they are going to hand off the fuel bill. Military budget? Ohio is taking a beating too, I've watched the blankets come in on the prevailing winds, after which they can put a thousand planes over you head and you wouldn't know.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 30, 2010, 08:24:31 AM
#1 Vid ....was FIRST posted on youtube by USAFFEKC1O, and he posted it as a joke. TankerEnemy took it and those itialians possibly misunderstood it (translation) , and re-posted the now viral video.
USAFFEKC1O commented on his own video, saying, "You guys who keep saying “TOO LATE” need to think before you open your mouth…I don’t care that the videos are still out there and going viral. THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE PRANK!!!! …for all of you chemtrail idiots to get all excited as if these videos are the holy grail of chemtrail videos and for me and my friends to laugh at you while you spread them. The more passionate you guys are about this, the more entertaining it is for those of us who live in the real world. Keep on spreading!!"
If you listen to the pilots in the chase plane, they are laughing and sarcastically joking about messing with all the chemtrailers out there on youtube, by posting the video.

#2...forum thread...what are you referring to ?

#3 Photo ...dumping fuel. Some plane's fuel dump tubes are at the tip of the wings, but a few are closer in.
Here is the plane...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-6_Mercury
There is external equipment at this Navy plane's wing tips (ESM/SATCOM), therefore the fuel dump tubes were moved in closer.


#4 Google image...bad link, but I found it.....here's the original photo...
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Boeing%20NKC-135A%20Stratotanker%20%28717-100%29/0351902/L/&width=667&height=1012&sok=&photo_nr=3&prev_id=0949608&next_id=0069887 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Boeing%20NKC-135A%20Stratotanker%20%28717-100%29/0351902/L/&width=667&height=1012&sok=&photo_nr=3&prev_id=0949608&next_id=0069887)
It's a water spraying test rig used for testing a plane's response to icing during flight.
Wanna be surprised ?? see....
https://www.safaq.hq.af.mil/news/march04/raptor.html (https://www.safaq.hq.af.mil/news/march04/raptor.html)
and here...
http://consci.s3.amazonaws.com//wp-content/uploads/8804-l.jpg (http://consci.s3.amazonaws.com//wp-content/uploads/8804-l.jpg)
and
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Boeing%20NKC-135A%20Stratotanker%20%28717-100%29/0069876/L (http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Boeing%20NKC-135A%20Stratotanker%20%28717-100%29/0069876/L)
and here at an air show (they're displaying it....ohh, so secret)
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Boeing%20NKC-135A%20Stratotanker%20%28717-100%29/0069877/L (http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Boeing%20NKC-135A%20Stratotanker%20%28717-100%29/0069877/L)
and
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Boeing-NKC-135A-Stratotanker/0069886/&sid=c6a629fd83478508d4b9552645fea0d9 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Boeing-NKC-135A-Stratotanker/0069886/&sid=c6a629fd83478508d4b9552645fea0d9)
....etc....


#5 Image.....is a normal contrail coming from the (2) engines. It is NOT coming from the tail. There is always a lag behind the engines before a contrail is formed.....the heat of the engines prevents the water vapor from freezing for a split second. You will see this effect in every contrail, on every plane.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Virgin-Atlantic-Airways/Airbus-A340-642/0690281/L/ (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Virgin-Atlantic-Airways/Airbus-A340-642/0690281/L/)

#6 Is of an atmospheric research plane. See the tubes pointed forward ?...why ?
Here are a few other photos of it...
http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground3forum.jpg (http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground3forum.jpg)
http://consci.s3.amazonaws.com//wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground1forum.jpg (http://consci.s3.amazonaws.com//wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground1forum.jpg)
In fact, this plane is so non-secret, there are more...
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Grumman-G-159-Gulfstream/0176107/L/&sid=d1edf50b07d73c8bfe332479bdce5ed3 (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Grumman-G-159-Gulfstream/0176107/L/&sid=d1edf50b07d73c8bfe332479bdce5ed3)
and
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5840370 (http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5840370)
and
http://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N701BN (http://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N701BN)
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw2513/4703512571/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw2513/4703512571/)
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw2513/4703443847/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw2513/4703443847/in/photostream/)
and
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eol.ucar.edu/projects/vocals/logistics_support/telecon/g1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.eol.ucar.edu/projects/vocals/logistics_support/telecon/rex_dip_note.html&usg=__I1HQ7ZccjMb56SEZH-Cj8FCkR-I=&h=960&w=1200&sz=207&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=dmQB__K3fAT4KM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=181&prev=/images%3Fq%3DN701BN%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Ds%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D851%26tbs%3Disch:1%26prmd%3Div&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=133&vpy=72&dur=1317&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=154&ty=119&ei=U6X0TNuqNYnAsAPq_ZCYDA&oei=U6X0TNuqNYnAsAPq_ZCYDA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eol.ucar.edu/projects/vocals/logistics_support/telecon/g1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.eol.ucar.edu/projects/vocals/logistics_support/telecon/rex_dip_note.html&usg=__I1HQ7ZccjMb56SEZH-Cj8FCkR-I=&h=960&w=1200&sz=207&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=dmQB__K3fAT4KM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=181&prev=/images%3Fq%3DN701BN%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Ds%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D851%26tbs%3Disch:1%26prmd%3Div&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=133&vpy=72&dur=1317&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=154&ty=119&ei=U6X0TNuqNYnAsAPq_ZCYDA&oei=U6X0TNuqNYnAsAPq_ZCYDA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0)
....etc....

All of these are easily explained as not chemtrail sprayers.
You have shown me examples of sprayers coming from all places on a plane.
I have shown you multiple sources, as why you are mistaken.
But why do we most often see contrails coming from the engines ? (like 99% of the time) ?
If this is happening all the time, around the world....why nearly all the time, are contrails emanating from the engines ?

Should I just look at your photos....then look at a speck, @ 29,000 feet in the sky....and forget the "how and why" as to how they might or might-not be connected ?  Wouldn't you expect a bit more savvy educational effort in your strive to convince?
If you were the teacher, and the student asked "why?"....wouldn't that make him a worthy student ?

A previous poster here claimed to witness planes making u-turns and circles in the skies all the time, almost every day. When I asked for him to photograph this, he scoffed, and disappeared. Many claim "they see planes making u-turns all the time"....but I have yet to see but a few pictures across the net, but with hundreds of claims that they do it all the time.
 




 
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on November 30, 2010, 10:50:45 AM
Yes they can use the engines too, the modern day jet engine uses a air chamber around the engine to muffle the sound of the engine.
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6Y-NXZmDcxU/SXOcJpfdvoI/AAAAAAAACTU/MlwNGr0LKzI/s400/chemtrails%2B23.jpg&imgrefurl=http://arcticcompass.blogspot.com/2009/01/chemtrails.html&usg=__6rJdLz91dBvIP1HX1hRtydrydkQ=&h=317&w=396&sz=13&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=nYyzz3V7QgEYOM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchemtrails%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D918%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=911&vpy=483&dur=1021&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=145&ty=102&ei=Y8f0TI2tIcG88gb20NjIBw&oei=Y8f0TI2tIcG88gb20NjIBw&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=67&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0

Perfect example here and chemical reactions are faster and more complete in a high energy environment.

If one of these planes are dumping fuel it's worse than a chemtrail. Look up how dangerous the additives for modern jet fuel are. Total carcinogen jet fuel nightmare. You are very good at trying to explain this away. Why don't you explain away all the patents to produce chemtrails? Explain it to all the people that only need to look up and watch them doing this crap.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 30, 2010, 04:40:34 PM
If one of these planes are dumping fuel it's worse than a chemtrail. Look up how dangerous the additives for modern jet fuel are. Total carcinogen jet fuel nightmare. You are very good at trying to explain this away. Why don't you explain away all the patents to produce chemtrails? Explain it to all the people that only need to look up and watch them doing this crap.

Dumping jet fuel is not good in any argument. But it is so rare that it happens. Ever seen or smell someone painting their car outside ? ...nearly as toxic (or more), and happens much more often. Other ground based industries are bigger constant polluters than planes occasionally dumping fuel.

The patents....publishing a patent does not mean the patent is currently in use, it just means that the idea belongs to a certain individual or company. I like to go on to Google Patents, and look at all the crazy/funny ideas people come up with. I've seen teleportation patents.....if those actually worked, and were being currently used, the world would be a different place.
And the patents are public...they're not hiding any secrets.

I don't think it's enough to "only look up" and assume what you see is something sinister....even if you don't trust the government. Heck, I don't trust the government on many issues.
But in this case, the real evidence is just not there. The info suggested frankly does not make sense......and very far fetched.

I am not good at "explaining away chemtrails". It's the lack of proof that explains itself away.
Anyone could do the research on those photos above, and reach the same conclusion that they are not chemtrail sprayers.
I wish more people would investigate further, before posting photos on blogs, and claiming that something "looks strange, therefor it's evil".
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on November 30, 2010, 07:08:29 PM
There is a regular flow chart for these (debunkers). It's aimed at humiliation and discrediting anyone deemed a threat to the lies. As you will notice photographs are always fake or Photoshoped. The person is misguided, lying or crazy. There's always some excuse. The main idea is to get the person running around in circles on the net trying to prove his point until he looks like a fool. He will either go to some bad information left by these well paid individuals or run away and not talk about the issue ever again. They prefer choice number two.

If you have a problem finding something on the net I urge you too learn how to use three basic tools for search engines. You might grumble and not want to do this but, - + and & will make your life much easier and bring you better results. Patents like the ones being discussed here only become visible if they feel a very great need to protect them. If you hear it on the news they have been doing it for at least a decade. Of course those that depend on the government are the first to follow.

I have to go do some reading to learn something myself this morning. I have to learn how to turn thumbnails into jpgs to save room on the site. Let me tell you the exact same flow chart is used against inventors. It's very important we find free energy. Let me tell you how important. Have you heard people say the world is overpopulated. That's total bunk. What the world is overpopulated with is bad technology. Right now industry we are using is locking up free oxygen in the atmosphere. Oil products are at the top of a long list. China will be the first to tell to we need clean abundant energy.

I saw news highlighted by Coast to Coast AM. The news article said they could change the atmosphere of the sun so it would reflect heat back to the surface. Later in the article they said they felt it was a good thing to do because it could work. Has anyone else in here read that article? Of course they deny they made the article but, they deny they made this clip. Google Hemp for Victory. People spent over 2 decades hunting this clip down. Once you have viewed it you will have no doubt who made it.

I took pictures just a bit ago to show you you can look up the four points of the compass and straight up and all there is is a blank of scum. Once I figure out how to basically use no space to show you I'll be back and I urge all members from the Northeastern US to report. They have whited out the sky here. Blue is not to be seen anywhere. Over the lake on the picture to the North there are dark gray stripes. I just want to show you if you can take a picture of the planes spraying you aren't officially spayed yet. There used to be a tourism ad on the radio claiming we get more sunny days than Florida. The last few years we have been at least getting 2 sunny days a month. Funny thing is the hunters that report that hunt in the Canadian far North report they aren't spraying to protect the ice that is so precious to them. Also it's reported that people that believe the warming tails have been making treks to the North Pole in winter time and find nights below -100 degrees F. That's an easy one to search for. What isn't easy to search for is what you need to beat the truth out of the US government. At first start you need the exact numbers and name of a document. You need more money than God and a decade for the courts and then if every T is crossed and every I is dotted and you have gotten passed the fact that the document is old enough to qualify and they can't prove it's a matter of National Security you might get them to release something. This something is usually covered in white out. Remember they had a decade to create false documents. If it can be found the German government years ago released the information that the chemtrail program is a fact. Makes me curious why there is a debate.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on November 30, 2010, 09:42:47 PM
A picture is worth a thousand words.

In this case, a thousand word rant.

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on November 30, 2010, 10:16:20 PM

At last, the rarely seen mythical troll salvo.

I heard about it over the years but was reluctant to accept its existence...until now.

*makes note on calendar*

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on December 01, 2010, 03:23:23 AM
Here is a good source of information. It gives you some project names you can study. http://www.chemtrail.de/html/jack_blood.html

These are small benign programs at the beginning and a picture of a real nozzle. These programs are over by now or they should be.
The spraying continues, they found other uses for atmospheric manipulation. They have wanted to use weather as a weapon for a long time.
I can't nail down a date when this started. It was long before they modified the monsoon seasons over Vietnam. You can find the details
of that on the net. It's a little off topic but, try to find the patent on lensing the atmosphere. Directing energy in free space figures heavily
 into this weather program. Nailing them down is hard. There are small pockets of development, by the time they put the whole picture together
 and get a result only a few know what has been done. In the case of Vietnam however, it is a documented fact they used weather war. They
sprayed out over the ocean to enhance the monsoon.

For the first time in history a hurricane stopped moving. Yes, I am talking about Katrina. The size and power of the weather front says that
goes beyond the natural. This year with the gulf poisoned all the hurricanes either depleted or steered north before reaching landfall. Notice
each one going North followed nearly the same path. When they show the devastation of a tornado there is a military man somewhere that wants
 the storm in his arsenal. What worries me is they have the same feelings toward Earthquakes, volcanoes, and tsunamis. When I was talking about
 behaving I was really talking about behaving.

Note: Operation Popey
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on January 25, 2011, 09:15:58 PM
I got today this email:

In four months I saw no chemtrails in China  except on pacific coastline, which would
be international airlines.

http://aircrap.org/loose-lips-sink-ships-and-747s-too/33516/

Loose Lips Sink Ships and 747s Too

Posted by Gary Richard Arnold Chemtrail Evidence,
Featured Wednesday, January 19th, 2011
Evergreen Air

Evergreen Air is a CIA front company for chemtrail operations within the US, based out of Marana Air Park near Tucson Arizona and McMinville Oregon, near Portland.

A major missing piece of a grand conspiracy has been targeted by a drunk pilot. In a small town 30 miles east of the Pacific Ocean in Oregon is the center of a major global operation. At a bar in McMinnville, Oregon, an inebriated pilot attempted to impress one of the pretty ladies with tales of his secret mission.

The pilot’s pathetic attempt to portray himself as a Sean Connery or Daniel Craig caused him to (ante up) his importance and spill the secrets of the CIA’s asset Evergreen International Aviation.

The slurred revelations confirmed suspicions that Evergreen (International Aviation) is part of the major crap dump on the planet. Chemtrails made up aluminum, barium and other ingredients contribute to respiratory ills and change the acidity of the soil.

Evergreen works from over a 100 bases and employees 4,500 people. Delford Smith privately owns the company. They admittedly “perform” for the CIA.

Evergreen was given a no contest bid that gave them all the facilities in Marana, Arizona that previously belonged to CIA’s Air America (Pinal Air Park, Arizona).

The security at the Pinal site is said to be as severe as that of  Area 51. It is run as a military base where one lost pilot got an armed escort immediately off the operational base. The 10 year pilot said it was nothing like anything he has ever seen.

Evergreen International Aviation brags of their planes that have 7 times the capacity of other fire fighters. One can carry 20,000 galleons. Firefighting … Right … and next we will be told the chem trails are to prevent global warming as millions more are advancing to an early death.

Evergreen International Aviation has exemptions from the law that are advertised on their web site. They can fly anywhere and not stay on a designated route. Has CFR members paved the way? People like Philip Lader and John Wheeler III … they were in a position to do just that.

Evergreen’s public relations (propaganda) spokesman is handled by WPP run by Council on Foreign Relations member Philip Lader. He worked under the present head of the CIA … Leon Panetta as White House deputy of staff under Bill Clinton.

Philip Lader is an “inside” authority on international affairs and business. He is the non-executive Chairman of WPP Group, Senior Adviser to Morgan Stanley International, and a board member for think-tank RAND Corporation. He is also a trustee of UC Rusal (largest aluminum company in the world)  the British Museum and St. Paul’s Cathedral Foundation. Ambassador Lader has addressed trans-Atlantic audiences from the U.N.’s General Assembly Hall to state chambers of commerce and local world affairs councils, is a member of Rockefeller’s Council on Foreign Relations.

Philip Lader (CFR) is a key player driving toward world government. In addition to running the Public Relations for Evergreen International Aviation … Lader is a director of UC Rusal, the largest Aluminum producer in the world located in Moscow, Sweden, Italy, and Australia.  Nathaniel Rothschild is a big investor.

Eugenic operation of Chemtrails has had the assistance of Mitre a non-profit Corporation that manages the Federal Aviation Administration, Homeland Security, and IRS. (1) The IRS is part of the Federal Reserve which is a major transmission belt driving the conspiracy.

Philip Lader’s fellow Council on Foreign Relations member John P Wheeler III was recently dumped into a land fill in Wilmington, Delaware. Wheeler III was a consultant to Mitre the non profit corporation with jurisdictional advice over the Federal Aviation Administration’s flight patterns.

Was John P. Wheeler III to sentimental for the killing underway?  And got murdered by the Company?

The CIA is the enforcement arm of the Council  on Foreign Relations

Mitre is conveniently located in McLean,Virginia home of the CIA.

Thanks to the drunken pilot and his loose lips … the Free People of the world can focus on the criminals who are poisoning our air and our water.

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies

We can begin by having local cities and counties adopt the Air Purity Act found at AirCrap.com?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on January 25, 2011, 11:05:03 PM
Quote
Evergreen Air is a CIA front company for chemtrail operations within the US
Do you have proof ?

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At a bar in McMinnville, Oregon, an inebriated pilot attempted to impress one of the pretty ladies with tales of his secret mission....
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The slurred revelations confirmed suspicions that Evergreen (International Aviation) is part of the major crap dump on the planet.
Is that the proof ?....a drunk guy .....really?

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Evergreen International Aviation brags of their planes that have 7 times the capacity of other fire fighters. One can carry 20,000 galleons. Firefighting … Right
It's true. Their 747 Evergreen Supertanker has been in service fighting fires since 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUEqbLVfpGc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUEqbLVfpGc)

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Eugenic operation of Chemtrails has had the assistance of Mitre a non-profit Corporation that manages the Federal Aviation Administration, Homeland Security, and IRS. (1) The IRS is part of the Federal Reserve which is a major transmission belt driving the conspiracy.
That is an attempt to connect dots that don't belong together.
...as is the rest of this now viral cut and pasted bunk.

If you look at what is said in hartiberlin's post...there is no proof of what is claimed, just assumptions, and weak causal connections that "so-and-so worked at this place, as did so-and-so, and that person invests in Aluminum, ....so there'ya go.....Conspiracy confirmed !!
The only thing "worked" is the beliefs of the reader....this is pure propaganda with not a shred of REAL evidence.

...connecting odd dots to create a brand new fictional story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAUCr9OorXU#t=4m03s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAUCr9OorXU#t=4m03s)

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 26, 2011, 12:38:14 AM

*goes to check q2's site*

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on January 26, 2011, 01:10:28 AM
Here is a NEW SITE, & A NEW VIDEO!!!

http://aircrap.org/

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/meteorology/evergreen-aviation-admits-tochemtrail-contracts-with-usaf.html

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: quarktoo on January 26, 2011, 01:24:50 AM
*goes to check q2's site*

Name noted and added. Inferring Hartman is a conspiracy "nut" is outrageous! Conspiracy nuts are people that are extra, super, overly thinky. Hartman... not so much.  ;D
Title: Re: Polish SCIENTISTS shots down CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Doctor No on February 02, 2011, 11:12:10 PM
Polish scientists makes order with chemtrails makers.      When You are afraid of chemtrails we have a cure: negative tachyons cannon. It had first to be used 4y. ago against UFO^s in Wylatowo. There were they coming year/year. After my email to Dick Chenney (Whyte Hose) and some others destination, they have gone.  (I think, the Whyte Hose had a martian spy in its very personel:-() The machine we are using against all foreign military planes which fly into air space of our country. (Ist Air Force 1 auch ne militar Flugzeug,ha?;-]).  Russian President, D. A. Myedvedyev was informed of this, written, that from 19-05-2010 such actions will take place. Both mails are on: www.nsppp.bloog.pl               Price for this action is only of flight height dependant. All You have to do is to prove if this chemtrails planes are known to civilian flight control. All in all, martians we can shout;-) down.    Or it is a mistake?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on February 04, 2011, 04:02:10 PM
Click on this Link to see an article about CTs on CBS News.


http://beforeitsnews.com/story/394/953/Alert:_CBS_Outlet_Calls_for_Chemtrail_Pics--Fire_Away.html

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: casman1969 on February 04, 2011, 07:17:15 PM
I will be presenting all the evidence I have gathered from several reliable sources at this meeting. Last I checked, it will be in Fayetteville, GA at 1300 hrs.
Will give them copies of these videos as well...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815320198655156407&hl=en#

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8004881114646406827&hl=en#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VLNNwiKvlE&mode=user&search

 
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on March 28, 2011, 02:54:25 AM
Click on this link to see a NEW GREAT SITE:


http://aircrap.org/

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on March 28, 2011, 07:09:45 PM
Good point Max.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on May 31, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
Good Video at the top Stefan.

Here is a great site to learn more:


http://aircrap.org/



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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 31, 2011, 10:08:13 PM

From what I've seen and read, it would appear that the aluminum in the chemtrails serves at least 2 functions.

1.  To destroy our cognitive awareness when it accumulates in the brain.
2.  To make us into an antennae to receive signals which will allow them to be able to control our thoughts once they've jammed the connection we have with our higher power.

I've heard lots of people saying positive things about that new "chemcrap" site also.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on June 01, 2011, 01:29:06 AM
Good Points Cap-Z-Ro.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on June 01, 2011, 02:26:18 AM

So far the only effective method I've heard of that can remove the alum from our bodies, to prevent them from turning us into antenna's for their programming signals, is MMS, according to Jim Humble.

Regards...

 
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on June 01, 2011, 09:43:29 PM
Aluminum clogging the arteries and Barium raising the blood pressure. Hasn't anyone wondered why the projections for increase in Heart disease and Diabetes and respiratory disease is expected to go off the charts? This could be most of the problem. That and soil going alkaline to the point vegetation is dying. How is the population of wildlife in your area?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on June 13, 2011, 03:15:34 PM
I posted recently 2 more videos from my balcony
to my youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/overunitydotcom#g/u


Also now in Germany the lawyer Storr
has now applied to get this case into the courts in Germany.
Will be interesting to see the outcome.
For more check frontpage of my German overunity . de
domain.

http://www.overunity.de/index.php?topic=1153
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on June 13, 2011, 05:29:06 PM

Thats great to hear Stefan...its about time this thing was challenged in the courts.

Maybe after that, they will finally get around to looking into the missing kids "mystery" ?

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Freq_Band on September 22, 2011, 09:52:25 AM
hartiberlin....you read German, right ?

Do you believe the title of this thread, and the video ?

Were they talking about "chemtrails" ?...or "chaff" ????
Was the translation correct ?

see....http://contrailscience.com/germans-admit-they-used-duppel/ (http://contrailscience.com/germans-admit-they-used-duppel/)
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on September 22, 2011, 10:16:19 PM
Click on this Link to learn more:


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AjNsHU7ruhqpxv0.p_rI6HKbvZx4?p=chemtrails&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-419

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: donny on September 23, 2011, 01:41:24 AM
I recently moved from augsburg , and i tell ya.. every morning starting around 5 or 4 am , till about 10 or noon , you could count atleast 60 plus trails , side by side , spaced the same , in the shape of a grid.
every day ....
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on September 23, 2011, 02:00:49 AM
Well, Hawaii seems to recognize that it is happening. Looks like big proof to me.  Seems as though the so called reason for releasing aluminum oxide purposely is to encourage cooling of the earth.  This is the first time I have heard this.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/09/22/the-maui-clean-sky-ordinance/

Im going to look up the dangers of this if known. Supposedly the vaccination Guardasil more aluminum than anyone would want in their bodies.   Why aluminum?  Does it cause sterility?

Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on September 23, 2011, 02:28:45 AM
I would say that the aluminum is to impair the brain's function...given that high levels are found in the brain's of altimeters victims.

Regards...

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: gauschor on September 23, 2011, 09:46:54 AM
So all the people who "organised the chemtrails" want to poison themselves, their friends, families and relatives?  :P
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on September 23, 2011, 04:21:49 PM

Google John Hutchison...apply logic, and stir.

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on September 23, 2011, 04:32:48 PM
Well, Hawaii seems to recognize that it is happening. Looks like big proof to me.  Seems as though the so called reason for releasing aluminum oxide purposely is to encourage cooling of the earth.  This is the first time I have heard this.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/09/22/the-maui-clean-sky-ordinance/

Im going to look up the dangers of this if known. Supposedly the vaccination Guardasil more aluminum than anyone would want in their bodies.   Why aluminum?  Does it cause sterility?

Mags

I think they say Alzheimer.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: gauschor on September 23, 2011, 05:25:31 PM
@Cap-Z-ro:

I have not found Hutchison's inventions in context with "chemtrails". Please be precise and send a link, instead of feeding a myth.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on September 23, 2011, 11:45:57 PM
Good points.

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on October 04, 2011, 03:25:47 PM
Pilots March against Chemtrails.

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on December 27, 2011, 08:48:06 PM
New News on CTs.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: raburgeson on January 16, 2012, 04:03:48 PM
Yes they are real. I used to take pictures of them spraying. Not anymore though, now there is blanket of scum over us that can hide anything up there. We have been getting weeks of the gray blanket followed by a couple of days of blue sky that is far to light to be natural. Searches on the subject that are productive. Someone in Scandinavian countries actually took a sample of chemtrail  chemicals from an airport. Search geoengineering patents. Search chemtrail budgets. That should help some. I expect vitamin deficient people to come down with rickets and other health problems in Northeastern USA. It's that bad. They don't even get enough sun here in the summer to produce enough vitamin D.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on January 17, 2012, 12:20:55 AM
Good Points, Raburgeson,
 
That's why I wonder if solar Panels will put out maybe 50% now.
What good are solar panels if they can't see any sun anymore?
 
Thanks,
 
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on January 17, 2012, 03:39:46 PM
Crop Dusters vs ChemTrailers.
 
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on March 27, 2012, 06:11:07 AM
Today  there were again Chemtrailers in the sky flying over here in Berlin Charlottenburg.

See my new 2 Videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJr5bPwnOrk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJr5bPwnOrk)

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJLihIVLXcI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJLihIVLXcI)

and here my new
Chemtrail Playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL15E94FFE884F3A9F&feature=plcp (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL15E94FFE884F3A9F&feature=plcp)

For education of the public about all the bad Chemtrail saga....

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on April 29, 2012, 11:52:52 PM
New Chemtrails 28th of April 2012


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yTSBqcsWc


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: CompuTutor on April 30, 2012, 03:39:14 AM
I sure wish someone with money, like someone that won the lottery, and has nothing better to do with the stuff, would keep bribing people driving the "Honey Pot" trucks that remove the toilet waste (and also secretly load up the spray tanks same time) until one of them snags a sample that can be tested for chemical contents by a reputable laboritory or test facility.

We all know from (at least) three different people that have come forward, that the access point to load the tanks is in the waste-management access panel, are there any overly rich reading this that can help the rest of us out, or perhaps people in the trade that can ask a favour  ?

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on April 30, 2012, 04:45:43 AM

A group has formed and are taking the first legal action which could be the start of many, and I believe they are seeking Applicants and donations...they were at the gathering evidence stage when I first heard of them.
"Chemtrail Geoengineering Lawsuit Moves Forward as Citizens Set To Provide Evidence "


http://askmarion.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/chemtrail-geoengineering-lawsuit-moves-forward-as-citizens-set-to-provide-evidence/
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: CompuTutor on April 30, 2012, 05:53:05 AM
TY Cap for that, awareness for those of us in the US,
that someone over here is finally taking a stance is awsome.

Too bad that the main stream news collective agencies in the USA
will spend 137 BILLION dollars in daily advertising fees this year,
but wouldn't possibly consider paying a reputable firm somewhere
to tally the blood levels of americans to prove a friggin story true...
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on May 03, 2012, 01:15:36 AM
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on May 03, 2012, 04:34:17 AM
New video I recorded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmIYE2HWWm4


Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Robert on May 04, 2012, 04:26:09 AM
Governments have all gone insane...

Totally.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 04, 2012, 04:43:10 AM
" Governments have all gone insane..."



Satanic would be more accurate.

Regards...


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Robert on May 04, 2012, 02:34:50 PM

It's always the godless destroying the godly.

That's what the fight is all about.

It's never about money, race or oil, it's always about the godless imposing their godlessness on everyone.

Freedom from energy tyranny begins with getting rid of energy tyrants.
And you can't replace a failed system by another failed system, only one law can give justice.


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: WilbyInebriated on May 05, 2012, 06:24:41 AM
It's always the godless destroying the godly.
my, aren't you pretentious... it would be cute if it wasn't so asinine.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: donny on May 05, 2012, 07:20:20 AM
Hi Stefan..
I remember living in Augsburg a few years back and from 7:00 am in the morning till about noon time, I would count atleast 40 to 80 tracks in a grid pattern up in the sky's .
I too have video footage somewhere on my hard-drive , when I find it I'll upload it for ya.
Ciao.....

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on May 05, 2012, 08:39:46 PM
Hi folks, yes they are still spraying there poisons here in illinois, saw a couple yesterday while flying me kite.
I hear that these people pulling the strings have there due coming soon, arrests that apparently have been going on already and we see all the resignations of bankers, etc.
Iceland forgiving many of there fake debt mortgages.
The cause of these chemtrails is mainly monetary systems and the dependence upon money for survival for most in the world.
If people did not need money for food and what not, most of these people flying those spray planes probably would not be wasting there time knowingly or unknowingly spraying poisons and/or HARP enabling technology.
The people of the world do have some degree of responsibility for this, those that continue to jump through all the dictators hoops.
From my perspective, ignorance is the root of all evil.
Though I have compassion for all, because most have been conditioned and brainwashed from birth and the older they get, the more fearful it seems they become of the truth.
Though, that does seem to be changing, i hope.
peace love light
tyson ;)

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: CompuTutor on May 14, 2012, 04:49:41 AM
these are planes that spend time both before (loading up) on the ground,
and after flight (clearly contaminated nozzles to sample) on the ground.

Can't anyone (whom has won the lottery) bribe someone to get a sample please ?

We can speculate all we want, what is it they are spraying,
besides the aluminum detexcted en-mass at the ground level ?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on May 14, 2012, 06:41:01 PM
Today there was a pretty nice sunny sky but again the Chemtrailers
were doing there work all day long.

New evidence eye witness report video:

English Version:

http://youtu.be/ax8UpiJxNCg (http://youtu.be/ax8UpiJxNCg)


German language Version:

http://youtu.be/KRirzNngqsM (http://youtu.be/KRirzNngqsM)


The measurements about the chemicals in the fallout are here ( uin German language only...) :

http://www-sauberer-himmel.de/untersuchungen/

Please help to spread the word about Chemtrails !

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TheGooch on June 14, 2012, 07:35:25 PM
Hi All,

I live in Southern California and used to see the spraying every 2 to 3 days.  It always angered, saddened, and disgusted me.  But I just realized that I haven't seen any chemtrails for about a month now (possibly a bit longer).

I'm wondering if anyone else noticed this pattern of chemtrails where they spray for months then stop.  My worry is that they didn't stop but found a new technology to make it invisible to the people on the ground.  It's harder to prove something exists when you can't see it.

-TheGooch
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Kev on March 13, 2013, 08:43:59 AM
Today  there were again Chemtrailers in the sky flying over here in Berlin Charlottenburg.

See my new 2 Videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJr5bPwnOrk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJr5bPwnOrk)

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJLihIVLXcI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJLihIVLXcI)

and here my new
Chemtrail Playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL15E94FFE884F3A9F&feature=plcp (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL15E94FFE884F3A9F&feature=plcp)

For education of the public about all the bad Chemtrail saga....

Regards, Stefan.

I found 3 chemtrails in your first video. 
they formed an X chemtrail
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: wings on July 14, 2013, 03:29:56 PM
I found 3 chemtrails in your first video. 
they formed an X chemtrail

http://www.chronicle.su/news/snowden-uncovers-shocking-truth-behind-chemtrails/

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TEKTRON on September 08, 2013, 08:40:12 AM
Hi All,

I live in Southern California and used to see the spraying every 2 to 3 days.  It always angered, saddened, and disgusted me.  But I just realized that I haven't seen any chemtrails for about a month now (possibly a bit longer).

I'm wondering if anyone else noticed this pattern of chemtrails where they spray for months then stop.  My worry is that they didn't stop but found a new technology to make it invisible to the people on the ground.  It's harder to prove something exists when you can't see it.

-TheGooch

I live in Big Bear, California, 7000ft elevation. We have a very clear view of what they are doing.  We can see the planes with the naked eye. They didn't stop, They have become more artful in their spraying  techniques though. Spray patterns start stop start stop.  They let them spread out. They come back and touch them up later. The clouds that form look more natural this way. I have a pic on my cell from a couple of weeks ago but I can not upload it. Gooch, PM me with your cell # and I will send it to you so you can post it.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TEKTRON on September 12, 2013, 05:17:53 AM
OK, I figured out a way to get them off my phone. sorry poor quality.
The first pic is the oldest .taken last year I Think. They sprayed the whole day. Every cloud in the pic is man made.

The next one is a couple of months ago. see the start stop, start stop.

Next about 3 weeks ago. start stop, start stop...I counted about 8 passes. Each one was a little heavier spray. See it falling out from the cloud because it is so heavily sprayed.

last one was across from Bear Mountain Ski Resort. Shot through a window after sunset. 2 or 3 winters ago. Just thought it was cool. Looks like a tornado.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 12, 2013, 08:22:36 AM
Chemtrails, yes In Central Queensland, Australia. they've been doing it since 2009 at least, day and night, they seem to do it at certain times of the year and are often accompanied by a Cessna or other light plane either the day before or the same day. I hear the Cessna at night often during the winter months I guess when I hear it they are spraying or going to. I think the Cessna monitors the Chems or substances in the air nearer the ground. The one I see has a "pod" under it's belly. And when I walk into the open and film him so he can see me he flies away rather than continuing to circle.

This video shows planes in action and one has a malfunction or stops spraying then the other flies through the same air space still leaving a strong trail, the planes don't even look like real planes. First is the Cessna then the spray planes and the trails. These video's glitch at times for some reason.

These first two are mine. The first one clearly shows the drooping trails and the different stages as well as a plane in action.
I busted them doing it finally. >:( Didn't make me happy though. I'm so pissed it ridiculous.
If I could get hold of a pilot I would thrash him to within an inch of his life for poisoning me and my family and my townsfolk.

Daytime in action 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNr7WuUxnuQ

Night time trails hanging and spreading in 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=108CR24g-EA

Here i found a video of a spray plane in action and it looks like the same type
of plane I filmed but a much better shot of the plane itself.

If you go to 1:09 minutes in the video and stop on a frame with the plane in
good view the plane itself looks weird.

2011 spray plane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vazrFsI3sPg

It looks like it isn't even a real plane, almost see through. But aside from that
it is grey and looks the same as the plane I seen and this film is from the U.S.,
I am in Australia. The plane looks like a military plane painted "Air Force" grey
or off blue - blue grey however you might describe it. It is not a civilian or
commercial plane. No way. Civilian planes don't fly in very loose formation and
do not turn around and come back to the east a bit later then turn around
and do it again. No Commercial or civilian planes I watch leave any persistent
trails and only rarely leave ordinary contrails for a short distance behind.

Below is a side by side comparison of a Spray plane and a regular plane
leaving a normal contrail. Another video from an Aussie.

It's obvious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZSRgCv9cs4

P.S. Here's another video showing the medium-high altitude spray planes accompanied by a light plane.
The light planes I think are monitoring the air for effect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJZ0gjmeqLo

The Chemical warfare is on us all, world wide. And it's toxic stuff. What human with a brain would do that ?
Trying to find some photos of a strange web fall event here some years back before I knew what Chemtrails were, there suddenly appeared what looked like random spider threads all over my chainmesh fences and was highlighted by cold and dew almost frost.

Oh and Orbs can be seen using solar occlusion. Here I did a bit of an analysis on a orb video from Canada and the orb lights look like pigeons with halo's or maybe "war birds" from Star Trek hahahaha. The still at the end enhanced by thresholds looks like the classic saucer shaped UFO. But they look like migratory birds or homing pigeons with a visible compass over their heads maybe.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9sQKrraXeY

Scumbags Karma will get them.
Cheers
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on September 13, 2013, 08:54:04 PM
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: MileHigh on September 14, 2013, 07:50:21 PM
Honestly as far as I am concerned you are all collectively duping yourselves.  "Chem trails" have been around ever since planes could fly high enough to create vapour trails.  So that's probably since the 1930s.

This is a mass collective poisoning of the entire word?  What for?  Do the elite take pills to counteract the effects of the poisoning?  How many in the elite?  Five million?  Fifty million?  How do they keep a lid on this massive conspiracy?

I can't believe some of you believe this crap.  The fuel trucks that deliver fuel to the airports stop off at special poison injection centers, is that it?  Or where they refine jet fuel there are some reptilians working in the refineries and they add poison to the process?  That way the Blue Collar truck drivers that deliver the fuel are unaware?

This is nothing more than a variation of the people you see at shows like the Tesla Tech conference that want to sell you crystals that allegedly will do all sorts of beneficial things for you.  This is just "Yellow promoting" to actually give the "healing crystals" cottage industry the "fuel" it needs to sustain itself.  Saying that "crystals have healing powers" enough times by enough people over a sustained (and never ending) period of time and you will create a customer base out of nothingness for buying your nonsensical crystals.  Buy crystals because they are nice and pretty to look at, don't buy them to cure your gout.

By the same token, people in the "chem trail cottage industry" talk up "chem trails" over a sustained period of time in order to create a customer base for buying pulp books and junk DVDs.  They have continuous "free advertizing" because planes fly and create vapour trails all the time!

This is noting more than the exploitation of the marketplace.  Let's say that 1% of the population is willing to believe that chem trails exist and some unknown entities are doing it for nefarious purposes that are typically never defined.  Hell, 1% of the population is a lot of people and they all have a certain amount of discretionary income.  You want to tap into that potential revenue stream and make some money.

Yes, there are bad people in the world.  It's a statistical certainty.

The chem trail cottage industry is mature to the point that even people that are duped themselves are part of the cottage industry.  That makes some people very happy because they have "true believers" pushing the product and hence they are very credible to potentially true believer customers.  And behind all of it there are some crafty people pulling the strings.  They smartest ones might write a book every two years that takes one month of their time to prepare.  For the other 23 months they live a modest life of leisure.  They are leeches living of the gullible people that also exist, it's another statistical certainty.  Creeps living off the fat of the land.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Johan_1955 on September 14, 2013, 08:26:37 PM
milliMtrHigh,


Stop acting like a PollyParrot!!!!!!!

Why they would make patents like: 3899144


In a big company whit so many elbows in your back, why to take that risk of initiating such a idea, patent and/ or product like it! Find the list of all of them, study how its works related to Haarp / Radar.


Question: Your living in the city?


Study before your talk, start building http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bDXyv6n_rA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bDXyv6n_rA) and surprise yourself and us ONCE in your life time!


Love you, but when your hungry you act like a diva.


Regards, Johan
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on September 15, 2013, 02:01:50 AM
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: MileHigh on September 15, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
Johan_1955:

I was not parroting anyone, I composed that message all by myself.  However, it makes perfect sense that many people would agree with me.

I looked at the patent, big deal.  It's amazing the crazy connections that "chemtrail" people can make.  It's a patent for creating what would look like a condensation trail behind a plane using inert particles to make it readily visible.  It's not about dispersing chemical agents into the atmosphere, it was to make it easy to optically track planes to verify and test surface to air missiles for military research.

What about crop dusting and sky writers, the list goes on an on.   If "they" really wanted to poison the atmosphere don't you think they would be able to develop a technology to do that invisibly?  Perhaps something like a perfume atomizer?

Then you point me at some Tesla stuff and talk about HAARP?

Here is a typical scenario with respect to people that think like you.  Some guy gets up one morning.  He goes into his backyard and sees a vapour trail from a jet plane that looks like it's about 10 km away and about 2 km in altitude.  Five minutes later he goes back into the house and his wife says that she has a headache.  THERE'S YOUR PROOF FOR CHEMTRAILS!!!

The whole thing is completely ridiculous.  You did not try to address a single issue that I raised in my previous posting.  I just dipped into this thread to state my opinion and won't be a regular here at all.

MileHigh
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 16, 2013, 02:13:11 AM
Well it seems some don't see with their own eyes what others do.
I see the planes and do not complain that they make me sick or anything.

I just see that it is not normal and there is no valid reason for the effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZSRgCv9cs4

First screen capture.
Plane on the left going left is a passenger plane.
Plane on the right going right is a spray plane. It also made the long trail it is spraying next to.
Side by side comparison. No vapor trail hangs in the sky for hours. It's not water vapor alone. Simple.

Even regular folks with no penchant for conspiracy theories, think it is odd and do not think it is normal.

A contrail is a condensation trail they disappear within a matter of seconds not hang in the sky all damn day.

When some person can explain in detail how a normal regular contrail can hang in the sky and not re-vaporize, I'll stand on my head all day.

They look like rocket trails, some rocket trails have particulates ( smoke ).

If a "Jet" plane is leaving smoke trails it's crashing, putting on a show or spraying something..

Deny deny deny, seems suspicious to me. Look at this - Second screen capture.  The spray nozzles can be seen clearly. Busted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSWnXQsgOU

EDIT: Replaced last link with captioned version of same video with the nozzles marked and shown.


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on September 16, 2013, 02:41:58 AM
The chem trails are real and government has admitted to them. Some of their reasons were for reflecting the sun to help cool the earth.

Hawaii has written bills to keep the spraying away from there, and some whole countries have done the same. Im sure its not just imaginary to them.

But there will always be those here that reject these ideas. They either have no clue, or they know more than any of us and try to get people to disregard these ideas.

Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 16, 2013, 02:50:04 AM
Yes it would seem some people posting here may be on the wrong side.  ;)

No need to deny it, it's obvious.

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on September 16, 2013, 02:50:29 AM



Here is a typical scenario with respect to people that think like you.  Some guy gets up one morning.  He goes into his backyard and sees a vapour trail from a jet plane that looks like it's about 10 km away and about 2 km in altitude.  Five minutes later he goes back into the house and his wife says that she has a headache.  THERE'S YOUR PROOF FOR CHEMTRAILS!!!



Can you show a link to these 'typical' scenarios that are just like what you wrote here???
Or is that story just from your imagination and cant find a real one that is just as ridiculous? ;)

Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: MileHigh on September 16, 2013, 03:20:49 AM
Fuck you asshole I told you to not engage with me, and I mean it.

You think you're a smart ass and you want to provoke me?  Well on the other thread you were completely wrong and and fell flat on your face after your big talk, "If I see you preaching garbage, I will respond," and you showed that after all these years on the forums you still don't even understand how a transformer works.

Behaviour like yours leads to this when people aren't strong:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/bullied-12-year-fla-girl-commits-suicide-20240193 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/bullied-12-year-fla-girl-commits-suicide-20240193)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/29/bullying-allegations-probed-after-boy-15-commits-suicide-after-first-day-school/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/29/bullying-allegations-probed-after-boy-15-commits-suicide-after-first-day-school/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIHHoU3_w8U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIHHoU3_w8U)

http://www.komonews.com/news/national/Bullied-12-year-old-Fla-girl-commits-suicide-223518281.html (http://www.komonews.com/news/national/Bullied-12-year-old-Fla-girl-commits-suicide-223518281.html)

http://www.theledger.com/article/20130910/news/130919963 (http://www.theledger.com/article/20130910/news/130919963)

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/regun/636336434-bullied-teen-committed-suicide-says-coroner (http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/regun/636336434-bullied-teen-committed-suicide-says-coroner)

http://www.startribune.com/nation/223663471.html (http://www.startribune.com/nation/223663471.html)

http://www.irishmirror.ie/female/health/teenage-model-who-tried-kill-2231714 (http://www.irishmirror.ie/female/health/teenage-model-who-tried-kill-2231714)

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/alert-over-online-blackmailing-after-harassed-teenager-commits-suicide-29505453.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/alert-over-online-blackmailing-after-harassed-teenager-commits-suicide-29505453.html)

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/08/30/60760.htm (http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/08/30/60760.htm)

There is a direct link between those articles and your disgusting behaviour.  Bow your head in shame.

I will repeat it again, FUCK OFF and don't engage with me on the forum.

I can guarantee you that I won't engage with you.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 16, 2013, 03:51:51 AM
Fed ex plane in flies through a spary plane swarm = several spray planes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGTS4W4C-c

More.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZaJEMsSwM

In my humble opinion anyone who looks at the evidence and still denies any "Chemtrails" exist needs to see a special type of doctor.

Here is words from the mouth of a person in the "service".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrQPdLhhCNw

Just for the record I am no fan of Alex Jones, I think he is sus too. Just my take on him personally.

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on September 16, 2013, 03:56:42 AM
Fuck you asshole I told you to not engage with me, and I mean it.

You think you're a smart ass and you want to provoke me?  Well on the other thread you were completely wrong and and fell flat on your face after your big talk, "If I see you preaching garbage, I will respond," and you showed that after all these years on the forums you still don't even understand how a transformer works.

Behaviour like yours leads to this when people aren't strong:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/bullied-12-year-fla-girl-commits-suicide-20240193 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/bullied-12-year-fla-girl-commits-suicide-20240193)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/29/bullying-allegations-probed-after-boy-15-commits-suicide-after-first-day-school/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/29/bullying-allegations-probed-after-boy-15-commits-suicide-after-first-day-school/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIHHoU3_w8U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIHHoU3_w8U)

http://www.komonews.com/news/national/Bullied-12-year-old-Fla-girl-commits-suicide-223518281.html (http://www.komonews.com/news/national/Bullied-12-year-old-Fla-girl-commits-suicide-223518281.html)

http://www.theledger.com/article/20130910/news/130919963 (http://www.theledger.com/article/20130910/news/130919963)

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/regun/636336434-bullied-teen-committed-suicide-says-coroner (http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/regun/636336434-bullied-teen-committed-suicide-says-coroner)

http://www.startribune.com/nation/223663471.html (http://www.startribune.com/nation/223663471.html)

http://www.irishmirror.ie/female/health/teenage-model-who-tried-kill-2231714 (http://www.irishmirror.ie/female/health/teenage-model-who-tried-kill-2231714)

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/alert-over-online-blackmailing-after-harassed-teenager-commits-suicide-29505453.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/alert-over-online-blackmailing-after-harassed-teenager-commits-suicide-29505453.html)

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/08/30/60760.htm (http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/08/30/60760.htm)

There is a direct link between those articles and your disgusting behaviour.  Bow your head in shame.

I will repeat it again, FUCK OFF and don't engage with me on the forums.

I can guarantee you that I won't engage with you.


Lol, well dont kill yourself over it all, gees.

As for how I think a transformer works, well,  :P   You havnt changed my thinking on it. ;D

With all the links you just posted about regular people and you still believe the govts people are 100% straight up individuals and all is just happy happy joy joy. The way you defend them, you must be one of them or just plain lazy to open your eyes. Which one is it? My fantasy land or yours? ::)

The ideas of population reduction has been around for a long time. Bill Gates is admittedly involved, and guess who he hangs out with.  And chem trails have something to do with it. But thats only one part of it. Gmos, arsenic fluoride added to food and water. Drink lots of water, but dont swallow the toothpaste. ::) Oh, at what age should we not give children toothpaste with fluoride? Read the tube. But Walmart sells water for infants that list what ingredient???? INGREDIENT  SODIUM FLUORIDE.  But you Im sure have a very good answers to all those things. Your a smart guy. ::)

What about HPV vaccinations that in some states are given to students without parental 'notification' let alone permission. Then the recent articles of how teen pregnancies are DOWN in ALL 50 STATES!!! Idiot.  And Japanese gov has said that they do not endorse those vacs due to FERTILITY ISSUES!!!  Yet they still keep on jabbing.  My bosses daughter has issues after her 1st shot and so does the secretaries daughter.  Just coincidences heh?  Yeah.  >:(

But you wouldnt know anything about that stuff. Its just all in my imagination, right?????  ::)


I will comment where and to whom ever I please as I see fit. :P    ;)


Mags




Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 16, 2013, 04:14:54 AM
I was waiting at the doctors office and a woman had a child there recently vaccinated the child had suddenly lost use one of his feet, he was dragging it trying to walk and was forced to crawl to be safe.

I guess that happens when children are injected with substances containing mercury. Multi dose vials of vaccines can contain mercury as a preservative or adjuvant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjuvant

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Many people are also committing suicide because of all kinds of health problems that are ignored and left untreated, I was almost one, they made me out to be making things up in my head. I worked out what was wrong with me and told the doctor what to prescribe for me and I am now making a rapid recovery and am almost in remission. I feel human again. With complete denial from the medical doctors I demanded a psychological evaluation, which they do not want me to have because they know I am completely healthy in mind. So much for the damn doctors I had to research and correlate my symptoms and diagnose myself the doctors are so clueless they ask the patient what to do. It is pathetic.

The last thing we need is people denying the things that are happening that are not right and are likely causing mass health problems.

The Doctors have no idea what is wrong with a lot of people and treat them for other problems with lots of Pharma as well. Here the doctors are overwhelmed with patients and there is no time to investigate and treat people correctly.

Toughen up we have to. We must argue with doctors to get diagnosis and treatment, are treated like nut cases, yet they fear having us evaluated. Not logical.

There is a massive heath crisis looming and it is likely engineered.

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Liberty on September 16, 2013, 04:33:54 AM
Fed ex plane in flies through a spry plane swarm = several spray planes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGTS4W4C-c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGTS4W4C-c)

More.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZaJEMsSwM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZaJEMsSwM)

In my humble opinion anyone who looks at the evidence and still denies any "Chemtrails" exist needs to see a special type of doctor.

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I think that this aerial spraying has been going on in the US since about the late 1980's.  I think that the states are paid from the federal government, to allow such flights.  It has to do with "weather control".   I've seen them spray an X in the sky to mark the coordinates where to spray.  They (the UN planes?; they are usually white jets) usually spray the day before a rain/storm front comes through, which makes white "skimmy" thin cloud cover.  There is also high altitude flights that put a light spray covering across the sky, which makes the sky a lighter color of blue.  I think it is supposed to reflect sun light, but what it ends up doing is causing heat to be trapped in the earth, that would naturally escape at night.  In my opinion, I think it contributes greatly to "global warming" the most and may be the only real reason for global warming, a redistribution of heat in the earth. 

It's amazing to me how many people don't even bother to look up in the sky and take notice.  I used to think that these were just "contrails".  But I looked at a jet that emitted just a normal contrail, and then saw a sprayer that put out a white stream, that in the sunlight had a rainbow color, (with a heavy spray), which may indicate oil content in the spray.  The spray did not disappear from the sky, but it spread out and remained.  But the normal "contrail" disappeared as normally expected.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 16, 2013, 04:37:47 AM
This woman see something and does not recognize it as a torus or vortex. It happens at 35 seconds and again at 44 seconds and at one minute, just to point out three time frames.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYz-WZsn0M

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Also when I distill my FILTERED rain water (filtered with a 5 micron particulate filter). When I pull the distiller up before all the water is processed the remaining water somehow develops short thick threads of white stuff. I'll try to pull up the next run and photograph it and keep a sample.

I recommend filtering and distilling all drinking water, reverse osmosis filters might be viable as well. Now that I do distill my filtered rain water I can drink lots of it and it tastes like real old fashioned rain water. Collecting rain water from a clean roof should not even require filtering. We ought to be able to drink from streams and creeks.

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Here is radio testimony from a Doctor about Chemtrails and Vaccines. EDIT: I did not realize they were selling stuff at the end of this video. I would not buy anything personally. That gives your address and name away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on September 16, 2013, 05:29:42 AM
This woman see something and does not recognize it as a torus or vortex. It happens at 35 seconds and again at 44 seconds and at one minute, just to point out three time frames. EDIT: I did not realize they were selling stuff at the end of this video. I would not buy anything personally. That gives your address and name away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYz-WZsn0M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYz-WZsn0M)

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Also when I distill my FILTERED rain water (filtered with a 5 micron particulate filter). When I pull the distiller up before all the water is processed the remaining water somehow develops short thick threads of white stuff. I'll try to pull up the next run and photograph it and keep a sample.

I recommend filtering and distilling all drinking water, reverse osmosis filters might be viable as well. Now that I do distill my filtered rain water I can drink lots of it and it tastes like real old fashioned rain water. Collecting rain water from a clean roof should not even require filtering. We ought to be able to drink from streams and creeks.

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Here is radio testimony from a Doctor about Chemtrails and Vaccines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0)

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I read an article last year about a guy that had gotten permits to put ponds on his land. He got the permits, dug the ponds and they filled with rain water. The city somehow revoked the permits and told him to fill them back in. They said the rain water was not his to catch. :o :o   I believe it was in washington state or oregon.  Yep, wonderful people running this great land of the free. Luckily some of us are still 'brave'.  ;)

Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: MileHigh on September 16, 2013, 06:28:42 AM
Farmhand:

I watched several of your video links and I am not impressed at all.  We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.  Plus like I said, I just left my comments but I am truly not interested in the thread at all so this will be my last posting.

The clip where you sate, "This woman sees something and does not recognize it as a torus or vortex," I am incredibly surprised that you would say that or even link to a clip like that.  The woman is recording a reflection off of the inside of the window in her car.  It's that bad.

I did watch your clips like I stated.  So for fun I did a YouTube search so here is my contribution to "The Battle of the Clips."

MileHigh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqG6YV09fY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqG6YV09fY)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27QakO6VJc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27QakO6VJc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4kkCijEYpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4kkCijEYpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y97OK6qEIz0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y97OK6qEIz0)
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 16, 2013, 06:48:26 AM
A few Natural and legal (so far) substances that I found helped me to detoxify. And the secret to my recovery was simple. Mycoplasma infection. Cause and effect show me that.
Treatment is with one of the tetracyclines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycoplasma

1) The leaf infusion and other products from the Star Apple Tree [ Chrysophyllum cainito ] ( mainly leaf infusion or tea and bark decoctions ).  Yes Witchcraft. hahahaha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysophyllum_cainito

2) Bee gathered Pollen. (For vitality and general vigor is why I eat that )

3) Yeast extracts. Vegemite or even I now as well take small amounts of dried dead yeast left from legal alcohol production.

4) Sunshine or Vitamin D. Sunshine should be avoided while taking the Minocycline mentioned below so then vitamin D supplementation may be necessary.

4) Positive mental attitude.

As well : For those who feel diseased or feel as though have have Chronic Fatigue problems, I would consider looking into asking the doctor for a course of Minocycline or Doxycyxline anti-biotics, which are prescribed for acne, they are long course anti-biotics semi synthetic and can cross the blood brain barrier. When the doctor asked me what he could do I asked him to prescribe a course of those and explained why, he complied and after only less than half the course I feel like a new man. I was improving with the natural supplements slowly but surely, I could maybe do better in the natural side when I finish the anti-biotic course, During anti biotic treatment I take pro-biotics out of time phase with the anti-biotics as calcium and iron can reduce the Minocycline uptake or effectiveness. I am taking 50 mg twice a day. Some doctors recommend 100 mg twice a day.

Extra notes: I can tell the Star apple Leaf Infusion or (Tea) has a profound effect as it caused my ears to ring after the first two drinks and my hearing improved. It also has a anti-inflammatory effect and acts like a diuretic. as well as helps to regulate blood sugar, mine is very stable now and my vitals are quite good as compared to a while ago and other people.

Check for allergic reaction when taking Bee gathered raw pollen.

Stay informed folks and watch for false prophets.

Cheers and better health to all.


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 16, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
No probs MileHigh, In the end it matters not what we think. What matters is what is happening. The reality of things at present is not changed by my or your opinion or the video's we link. However the future may be.

Better to be cautious, observe and ask questions than to be oblivious and take what comes.

We can argue all we like about this or that but the fact remains, people in authority knowingly harm us and do not stop.

Here are some things to consider.

Should any children be injected with mercury. Just because it was banned in the U.S. and some other countries because it was so dangerous and had already caused so much damage, does not mean it is not still injected into children. The same companies make it and sell it with full knowledge of it's effects.

http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/policy-and-issues/vaccines-spiked-with-harmful-adjuvants-administered-to-children/article972538.ece

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The trials conducted on at least 836 children at the Chacha Nehru Bal Chikitsalaya, the paediatric division of the Maharaja Yashwantrao Hospital, were spiked with adjuvants that contain high levels of mercury, aluminium, detergents, pesticides and human carcinogens.

Banned by FDA

An adjuvant is used to spike a vaccine to boost its impact and amplify the body's immune response to the vaccine.

Two of the adjuvants used, Thimerosal and Squalene, are banned by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) department of the United States. In India, there is still no protocol regarding the use of adjuvants.


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Are the new Adjuvants any less harmful.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/01/27/mercury-in-vaccines-was-replaced-with-something-even-more-toxic.aspx

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The short, eye-opening eBook linked below is titled Aluminum in Vaccines -- a Neurological Gamble, by Neil Miller, director of the Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute. It documents the hazards associated with aluminum-laden vaccines. Children are receiving high concentrations of aluminum in their shots. This well-documented neurotoxin may be more dangerous than mercury.

Vaccines containing high concentrations of neurotoxic aluminum were added to the child immunization schedule when several vaccines containing mercury were removed. Two-month old babies now receive 1,225 mcg of aluminum from their vaccines -- 50 times higher than safety levels! Although the FDA, CDC and World Health Organization are aware of the dangers, they expect parents to play Russian roulette with their children.

Years in the paragraph below could mean as few as two.

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When mercury was removed from many vaccines (except the flu vaccine) years ago, it was under the false guise that finally vaccines were now safe. What health agencies did not want you to know is that there are many other toxic additives still in vaccines, and one of them is aluminum.

Now I see absolutely no reason to believe our governments and our health workers have not already harmed us and our children, why not other departments, it seems to be purposeful to me. Sounds like a case of pull out the knife and stuff in a grenade. It's sick.

I refuse to trust any of them. And so do millions of others, thousands more every day. It's an exponential effect. A wave is building I would not want to get in it's way.

Oh and by the way that woman is not the only person to see those things, some have recorded them drop and form cones then disappear again. Could not be bothered to look for or link it though. I'm not here to prove anything just to present stuff. I don't do detailed checks. If I am wrong so be it I won't beat myself up over it and it does not change the spray planes I see with my own eyes. Who care what anyone else thinks we should think for ourselves.

I did check a couple of video's claiming UFO's and one I decided was a power pole transformer leaking and the other I decided on homing pigeons with halo's. I'm not so easily fooled. I will look at that video again though. I'll take your observation on board, since I did post it. I have no problem making retractions.

Cheers

P.S. Yes in my opinion the lady sees a real phenomena man made or not is not my call, but it resembles a downward moving "smoke ring" type torus. In my opinion. I see no movement to show a reflection movement and I can see the cloud rolling "like a smoke ring" I think.

I'll down load the video and look closer later, I have a run to still. Gotta go.

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Johan_1955 on September 16, 2013, 08:05:39 PM
Farmhand, many thanks for the links about metal in medication!


ChemShit: Even this they are doing:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/nasa-admits-trimethylaluminum-rocket-dumps-in-ionosphere/


The non readers we can't help!


Regards, Johan
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 17, 2013, 12:39:16 AM
MileHigh, your broadside of links to begin with is a little dismissive, At least I provided descriptions with the links and have some of my own, where's your passion for your propaganda. One thing with propaganda is that to be effective it needs to be believable. I think my propaganda is better.  ;D And propaganda it is. Propaganda is not a dirty word.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

1) The first link states that we all think it is about population control only, not even true, then goes on to say it's the hi bypass jet engines. Well to my way of thinking the bypass air is for cooling and noise, the bypass air does not seem to be compressed and would be heated by the engine when it helps to cool it, I fail to see how it could freeze the vapor more than a regular engine.

2) The second link I consider bunk as well because the fedex video shows these planes are not known to be there by air traffic controllers, transponders off. No one I know of thinks passenger planes do it and if he says he can see 50 miles behind the plane while he's in it he's simply lying. No one thinks all the planes are owned by the military either.
And they do not fly through the chemtrails directly. The two 747's the president uses do not belong to him that is a lie, they belong to the U.S. people, the taxpayers, and he is not big or powerful he is a public servant, the people hold the power they just don't use it.

3) The third one I didn't watch because it is made by the same liar that made the second video.

4) He is using Alex Jones testimony, I don't trust alex and I think he is part of the problem, I think he a wolf in sheep's clothing. Chemtrails don't just last for hours they transform to be cloud like and remain for however long it takes the stuff to come down to the ground. In other words they do not re-vaporize at all. They have likely done the air flow test since planes have been in existence they do that as well but they are not the chemtrails we are concerned about. They are air flow tests or studies. Footage could also be faked. Also planes not burning the fuel well could leave a chem trail which is a kind of chemtrail not intended, being due to the unburned fuel. Lots of people wrongly identify chemtrail activity or after effects which adds confusion. Towards the end he's just showing a bunch of normal clouds and claiming they were claimed to be chem clouds by someone. Pathetic.

Herringbone clouds are perfectly normal and he claims they are claimed to be chemtrails, untrue. So are most of the other clouds he showed, clouds starting to or dropping rain can appear to be "like a Chem cloud" but are normal as well. These people presuppose we are all stupid and don't look at clouds and have not lived or observed before the 1990's.
http://www.sky-chaser.com/schcloud.htm

They also ignore the planes with spray nozzles of course.

Cheers


Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Farmhand on September 17, 2013, 01:02:59 AM
In response to the video where the woman claims to see some strange phenomena a few post back in one of mine, and I say its a torus or a vortex, below is a clip of another one. I don't necessarily think it's Haarp and others can not help what people label their video's or what they say, I'm more interested in the video footage not the commentary or the title.

Cone forms and disappears in clouds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNahvVa_fSI

Maybe its just a natural thing I do not know. But it corroborates that she may well have seen this same kind of thing. All I said was I believe she seen a real thin happen, I did not attribute it to anything in particular.

Cheers

P.S. A semi related video. Possibly one reason for the spraying of the metalic substanes, Weather modification. I do not particulary agree with the commentary either, again.
Basically she is saying she is not afraid. Good on her. She has passion. Bless her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isG6V7RcF7E

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on March 24, 2014, 02:06:18 PM
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: MarkE on March 25, 2014, 02:52:49 AM
MileHigh, your broadside of links to begin with is a little dismissive, At least I provided descriptions with the links and have some of my own, where's your passion for your propaganda. One thing with propaganda is that to be effective it needs to be believable. I think my propaganda is better.  ;D And propaganda it is. Propaganda is not a dirty word.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

1) The first link states that we all think it is about population control only, not even true, then goes on to say it's the hi bypass jet engines. Well to my way of thinking the bypass air is for cooling and noise, the bypass air does not seem to be compressed and would be heated by the engine when it helps to cool it, I fail to see how it could freeze the vapor more than a regular engine.
Well, you can figure the part about the jet engines out by reading up on the history of jet engines.  The goal of a jet engine is to generate as much thrust as possible for the lowest fuel consumption and in the case of passenger aircraft: noise.  The source of thrust is the reaction force of the mass that the engine ejects.  There are two components to that mass: spent fuel products, primarily: CO2 and H20 and air.  If you want more ejection mass without increasing fuel consumption, then your only option is to draw in more air.  Air at high altitudes is rarified stuff, so to get a lot of mass each second, the engine has to inhale very large volumes. 

That is what turbofan engines, particularly high bypass turbofan engines do.  They breath huge amounts of air.  Vapor in that air flow condenses behind the engine creating these stratospheric fog machines if you will.  More vapor freezes because the engines breath much more air.  Tack on the fact that the number of flights jumped by over 50% from 1980 - 1995 (I can't easily get more current data right now) and there are a lot more of those big fog machines in the sky. 

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on March 25, 2014, 03:58:03 AM
http://www.naturalnews.com/022838_chemtrails_military_health.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/040652_weather_weapons_chemtrails_haarp.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/037451_chemtrails_conspiracy_theory_geoengineering.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/034906_Bill_Gates_geo-engineering_chemtrails.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/033691_chemtrails_Maui.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/043486_chemtrails_conspiracy_theories_geoengineering.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/041201_chemtrails_nanoparticles_degenerative_disease.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/036583_geoengineering_Bill_Gates_global_warming.html



It used to be only a conspiracy theory that at least something is being sprayed.  Its been going on for a while. Once news of this became more wide spread, the gov admitted it, but said it was for reflecting the heat of the sun to reduce global warming.  So, there should be no discussion as to 'if' it is real, but 'what' and 'why' should be more concerning. ;)

Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on March 25, 2014, 04:02:21 AM
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Priceless   ;)

Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on March 25, 2014, 04:17:41 AM


It used to be only a conspiracy theory that at least something is being sprayed.  Its been going on for a while. Once news of this became more wide spread, the gov admitted it, but said it was for reflecting the heat of the sun to reduce global warming.  So, there should be no discussion as to 'if' it is real, but 'what' and 'why' should be more concerning. ;)

Mags

And if you think about it, if they admit it and say it is to help cool the earth, how much spraying would one think it might take to accomplish such a task?   I would say A LOT.

Stories about Fluoride being a neurotoxin have been abundant.  Now a recent story is that if fluoride and aluminum has very damaging affects on the brain..

Hmm, fluoridate the water supply, add to tooth paste(read a story of putting it in school lunch milk in Europe), then spray aluminum particulates in the air.   ??? ???

http://www.naturalnews.com/041201_chemtrails_nanoparticles_degenerative_disease.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/044366_fluoride_aluminum_brain_damage.html

I personally have not seen any articles on the possible connection to fluoride and aluminum from chemtrails. I have come up with that theory myself.  ;D Pretty crazy stuff. :o

Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: MarkE on March 25, 2014, 04:33:46 AM
And if you think about it, if they admit it and say it is to help cool the earth, how much spraying would one think it might take to accomplish such a task?   I would say A LOT.

Stories about Fluoride being a neurotoxin have been abundant.  Now a recent story is that if fluoride and aluminum has very damaging affects on the brain..

Hmm, fluoridate the water supply, add to tooth paste(read a story of putting it in school lunch milk in Europe), then spray aluminum particulates in the air.   ??? ???

http://www.naturalnews.com/041201_chemtrails_nanoparticles_degenerative_disease.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/044366_fluoride_aluminum_brain_damage.html

I personally have not seen any articles on the possible connection to fluoride and aluminum from chemtrails. I have come up with that theory myself.  ;D Pretty crazy stuff. :o

Mags
How would the perpetrators of such a plot avoid the global contamination?  Can we locate the conspirators as the people who walk around in fashionable hazmat garb from Brooks Brothers?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on March 25, 2014, 05:38:01 AM
How would the perpetrators of such a plot avoid the global contamination?  Can we locate the conspirators as the people who walk around in fashionable hazmat garb from Brooks Brothers?

Ive thought of that. It is a good question. 

Lets say that 'people in the know', like say the Pres, and his familly, Bill Gates, etc. etc., do not intake fluoride? Not in their water, not in their tooth paste. Then there is no big chem combination risk there.

Maybe they have something they take, pills, etc. that reduce or eliminate the aluminum, etc.  Look up metals detoxification. Strawberries n peanut butter anyone??  Helps to remove mercury. ;) Clearly 'they' have better medical tech that we the people dont have access to. Is that hard to imagine?

Cure for aids.  Well, when a cop gets blood on him/her, they go directly to the hospital and they get an injection that eradicates the aids virus in their system. They get temporarily sick from the shot, but no aids/hiv. Have many cop friends. They all know about it. Yet people die from aids every day.  Think they dont know how to get rid of cancer in safer ways than what you or I know?  Think again.  ;)

And maybe the ones behind it all, have many gov officials convinced that all will be safe for them. Maybe not.  A gullible bunch when it comes to tech. They believe their experts. Like people from Monsanto in the FDA.  ::) Look at the health care website. Garbage for over 600 million( probably much more now, they aint sayin) . A couple of wizkids made a comparable site in less than a week, that actually worked.  ;)

But then again, I think they know more than we can imagine.  Is that so hard to realize?

Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: marathonman on March 25, 2014, 06:22:46 AM
sometimes after being processed into sodium Silicofluoride.[5] In this application, the Hexafluorosilicic acid converts to the fluoride ion (F-), which is the active agent for the protection of teeth. (BULL SHIT!) it destroys teeth and more.
Do not believe a word that comes out of their mouths. every one of these chemicals are very dangerous to the very life and health of every human on this earth. hexafluorosilicic acid is converted to aluminium fluoride and cryolite. and again is deadly to humans and all animals, plants and life ect.... they will tell you it is not but every single bit of information has been edited to the extreme payed for in billions of bribe money. SO YES!  hexafluorosilicic acid bonds to Aluminum in the body.

Alcoa Aluminum company Bribed politicians  in the early 1900 because of the super high cost of disposal (Highly Toxic ALUMINUM BYPRODUCT) to dispose it in the water through humans. this is a historical fact that can not be disputed on both counts. the irreversible side effect are neurological damage to the brain and other organs are enormous. basically our Governments are dumming down the world to the point of invalides incapable of very basic motor control and thought or even reproduction in large amounts . study after study has come to the same conclusion that FLUORIDE is deadly. why do you think it is the main ingredient in RAT POISON (HELLO !). it destroys your teeth and makes the turn brown and crooked even at small minute quantities (as in Parts per million).
So basically i say that any F-in MORON that desputes this can kiss my ten year research in Fluoride A$$.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: MarkE on March 25, 2014, 08:19:16 AM
Ive thought of that. It is a good question. 

Lets say that 'people in the know', like say the Pres, and his familly, Bill Gates, etc. etc., do not intake fluoride? Not in their water, not in their tooth paste. Then there is no big chem combination risk there.

Maybe they have something they take, pills, etc. that reduce or eliminate the aluminum, etc.  Look up metals detoxification. Strawberries n peanut butter anyone??  Helps to remove mercury. ;) Clearly 'they' have better medical tech that we the people dont have access to. Is that hard to imagine?

Cure for aids.  Well, when a cop gets blood on him/her, they go directly to the hospital and they get an injection that eradicates the aids virus in their system. They get temporarily sick from the shot, but no aids/hiv. Have many cop friends. They all know about it. Yet people die from aids every day.  Think they dont know how to get rid of cancer in safer ways than what you or I know?  Think again.  ;)

And maybe the ones behind it all, have many gov officials convinced that all will be safe for them. Maybe not.  A gullible bunch when it comes to tech. They believe their experts. Like people from Monsanto in the FDA.  ::) Look at the health care website. Garbage for over 600 million( probably much more now, they aint sayin) . A couple of wizkids made a comparable site in less than a week, that actually worked.  ;)

But then again, I think they know more than we can imagine.  Is that so hard to realize?

Mags
If I were a super villain intent on offing a bunch of the population I'd try to come up with something that didn't put me at risk.  To carry that further, if I wanted to pare down the population, I wouldn't want to do that real fast because it would be very disruptive.  The gradual way to trim the earth's population by a little or a lot is to control the birth rate.  That could be done by reducing  drive, reducing fertility, taking control of the Catholic church to make it support condoms, secretly introduce GMOs that cut fertility into South and East Asia crops.  Stratospheric foggers would be low on my list.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on March 25, 2014, 02:04:02 PM
Look at how the Tops of the Trees are dying.
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on March 25, 2014, 11:59:16 PM
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: SeaMonkey on March 26, 2014, 09:58:03 PM
It is refreshing to see renewed and revived
interest in geo-engineering, chemtrails,
gmos and the various other methods of
population reduction.

Interesting chemtrail patterns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NT1xjMMAnEU)

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on March 27, 2014, 12:04:27 AM
It is refreshing to see renewed and revived
interest in geo-engineering, chemtrails,
gmos and the various other methods of
population reduction.

Interesting chemtrail patterns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NT1xjMMAnEU)

Doesnt look like a rehearsal for an air show. ;) Nice vid.  There was a YT vid that was taken from a plane trailing close to another that was spraying. You could clearly see the streams from the jet engines, but then what looked like a swimming pool draining out of a 1ft hole(just an example). On for a bit, then off for a bit.  Its like there is no way that much could come out of a toiletry dump from 100 planes. lol

There were articles some time back that had shown testing of land and waters around areas that were known to be sprayed heavily, and they found aluminum, boron, even human blood cells that were modified some way.  Would have to look it up for more details. If I remember correctly, the particulates of metals were so small, they could remain in the air for days or longer before hitting the ground, except for rainy days where rain brings it down a lot quicker.

Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Dog-One on April 28, 2014, 04:28:59 AM
If I were a super villain ...

IF?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: MarkE on April 28, 2014, 05:05:17 AM
IF?
There isn't a person alive who has testified against me in open court.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: gravityblock on April 28, 2014, 06:20:53 AM
If I were a super villain intent on offing a bunch of the population I'd try to come up with something that didn't put me at risk.  To carry that further, if I wanted to pare down the population, I wouldn't want to do that real fast because it would be very disruptive.  The gradual way to trim the earth's population by a little or a lot is to control the birth rate.  That could be done by reducing  drive, reducing fertility, taking control of the Catholic church to make it support condoms, secretly introduce GMOs that cut fertility into South and East Asia crops.  Stratospheric foggers would be low on my list.

They're not at risk because they have a bloodline with different DNA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCt9ugVazu0).

Gravock
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: gravityblock on April 28, 2014, 07:08:51 AM
There isn't a person alive who has testified against me in open court.

There's no need for any person alive to testify against you, for you'll convict yourself in an open court by your own words.

Gravock
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: gravityblock on April 28, 2014, 08:01:46 AM
Local News Reporter in Medford, Oregon tells us the truth about chemtrails! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16UfHe35DGc) (video)

Military Chaff (chemtrails) Reported on Radar by Local News (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev1Z67pXCxA) (video)

Mainstream News Media Report:  Government Admits Chemtrails/Toxins Sprayed On It's Citizens (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT3Xd75FbEg) (video)

Gravock


 
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on April 29, 2014, 02:09:21 PM
Pilot forgot to turn the Chemtrail Sprayers off before landing.  LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM)

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on April 30, 2014, 02:53:38 PM
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: gravityblock on May 01, 2014, 02:21:58 AM
Pilot forgot to turn the Chemtrail Sprayers off before landing.  LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM)

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This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Jimmy Herrera, as stated on youtube.  However, in the snapshot of the video you posted, it says "TurnerRadioNetwork.com", so I went to this site and noticed how it has been seized by the United States District Court.  The site provides facts that the mass-media won't cover and is about free speech.  Here is the link to the full article, titled, "BUSTED! Pilot Forgets To Turn Off CHEMTRAILS Before Landing (http://turnerradionetwork.com/news/455-mjt)."

Gravock
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TEKTRON on May 01, 2014, 04:17:57 AM
http://worldtruth.tv/busted-pilot-forgets-to-turn-off-chemtrails-while-landing/ (http://worldtruth.tv/busted-pilot-forgets-to-turn-off-chemtrails-while-landing/)
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Johan_1955 on May 28, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Dear NickName,

Relax, only the first and the last page to read.

This beside the used Emulsified fuel, from: https://sites.google.com/site/braxpeace2/waterinfuelblends (https://sites.google.com/site/braxpeace2/waterinfuelblends)

In time the true is always coming out! ;-))

Regards, Johan
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: hartiberlin on May 29, 2014, 02:11:29 AM
Here is a German plane engineer,
who came forward on one of the recent German Peace demonstrations
who had the job to modify planes for the spraying equipment
and documented it and offered the Green Party in Germany the affidafits about  it,
and then he was expelled from his job and can no longer find a job in the
aviation industry.

He said that they had to wear protective suits, when the highly poisoneous spraying fluid
was filled into the tanks. He said the fluid contains Aluminiumsulfide and Barium oxide and nano polymer complexes..

So you see, we have new a proof !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr5-8f8wiVc

Regards, Stefan.



Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: LibreEnergia on May 29, 2014, 02:31:46 AM
http://worldtruth.tv/busted-pilot-forgets-to-turn-off-chemtrails-while-landing/ (http://worldtruth.tv/busted-pilot-forgets-to-turn-off-chemtrails-while-landing/)

How can someone be fooled by something as easily explainable as this. The effect you see is simply condensation caused by wing tip vortices in saturated air.

In this case they occur at the tip of the flaps while landing rather than the end of the wings.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: TechStuf on May 29, 2014, 04:04:45 AM

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How can someone be fooled by something as easily explainable as this.

I know, right? 

People have been fooled by MUCH more easily explained things....

Take yourself for instance, L.E....You fool yourself with your own foolishness each and every day.

Much less forgivable at the end of the day.

http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html

But hey, it may not be your fault entirely.....You are what you eat.

Drink.

And Breathe.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: MileHigh on May 29, 2014, 05:11:45 AM
But would you buy a used car from guys that rent out pixels to these guys?
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: LibreEnergia on May 29, 2014, 05:38:13 AM
I know, right? 

People have been fooled by MUCH more easily explained things....

Take yourself for instance, L.E....You fool yourself with your own foolishness each and every day.

Much less forgivable at the end of the day.

http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html

But hey, it may not be your fault entirely.....You are what you eat.

Drink.

And Breathe.

Don't make me laugh.. Offering Rense.com as proof of anything is like asking me to me to believe the ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic.

Yes, 'strange clouds' do appear from time to time, but all of them have entirely natural explanations.

I've been on many commercial airline flights and watched these 'chemtrails' appear when the flaps are deployed for landing in moist air.

You'd be an idiot to believe the cause is anything but the tip vortices causing a condition where the moisture is suddenly condensed and forms a visible trail.
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Johan_1955 on June 18, 2014, 04:33:53 PM
Yes, 'strange clouds' do appear from time to time, but all of them have entirely natural explanations.


Nice one above: When you believe in Darwin, than it could be natural explanations from money Science!?


Science: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0waMBY3qEA4


Medication: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKfbkeQyw84


Engine On / Off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0xC6h8mcWY


Regards, Johan
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: centraflow on June 18, 2014, 08:05:50 PM
Here is a German plane engineer,
who came forward on one of the recent German Peace demonstrations
who had the job to modify planes for the spraying equipment
and documented it and offered the Green Party in Germany the affidafits about  it,
and then he was expelled from his job and can no longer find a job in the
aviation industry.

He said that they had to wear protective suits, when the highly poisoneous spraying fluid
was filled into the tanks. He said the fluid contains Aluminiumsulfide and Barium oxide and nano polymer complexes..

So you see, we have new a proof !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr5-8f8wiVc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr5-8f8wiVc)

Regards, Stefan.


Stefan, that video has been taken down rather quick, does anyone have a copy?


regards


Mike 8)
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: SeaMonkey on June 18, 2014, 09:56:32 PM
You can see it here, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SadtYWRTa-w&feature=player_embedded)

Source. (http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2014/05/aerospace-engineer-i-installed-spraying-equipment-on-airplanes-2559888.html)

Related. (https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-german-aeronautics-engineer-chemtrail-whistleblower.3715/)
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: gravityblock on June 23, 2014, 05:15:59 AM
Documents Reveal “Chemtrails” Originated at Department of Defense (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/10/30/documents-reveal-chemtrails-originated-at-department-of-defense/)

Chemtrails Chemistry Manual USAF Academy (http://saive.com/911/DOCS/Chemtrails_Chemistry_Manual_USAF_Academy_1990-OPT.pdf)

Gravock
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on November 07, 2014, 03:36:26 PM
Be sure your VOLUME is Turned UP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vca7c04r95I&index=1&list=UUfMGL-QXeOpT3hHcF5u-wxg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vca7c04r95I&index=1&list=UUfMGL-QXeOpT3hHcF5u-wxg)

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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: SeaMonkey on December 05, 2014, 09:17:52 PM
Cloud seeding experiments (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245890) (today known as persistent
contrails or chemtrails) have been in progress for a very
long time.

Early seeding experiments conducted to produce rainfall
did utilize sulfuric acid as the nucleating agent as was the
above case in 1949.  The State Chemist covered up the
incident very conveniently by blaming the acid rain on
'soft coal.'

The deception is an ever-present characteristic of 'government
programs.'

Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: Magluvin on February 24, 2015, 03:32:00 AM
https://www.intellihub.com/nas-committee-admits-in-a-roundabout-way-that-chemtrail-programs-exist/


"According to new reports released by a 22-member committee from the National Academy of Sciences (http://nas-sites.org/americasclimatechoices/other-reports-on-climate-change/2015-2/climate-intervention-reports/), “full deployment” of geoengineering aerosols to mitigate the earth’s climate and manage solar radiation intake is far too risky and needs to be restricted to “small-scale experiments”, somewhat acknowledging that programs are currently taking place, without going all-the-way. It’s a form of conditioning. They [the powers-that-be] are conditioning our minds to accept what the subconscious has already seen for years. You see — the experiments have taken place for decades and still continue to this day virtually everywhere you look. However it’s up to you to decipher what the eyes are actually seeing. It’s up to you to process the information forthcoming to your mind."


Mags
Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: b0rg13 on February 23, 2016, 10:25:28 AM
hi..... i am curious which german scientist proved chem trails?....and why the topic name was changed ?....  :o

...in fact the videos in my first post have also changed...  :o

i had some more important info to add and share, but im not sure i can do that if the info is being....changed., sound fair?.  ::)

this is not how i remember starting this topic at all...   ???




Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: FatBird on March 08, 2016, 08:19:27 PM
Close Up Video of Chemtrail Plane Spraying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLwfFtDFZDpwulG0PJ9IID0iypsRXDSa1E&v=iK9nVR9H34g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLwfFtDFZDpwulG0PJ9IID0iypsRXDSa1E&v=iK9nVR9H34g)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vca7c04r95I&index=1&list=UUfMGL-QXeOpT3hHcF5u-wxg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vca7c04r95I&index=1&list=UUfMGL-QXeOpT3hHcF5u-wxg)[/font][/size]
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Title: Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
Post by: daniel73 on December 03, 2018, 11:25:57 AM
When a new spray occurs, all the good people should do something. United people are a force of that those who do these things are afraid. Only unites we can do something. What could be done? Every man could file a complaint at the police indicating the time and place where the air was polluted with photographs. It would seem insignificant, but at the level of the department, the area, the country, ... there is a volume of work that needs to be solved and how this can not be done somewhere up there is reported. The multiplication of unresolved reports will involve other institutions of the state (environment) and then political. I have noticed that they act on concentrated populations (cities) and when they act they do it from several planes for a certain area. Let us mobilize on social networks to act simultaneously on each of their pollution, only unites we will be able to change things for the better.