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Author Topic: Tesla Car and his nephew  (Read 46889 times)

Offline magnetoelastic

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2009, 07:49:00 PM »
Yeah, the 70L7 vacuum tube was not invented until 1939.  The Tesla Car is a myth.

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2009, 11:56:18 PM »
Has anyone came up with anything on this yet?

hey nightlife,

If you haven't had a chance to check out the thread at Energetic Forum on "Tesla's Wireless Transmission" this and many other items are there all related to his wireless work. The link is kinda in the middle of the 1931 Pierce Arrow .......

 http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3573-teslas-wireless-electricity-transmission-5.html#post47929

Regards,
Fuzzy
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2009, 05:46:52 PM »
 In reading through the following (http://www.scribd.com/doc/13040608/The-Researches-of-Nikola-Tesla-1894)
 I happened on to a section called OBTAINING DIRECT FROM ALTERNATING CURRENTS pg 409 is the start of that section. Where Tesla explains how he converts ac current into dc current with out diodes or rectifiers but instead uses cores and coils with secondaries as the path for the alternating current and the primary windings to be used for the dc current. If he was using tubes to create a crude inverter from dc (battery) current to which he powered a motor.He could use the above mentioned device to recharge his batteries while powering his motor if the device was placed between the inverter and the motor. The motor then becomes what looks to me to be a tank circuit with which the power is merely bounced back and forth between the batteries and the motor via the device which converts ac to dc. The tubes and four rods in the story which were removed from the magic box in the telsa car could have been the removable parts for the inversion from dc to ac and the moving parts of a custom variac that used the rods for contacts inside coils to control the motor rpm. he does show a tendency to want control over both stator and rotor field strength in his better motor designs to control the power curve and speed of his motors.
  Any thoughts anyone?

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2009, 08:27:08 PM »

hi all
i have studied this for many years and it appeared to me that tesla had made more than one car or motors for cars.
the first was a redesign of the DC motor for edison which were used in the early electric cars in new york.
the second was done about 1918 and was said to run on batteries at the same time it was said that he was working for a colonel stafford near albany new york state and that they were also working with ge or westinghouse on vaccuum tube development at albany.
this car of 1918 was as said to run on batteries and used a unigue fluid transmission so the motor could have been run at a constant speed it was said that the frequency was around 30000 htz if it contained 10 poles it would run about 3000 rpm or so i know that he experimented with generators haveing as many as 250 poles and any genset is a motor.
i have run induction motors with 60 cycle resonance and they do not have a power reduction for the work they can do but the input power is down by or to about 20 percent of normal input if the motor was wound better it may do better check out the rotoverter at.

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/rotoverter.htm

these folks are doing allot better than me so far with variable frequency drives and replaceing the squirrel cage with permanent magnets so as to achieve a locked rotor statis.

the last car was the one most people talk about but i think it used allot more tech than was mentioned up front a battery would not have seemed very out of place or much worth mentioning unless there wasn't one the fluid transmission could still have been geared to a clutch and pump giving better performance for fluid pressure.

i have allot more that i have collected but it gets bezarre from here so will leave it out it goes along with the joule thief stuff and his antenna tech.

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2009, 12:18:43 PM »
nueview
Do you have any info on the old dc motors?

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2009, 08:03:29 PM »
this is what i know about the DC motors that they were made with multiple poles and the commutator angle was altered to 36 degrees.
it sounds more like a universal type of motor i think that searching the early edison patents for the design is the best way to go as the work on these was done for edison and i did find some around the time period that seemed to make sense.
Martin

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2009, 11:43:41 AM »
Thank you

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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2009, 09:38:22 PM »

hi all
as i said before this is a topic that is most dear to my heart and think it is being covered up by country and industry if people want it they are going to have to work for it as it involves many studies some are most promising butch lafonte added much to the understanding of magnetics for me in ways he may not comprehend as have some of the magnet motor people as well as pirate at this post and IST and many others i want to thank all of them at this point because there perseverance has meant allot to me.
the earth battery ,magnet motors, joule thief, cold fussion, and so many other posts have all donated some small piece of this puzzle about this car and how it truly worked it seems to be getting much easier to understand what was done and a few things are left out still such as the nature of magnetic flow under certain parameters but for the most part i do not think this will hurt the outcome.
the motor design will be most critical and will draw on many disciplines i will try to gather this all together and post as much as i can but you should start by checking out the rotoverter.

martin

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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2009, 10:37:39 PM »
hi all
please check this out it is very interesting and believe it goes toward the tesla cars and please giv credit where it is due.

thank you Jesus for your good work on the thread you started.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.msg192429#msg192429

yours truly
Martin

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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2009, 07:39:16 PM »
hi all

i would like to thank pirate over at the joule thief thread for posting this video pay close attention to what is said.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4615804709108706714

Martin

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2010, 11:56:04 AM »
I find some of the stories have significant differences.
Some say there was 1 12 volt battery, others say noting of it.
Some say the box was mounted up under the dash, some say it was in the front seat.
Some say there was a 6 ft or 1.8 m antenna, others assume the 3 in rods are the antenna, and even go on to figure out the freq of those rods, but not the 6 footer.
Maybe the rods were a capacitor. Maybe they were ant. and the width had some to do with their freq range.
Maybe the 12v bat drove the heaters in the tubes.
Maybe the motor was built a special way.
This all could be able to come together through study of other ideas of Tesla. But it may be a long ride.

Magluvin

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2010, 08:03:53 PM »

the rods may not have been for what we think at all perhaps they were a tesla hairpin circuit use to create a standing scalar wave that he could work against with another field. one of the problems with fields is that there is no real binding not like matter  he was aware of this and often left hints to it saying the aether could be firmed with ac so far i have only found this to be partially correct but it still stands as a statement

there is a topic going on about permiability and it would do better to discuss this as some are to educated wanting to cram it down others throats but admit that there are flaws with the system i thought in science you identify a problem and then address it through logical steps this does not seem to be the case anymore.
Martin

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Re: Tesla Car and his nephew
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2010, 08:48:40 PM »
Another idea : iron rods were used as cores of adjustable coils. That would require an two oscillators synchronized properly.Very like Tesla made in patents.

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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2010, 12:49:42 AM »

that raises a very valid point two same resonant fields do not usually occupy the same space much like magnets.
Martin

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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2010, 06:05:50 AM »
We have to also think that maybe the AC motor is a critical part of the circuit.
Has anyone ever read that there was a 6ft/1.8m antenna? Or that there was a 12v bat in the back seat on the floor?
I believe it was one story that it was a 6 footer and another that it was 1.8m, which seem to coincide to be a possible truth.
Magluvin

 

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