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Author Topic: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS  (Read 221067 times)

buzneg

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2008, 07:23:46 AM »
A very big problem when talking about chemtrails is that jetplanes always leave a trail of vapour behind them. I remember seeing these all the time. Now I hear on the Alex Jones show people calling in and saying "I see chemtrails" But they don't describ them, and AJ, the percision cutting tool that he is, doesn't ask.


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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2008, 01:08:11 AM »
yeah but they don't stretch across the sky and spread out....normal contrails disappear after a while rarely becoming a cloud, maybe its something new in the fuel whatever it is it gives a kinda a reflective quality to the clouds. i have seen something weird as well recently, it looks kinda like a rainbow but it is just a small spot. it looks kind of like it might be a reflection off of the clouds on sunny days weird as that sounds, ill try to get a picture.

also on another note: would it possible to test the sunlight for intensity and spectrum changes? could you tell if it was water or something else this way?
  there have got to be other ways of testing for this, any ideas?
what about the refractive index of the air/clouds.... it be different than if it were just a contrail or normal clouds wouldn't it?

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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2008, 01:33:05 AM »

I see the commercial jets go by...their 'vapor trails' dissipate rather quickly.

The 'chem-trails' just hang there...eventually turning a clear blue sky into a milky white haze.

Words spoken on what I have noticed since they began have fallen on deaf ears until recently.

Who knows what effects this stuff will have on our genealogy in the future...that is if we have one the way we're going.

Regards...


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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2008, 03:34:59 AM »

I have posted many articles on the net about chem trails.  No less than a dozen times, my immediate area has been sprayed within minutes or hours of speaking out about them.  I have quite an archive detailing their harrassments.  Every single time we've been targeted (during daytime), it has been by large white C-130s or similar planes, unmarked but for the hypocritical display of a U.S. flag on the tail.  They've hit us with some low level runs and my mom almost died on one of them,  I was left coughing up bits of lung tissue for days, many in our small town were violently ill.  As of late, they are targeting much tighter with low level, late night runs using small planes.


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1794827/chemtrails_galore/


Anyone still unresponsive to the chemtrail threat in America by now.......has likely sold out due to cowardice.


Blessings in Christ,


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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2008, 04:36:04 AM »

The wizard of mars has oft demonstrated his unfailing ability to open a book.......Lord willing, he will yet open his eyes as well:


http://www.nogw.com/images/chemtrail_poster360usa.jpg


A simple google image search of the term: Chemtrail reveals that my asertions are backed with more than ample evidence.  While he and his sort always respond with juvenile character attacks time and again....as they have nothing of substance with which to counter the massive amounts of direct evidence.


Truth does not fear investigation......


Yahweh bless your heart W of M.



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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2009, 01:34:03 PM »

It was easy to tell that they were just using the old 'Blue Screen' technology.

Shows you how desperate they are getting to keep people off internet news sources.

The vslimev just gets greener.

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2010, 07:51:42 AM »
Chemtrails have becoming now a very big issue !

I realized it myself when at the 17th and 18th of April no airplaine
was fyling due to the vulcano cloud have been exploded and no air traffic
was over whole Europe.

The sky was so clear and blue I really can´t say, how great this was and you
really had a very nice sunshine during these days...

Now as the airtraffic has again started and the spraying continues the sky over
my area is again milky and stripped with chemtrails and also the air is not so fresh anymore...

We really have to stop this !

I uploaded now many videos to my
youtube account which show the undeniable proof, what is going on:

http://www.youtube.com/user/overunitydotcom#g/u

Compare this please to my own video of the 18th April 2010,
when there was no air traffic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq4-dGozMsU

I really miss these 2 days with no chemtrails and we really need to do something
politically to stop this as soon as possible.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2010, 08:41:28 PM »
Please post only technical answers to this thread.

I am deleting all the messages that makes fun of this topic
and tries to make it look delusional !

This is a serious threat to our health and we have to fight to stop it worldwide !

Thanks for your understanding.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2010, 10:53:35 PM »

Thank you for taking up the cause Stefan...this has been a major concern of mine for many years.

I was around before jets, and well recall their quickly dispersing 'vapor' trails...under any and ALL weather conditions.

So, when the chemtrails began, I noticed the change immediately.

Nobody seemed alarmed, and of course they disregard the facts and live on.

But now not so coincidentally, we have an epidemic of respiratory illnesses, COPD and athsma chief among them, and most are not able to put the chemical cause above their heads together with the effect in their lungs.


You may have noticed that when I delete nonconstructive and distracting posts, I am accused of being some type of power mad dictator.

Not by any respected members I might add.

It will be interesting to see what reaction, if any, that you get.

Regards...


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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2010, 02:52:17 PM »
Excellent Points Stefan.

I think this photo says it all.  Chemtrails in conjunction with Fluoride not only does a SLOW KILL, but it also makes people DOCILE.


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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2010, 08:56:26 PM »
fairly small scale chem delivery
but with 1000's of flights per day........

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=266359

written a few years ago
no reason for it to be any different today

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2010, 12:08:24 AM »
After the days of no air traffic, when the view from my work place was just stunning, we're back to general fogginess. 10 miles of foggy view in stead of 20 miles of crystal clear detail.

I can't believe a bit of kerosine can make that difference. Yet, no all days are full of chemtrails.

How big an operation must it be, to set up chemtrail devices on so many flights, some commercial? Or to sneak the chems into kerosine even. If people talk about buildings on the moon, surely they can talk about how to spot and arrest chemtrail flight, before and after operation?

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2010, 01:49:13 AM »
A very big problem when talking about chemtrails is that jetplanes always leave a trail of vapour behind them. I remember seeing these all the time. Now I hear on the Alex Jones show people calling in and saying "I see chemtrails" But they don't describ them, and AJ, the percision cutting tool that he is, doesn't ask.

i think most people know that chemtrails hang around a long time, whereas contrails don't.

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Re: GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2010, 02:52:07 AM »
Hi,
I wonder, when reading the following,
if the pilots don´t really know, what is going on ?

Can´t pilots look back behind their plane and see the huge exhaust ?

Does somebody have contacts to some commercial airkine pilots and can ask
them what they think about this ?
Many thanks.

From: http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails/Witness_1.html


For reasons you will understand as you read this I can not divulge my identity. I am an aircraft mechanic for a major airline.

I work at one of our maintenance bases located at a large airport. I have discovered some information that I think you will find important.

First I should tell you something about the "pecking order" among mechanics. It is important to my story and to the cause to which you have dedicated yourself.

Mechanics want to work on three things. The avionics, the engines, or the flight controls.

The mechanics that work on these systems are considered at the top of the "pecking order".

Next come the mechanics that work on the hydraulics and air conditioning systems. Then come the ones who work on the galley and other non-essential systems. But at the very bottom of the list are the mechanics that work on the waste disposal systems. No mechanic wants to work on the pumps, tanks, and pipes that are used to store the waste from the lavatories.

But at every airport where I have worked there are always 2 or 3 mechanics that volunteer to work on the lavatory systems. The other mechanics are happy to let them do it. Because of this you will have only 2 or 3 mechanics that work on these systems at any one airport. No one pays much attention to these guys and no mechanic socializes with another mechanic who only works on the waste systems. In fact I had never thought much about this situation until last month.

Like most airlines we have reciprocal agreements with the other airlines that fly into this airport. If they have a problem with a plane one of our mechanics will take care of it. Likewise if one of our planes has a problem at an airport where the other airline has a maintenance base, they will fix our plane.

One day last month I was called out from our base to work on a plane for another airline. When I got the call the dispatcher did not know what the problem was. When I got to the plane I found out that the problem was in waste disposal system. There was nothing for me to do but to crawl in and fix the problem. When I got into the bay I realized that something was not right. There were more tanks, pumps, and pipes then should have been there. At first I assumed that the system had been changed. It had been 10 years since I had worked on one. As I tried to find the problem I quickly realized the extra piping and tanks were not connected to the waste disposal system. I had just discovered this when another mechanic from my company showed up. It was one of the mechanics who usually works on these systems. I happily turned the job over to him. As I was leaving I asked him about the extra equipment. He told me to "worry about my end of the plane and let him worry about his!"

The next day I was on the company computer to look up a wiring schematic. While I was there I decided to look up the extra equipment I had found. To my amazement the manuals did not show any of the extra equipment I had seen with my own eyes the day before. I even tied in to the manufacturer files and still found nothing. Now I was really determined to find out what that equipment did.

The next week we had three of our planes in our main hanger for periodic inspection. There are mechanics crawling all over a plane during these inspections. I had just finished my shift and I decided to have a look at the waste system on one of our planes. With all the mechanics around I figured that no one would notice an extra one on the plane. Sure enough, the plane I choose had the extra equipment!

I began to trace the system of pipes, pumps, and tanks. I found what appeared to be the control unit for the system. It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind. I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.

The system had 1 large and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment but it looked like the large tank could hold 50 gallons. The tanks were connected to a fill and drain valve that passed through the fuselage just behind the drain valve for the waste system. When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain.

I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers. If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wires, about the size of your finger, extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces. These are the static discharge wicks. They are used to dissipate the static electric charge that builds up on a plane in flight. I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through these fake wicks.

It was while I was on the wing that one of the managers spotted me. He ordered me out of the hanger telling me that my shift was over and I had not been authorized any overtime.

The next couple of days were very busy and I had no time to continue my investigation. Late one afternoon, two days after my discovery, I was called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperwork.

About 30 minutes later I was paged to see the General Manager. When I went in his office I found that our union rep and two others who I did not know were waiting on me. He told me that a serious problem had been discovered. He said that I was being written up and suspended for turning in false paperwork. He handed me a disciplinary form stating that I had turned in false paperwork on the engine temperature sensor I had installed a few hours before. I was floored and began to protest. I told them that this was ridiculous and that I had done this work. The union rep spoke up then and recommended that we take a look at the plane and see if we could straighten it all out. It was at this time that I asked who the other two men were. The GM told me that they were airline safety inspectors but would not give me their names.

We proceeded to the plane, which should have been in the air but was parked on our maintenance ramp. We opened the engine cowling and the union rep pulled the sensor. He checked the serial number and told everyone that it was the old instrument. We then went to the parts bay and went back into the racks. The union rep checked my report and pulled from the rack a sealed box. He opened the box and pulled out the engine temperature sensor with the serial number of the one I had installed. I was told that I was suspended for a week without pay and to leave immediately.

I sat at home the first day of my suspension wondering what the hell had happened to me. That evening I received a phone call. The voice told me "Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no concern of yours you will lose your job. As it is I'm feeling generous, I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon" CLICK. Again I had to pick myself from off the floor. I made the connection that what had happened was directly connected to my tracing the mysterious piping. The next morning the General Manager called me. He said that due to my past excellent employment record that the suspension had been reduced to one day and that I should report back to work immediately. The only thing I could think of was what are they trying to hide and who are THEY!

That day at work went by as if nothing had happened. None of the other mechanics mentioned the suspension and my union rep told me not to talk about it. That night I logged onto the Internet to try to find some answers. I don't remember now how I got there but I came across your site. That's when it all came together. But the next morning at work I found a note inside my locked locker. It said, "Curiosity killed the cat. Don't be looking at Internet sites that are no concern of yours."

Well that's it. THEY are watching me.

Well you already know what they are doing. I don't know what they are spraying but I can tell you how they are doing it. I figure they are using the "honey trucks". These are the trucks that empty the waste from the lavatory waste tanks. The airports usually contract out this job and nobody goes near these trucks. Who wants to stand next a truck full of sh--. While these guys are emptying the waste tanks they are filling the tanks of the spray system. They know the planes flight path so they probably program the control unit to start spraying some amount of time after the plane reaches a certain altitude. The spray nozzles in the fake static wicks are so small that no one in the plane would see a thing.

God help us all,
A concerned citizen.