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Offline mikestocks2006

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #60 on: March 29, 2012, 05:17:38 AM »
Driving that car for 20 miles and up to 70mph, would require some substantial horsepower. Maybe in the dozens? Not sure how heavy that car was but sure it was not the most aerodynamic.
Looking at the specs of the tube rectifiers, they seem have a max power of 5 watts each for the filament
http://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_70l7gt.html
more here
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/70L7%20GT%20HALF%20WAVE%20RECTIFIER%20CIRCUITS-datasheet.html
Even 12 of them in a parallel configuration, can they handle the power requirements?
Thanks
Mike

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #61 on: March 29, 2012, 08:31:12 AM »
One horsepower is IIRC about 746 watts.  So in normal electric power obviously the tubes would not cut it.  However if he was using radiant energy that would be a whole different story.  I'll assume he was using radiant energy with a motor that could run from RE.  There is also some controversy over whether he actually used the 70L7 tubes. 

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #62 on: March 29, 2012, 11:41:32 AM »
The answer is simpler then you think. Motor was not ORDINARY motor, but modified. Now imagine 200W input amplification to 35kW INSIDE motor as a torque due to HUGE magnetic field GAIN.
See it ? Case closed.

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #63 on: March 29, 2012, 04:43:17 PM »
@forest:

I like the sound of that explanation. Exactly how would we go about building this so it would work?

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #64 on: March 29, 2012, 04:59:07 PM »
@forest:

I like the sound of that explanation. Exactly how would we go about building this so it would work?

truesearch


Look for Tariel Kapanadze videos then adapt, it is all Tesla methods

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2012, 09:34:30 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, guys, but I am of the impression that each time the rotor's windings in a DC motor are energized (induction), followed by the magnetic field's collapse, we have CEMF, which is actually radiant energy. Contemporary motors are designed to kill the CEMF, are they not?
Might Tesla's motor have harnessed the influx of RE from the collapsing spikes/mag field?
 
In this way, the aether itself is our real battery, with an endless supply of RE. All we need to do is to disturb it in the proper way with an imbalance (spike), and have a means to allow its radiant energy to rush into the system to give us real power.
 
I remember reading about Tesla inserting the steel rods into his little power box in the Pierce Arrow. Makes me think of Doc Stiffler tuning his finely wound SEC coils with ferrite rods to ge the proper frequency for resonance to power the SEC.
 
I wonder if there's a link that can be made between the rods for frequency tuning and the rest of Tesla's setup. If the rods slid into coils, could they have provided enough power to get some induction going?  Maybe whatever voltage developed with rods and coils might've been passed into tubes for stepping up before going to the electric motor?
 
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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2012, 12:19:46 AM »
Is there any reason to believe Tesla did not use a Tesla switch with four large batteries to power the motor ?
The batteries also being recharged all the time by a radiant energy collector like all the connected metal sheets on the car,
with the frame as the virtual ground.

If connected the right way wouldn't an induction motor become a generator when the car is decelerating as well ?

Where is the info about this from Tesla himself ? Or is the story just a story told by Tesla's nephew ?

Was Tesla's nephew wise in the ways of Tesla ? As in did he understand Tesla's Tech ?

What was the net uphill verses downhill distance on the trip Tesla took ? Was it more uphill than down or more downhill than up ?

What is it that makes people think if this story was true, that there would be no batteries. Tesla used batteries a lot.

I have yet to see any "official" information about this Pierce Arrow experiment.

Tesla was a smart man and if the story is true he was determined not to show people actually how it worked.
So in my opinion all the things he was seen to do were probably distractions anyway to hide the true nature of his invention.
That's what i would have done.

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Offline mikestocks2006

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2012, 03:41:17 AM »
...  There is also some controversy over whether he actually used the 70L7 tubes.
Hi e2matrix
Yes, according to at least one other account the 201A type were used, but they were of same order of magnitude in power handling capability as the 70L7.
 
The answer is simpler then you think. Motor was not ORDINARY motor, but modified. Now imagine 200W input amplification to 35kW INSIDE motor as a torque due to HUGE magnetic field GAIN.
See it ? Case closed.
Hi forest,
Do you have link or any book references regarding the amplification inside the motor and its modifications?
Thanks
Mike
 
BTW, the Lost Science book, has some pretty interesting/intriguing presentations about Tesla and many others.

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2012, 05:50:46 AM »
I also believe as Forest does. I think the ac induction motor was modified some way.

Being an AC motor, he most likely used the motor windings as the L in LC. but where was the C?  Bifilar wound motor?  ;]  If he had the motor windings in resonance, it should be extremely efficient.

Not sure. Just ideas.  ;]

mags

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« Reply #69 on: April 21, 2012, 05:13:24 AM »
I finally found something I had read a few years back about the possibility of Tesla using tubes in his "power box."  Not the most authoritative source, but it may shed light on some possibilities.  See:
http://keelynet.com/energy/teslafe2.htm
Bob

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #70 on: April 21, 2012, 09:30:51 PM »
I know that this is a little out of the subject but could anyone please help me to credible info about mr. Tesla and this meeting with the great pyramids of Giza(especially the sowecalled kheops pyramid) - please have patience wiht my poor english.

(if it could be of any interrest i would like to be helpfull with the TTP V12 project - but how and where (i am an electrician and radiomekanic.

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #71 on: April 21, 2012, 09:48:52 PM »
Jakob,
I don't know if this helps with your question:
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it can be seen then that the arc length separation between Tesla’s lab and the equator is harmonically tied in to the arc length separation between the Great Pyramid and the equator, via the primary numeric sequence of the sexagesimal system. And with it already previously shown that the latitude placement of the Great Pyramid has a distinct tie-in to the current Earth tropical year (x10) pulsation rate, that such an ‘ideal’ ratio of 1.296 (162/125) connects up the Great Pyramid latitude to that of the transmitter station established by Tesla; it is quite conceivable therefore that he was applying the same scientific principles of resonance applicable to the Earth, as the ancient Egyptians who built the Great pyramid.

Just as Tesla sought to construct a means to wirelessly transmit power, so too did the ancients with their own device in their own age. In both cases though, it was actively discovered that the physical placement of a power plant, in order that it achieve an optimum level of efficiency to tap into the natural power of the Earth through resonance, was dependent upon the device being situated at a special arc length of separation between it and the equator. Only certain key resonant intervals that cover the earth may be chosen. Any arbitrary placement would result in a very weak if not fatally flawed power plant.
Taken from:
http://www.ancient-world-mysteries.com/tesla.html
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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #72 on: April 22, 2012, 02:38:19 PM »
Anyway, back to topic ...just wondering if anyone has any comment on Jerry Decker's thoughts about Tesla and the tubes he might have used in this car, at this keelynet link:
  http://keelynet.com/energy/teslafe2.htm   I'm intrigued here, because if Steven Mark's TPU used tubes as well (as some say), then perhaps we need to look at this element more closely. I will post anything else I find on this item.
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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #73 on: April 22, 2012, 10:37:30 PM »
Frequency, tubes, earth's magnetic field...

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« Reply #74 on: April 22, 2012, 10:49:21 PM »
One more thing before running out the door...
The metal rods inserted into the power box keeps nagging at me. Reminds me of Doc Stiffler tuning his SEC coils with barium ferrite rods. Could Tesla's rods have served a similar purpose - maybe provided a minimum amount of voltage to tubes (a "kick"? [ hee haw :)]).
B

 

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