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Offline nueview

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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2010, 07:25:23 AM »

I have read three accounts of electric cars attributed to tesla in my life and two electric boats remote controled.
the first car was for edison electric which supplied motors for electric carraiges in new your prior to 1889 i remember my grandmother talking about riding in one as a young girl this was around 1905 if i am correct but still along time ago they were said to be the best. then i read a story about an engineer who worked for tesla in New York and he said the car in 1918 ran on batteries and had a motor designed to run at 30,000 Hertz with a fluid pump that drove the power train coupled to the motor it is said to have run from new york to Albany on a single charge and then the battery plates needed to be replaced. the third car is the one most talked about from 1939 from all i have read about it it had a box with twelve vacuum tubes and about a six foot antenna and two rods that completed a charging circuit there was no mention of a battery but this point i would not find a great omission as by that time people would expect to see a battery in a car if nothing more than to start it.
the boats are just large scale radio control models as for the patents and other articles i have read using multi wave carrier signals to control different channels for steering and throttle.
mallove believed the rods were similar to what he had created for supplying power.
others seem to think that this was a form of hairpin circuit to pull in radiant energy perhaps from local radio stations.
this is some of what i know about the cars but the time line fits for the work he was doing at the time.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2010, 08:04:12 AM »
It may have been possible that it was drawn from radio stations, but by 1939, the Marconi stations were down and RCA (magnetic) was up. Unless Tesla had a transmitter going at the time. Another thing to consider is that Tesla found a new way of extracting the energy used here. From what we might expect from a Tesla receiver, there would need to be a good earth ground connection. Unless the cars chassis was one that qualified, even a good amount of conductor dragging on the dirt roads couldnt possibly be conventional.
Or could the capacitance of the cars chassis to the earth along with the 6ft ant. possibly be a way of things being portable.

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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2010, 09:05:56 AM »

well it is pretty hard to keep in mind that the Borg atomic structure didn't come along until after 1910 so electrons weren't a problem in 1918 he was working for the government on radio  and vacuum tubes and there are stories that he learned how to turn off the eyes ability to see and in 1929 he was at a conference and made the statement that he could power the world from Niagara falls he had been asked about the hoover dam being a necessary project. so what did he know i once tried to build as many of his simple early devices as i could including his ring generator it made a square wave output and if wired correctly as in the right way for the desired effect it would make single wire power all it needed was two diodes and it would retrieve power from the line and one could read several volts with the meter and diodes but without the diodes it would produce no effect and the bare wire could be handled without any harm his understanding of how our world works is not common
he also called nuclear energy an abomination and spoke out against it. this man had true insight if we look at his prophecies alone he was very prophetic and very insightful i have read most of what is available about him and his work. some of his power retrieving circuits had to be insulated from ground and worked a quarter wave against a full wave and would charge to over several hundred voltspulled right out of the air he said the air was conductive above 600 volts is that why wire insulation is commonly rated for this voltage?
i would love to have this type of insight to the world of energy.
Martin

P.S. the picture is of the ring generator the rest was disassembled.

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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2010, 09:18:35 AM »
Thanks Nue
Thats awesome stuff. so from what you know, do you think there was a 6ft ant.? Because up until my post nobody mentioned it.
Mags

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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2010, 01:51:29 PM »
   If we have a blocking oscillator it's resistance is infinite to any ac scource that would cause the oscillator to oscillate.
I am not much of an engineer but if there is an ac scource even at low frequency and our oscillator is excited to this frequency then ac voltage will occur in the field of the oscillator.  Tesla built a coil and by careful geometric spacing of the conductors and mass of the copper he has an oscillator which has virtually no resistance losses due to the transmission losses between the inductor and capacitor in a lumped circuit oscillator.  Now about this virtual infinite ac resistor he places a primary.  If you look at his patents for wireless power transmission and forget about the generator end.  The receiver is a blocking oscillator with a coil around it.  The coil around it looks like a loop antennae to me.  Not a transformer secondary.  A receiver that picks up the voltage drop around the blocking oscillator. 

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« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2010, 02:06:22 PM »
Sparks
Im not sure what that means here. Is it associated with the car setup?
Mags

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« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2010, 02:32:47 PM »
Sparks
Im not discouraging the post you made, I just want to know how I can relate it to the Tesla car.
Thanks
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« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2010, 11:39:55 PM »
   If Tesla had one of these oscillating power capacitors on board.  Back somewhere in his lab he has the other end of the magnifying transmitter functioning.  This is up and going before he gets his receiver going.  The secondary loop antennae or scalar potential receiver around his blocking oscillator is feeeding a highfrequency motor.  The antennae on board the vehicle is capacitively coupled to the Earth .   The scalar ground wavefield is traversed and induces oscillations in his onboard pancake coil. resonant oscillator.  Distance isnt a problem because he has the entire Earth excited into a standing wave field.  The antennae is about 6 feet long so to traverse the node antinode or 1/4 wave length of the standing wave the transmitter would have to be operating at agout 37 megahertz.  These waves are not radiant transverse waves they are standing waves like one would find in a detuned piece of transmission line.  Only reason Tesla did it would be to figure out how much energy was lost because he didnt have a good ground on the moving car.  The voltage pickup on the receiver antennae is a function of the speed  and direction at which the car is moving or traversing the nodes.  This would create a frequncy and direction of current that is really messed up so a resonance system on board would have to be setup at the desired frequency to drive the motor.  The resonant pancake coil on board setup to ring at the frequency the motor is looking for.
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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2010, 12:41:17 AM »
Interesting sparks.Could be possible except Tesla stated that he used cosmic rays.In other case he should state that he is using his wireless power transmission....

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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2010, 02:02:44 AM »
      @Forest

    Maybe tesla didnt have to initiate the standing wave field in the Earth perhaps there is one already.  I beleive in a scalar energy field. Or energy density field.  Currents of pure energy flow from one pole to the other trying to reach balance.  When a star collapses we see the gamma radiation what we are unable to see is the scalar potential energy flowing into the vacated space about the collapsing star.  This is a huge hole in the energydensity field and will draw energy from whatever scources until it is filledup to the background energy levels.  Perhaps an oscillating system within a specific spacetime spot like his geometrically superimposed oscillator can create a relativity to the scalar potential field.  About this field we place various insulator conductor combinations to see what arises on them.  Tesla's radiant energy device seems to be such a device.  Perhaps the Earth exerts some sort of energy densisty pole that draws in power from the Cosmos.
 


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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2010, 02:53:41 AM »

yes i do remember that as part of his statement the cosmic rays moray said the same.
perhaps this is a misnomer you talked about moving through standing waves perhaps the earth is already doing this for us. and yes to the double capacitance as well i built a capacitive generator a while back and done properly it would produce plasma bubbles in a florescent tube i often wonder if this is not what light is all about current compressed at day time in upper atmosphere making it luminous. and drawn away at night dark it could be a matter of properly stressing the field.
the hairpin senario is seeming to become the better concept it this point in time.
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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2010, 04:25:53 AM »
Good thoughts and ideas guys. I read that after they demolished Teslas lab and tower, that he worked on receivers that were small portable and worked without transmitters. They receive a signal or freq that exists all around us, at ultra high freq.

Very good stuff guys.

Now I imagine that if the devices that received the transmitters freq and converted then to usable power, that they may only need some adjustments, or amplifier circuit, like in the car.

Mags

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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2010, 10:46:23 AM »
Hey guys, I just read some stuff from Bearden about using small amounts of potential from a battery, like taking spoonfuls of water from the ocean, yet not taking electrons from the battery.
In the Secrets Of Cold War Technologies it states that there was a 12v bat. in the car.
Is it possible that he utilized this Bearden Idea?  Bearden suggests using doped copper for the conductors and cap(spoonful from ocean) but that seems like hard to come by materials.
The Bearden material was The Final Secret Of Free Energy.

Mags

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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2010, 01:38:19 PM »
I have been wanting to build one of these for testing. I used to build saltwater HAWG's for high voltage and this is my variation to a new type HAWG called a Leyden Battery Capacitor.

if you can use it then please use it. it should give high voltage a very serious crack to it.

I must warn you though, if you handle high density capacitors of this type they can deliver a lethal discharge and burn you and possibly stop your heart, always short out the terminals with a resistor when not in use.

Jerry 8)

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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2010, 08:42:32 PM »

interesting design on the leyden jar i have not seen one like that before.
i know what you mean about a burn did it myself a few times by accident i was using distilled water as the dielectric in jars coated with foil one inside the other and water between them i used plastic peanut butter jars so yes i understand.

i see some of you are at the hairpin post and there are many talking about the joule thief circuit i guess it is a matter of how we look at things but it seems to me it is a form of hairpin circuit already.
as it seems to stack the magnetic in the toroid ferrite bead i think the idea of the hairpin is to get the current to oscillate in place there should then be some values required for the standing wave to tune

i want to make a post there but need to get all my thoughts together first and would require so many pictures that i have lost due to computer crash.

Martin

 

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