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supermuble

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Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« on: December 15, 2008, 05:17:16 AM »
I've heard of solid state Bedini circuits. But does anyone have plans?
« Last Edit: December 15, 2008, 09:36:57 PM by supermuble »

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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2008, 08:48:40 PM »
HI Supermuble yes there are schematics you have to browse in this forum.I had found one in the past.
Search more.

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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2008, 03:47:30 PM »
I've heard of solid state Bedini circuits. But does anyone have plans?
Is this what they call the MEG, Motionless Electromagnetic Generator?
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf
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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2008, 04:51:45 PM »
Supermumbule,
If you do stumble
Upon this thread humble: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4057.msg75477#msg75477
Just give it a tumble
And your problems may crumble. :)

I think it is based on Bedini-like principles. Groundloop would be the best person to comment on it.
It's a great RE charger.
Good luck!
Bobby Smith

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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2009, 12:12:55 AM »
I have just finished building the solid state device this evening. I have been sternly warned not to give out the schematic to anyone, but it is available in the Bedini-Bearden Free Energy Generation book.

I decided to test the output with the source 12V battery before attaching the destination battery. The circuit output terminals gives approx 205-211 Volts DC and the trifilar coilsgive a constant high pitched whine "Deeeeeeeeeeeeeee".

When I connect the destination battery (a small 12V 18Ah battery) to the circuit the 200 v reading disappears and the voltage started rising over the past half and hour from 10.40V to 13.16V (currently) on the destination battery. Also I checked and found that the circuit produces NO CURRENT when it is charging. Most noticeable is that the sound given off by the coils has changed to a "De-de-de-de-de-de-de" sound while still at the same pitch as before - maybe this is the voltage pulsing like the Stan Meyer circuit?

I will continue to monitor this...

-Steve

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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2009, 05:25:01 AM »
Ok, I built a prototype.

I have found that if you are getting a high pitched loud whine coming from the coil, then you are using current. The louder the whine, the more current. You can take a 1 ohm resistor and place it across your leads. With a 1 ohm resistor on the charging output wire, you should see the voltage drop to a level that is less than 1 volt. This is per Bedini's recommendation. He might have changed his methods since this information was presented though.

My circuit puts out about 95% of the power that is inputted. I am only losing about 5% of the energy through heating the coil windings, the transistors get slightly warm, and there are other various losses. I am using black sand and expoxy for the core and a trifilar winding as well. The over unity comes from the batteries, at least that is what is supposed to happen, if you have good batteries. These chargers will boil a battery in about 5 or 10 minutes once it is fully charged and you hook it up. I have less about somewhere between 0.25 and 1.00 ohms resistance across the coil windings - they are hooked in paralell with 3 TIP3055 transistors. I'm only getting 150 volts regardless of the current input. But this charges about 100 times better than a tiny coil putting out 400 volts. Using thicker wire charges must faster, even with less voltage. With this charger, I also charged 4 AA batteries.




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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2009, 06:17:31 AM »
Terrorists beware!~
 ;D


Now, what exactly is a Bedini machine anyway -I've hear these rumor's that the machine is a hoax.

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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2009, 05:39:57 PM »
can you post the scamatics so that we can try this circuit.
what is your input vs. output in terms of cop.
who’s  circuit is it anyway.
thanks in advance.
Ok, I built a prototype.

I have found that if you are getting a high pitched loud whine coming from the coil, then you are using current. The louder the whine, the more current. You can take a 1 ohm resistor and place it across your leads. With a 1 ohm resistor on the charging output wire, you should see the voltage drop to a level that is less than 1 volt. This is per Bedini's recommendation. He might have changed his methods since this information was presented though.

My circuit puts out about 95% of the power that is inputted. I am only losing about 5% of the energy through heating the coil windings, the transistors get slightly warm, and there are other various losses. I am using black sand and expoxy for the core and a trifilar winding as well. The over unity comes from the batteries, at least that is what is supposed to happen, if you have good batteries. These chargers will boil a battery in about 5 or 10 minutes once it is fully charged and you hook it up. I have less about somewhere between 0.25 and 1.00 ohms resistance across the coil windings - they are hooked in paralell with 3 TIP3055 transistors. I'm only getting 150 volts regardless of the current input. But this charges about 100 times better than a tiny coil putting out 400 volts. Using thicker wire charges must faster, even with less voltage. With this charger, I also charged 4 AA batteries.





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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2009, 11:41:20 AM »
Hmmm, not tried the 1 ohm resistor yet, but I had the setup 'charging' for 24 hrs and then I hooked up the 'charged' battery to a 300W inverter. Unfortunately it seems that there is only a surface charge applied to the battery as it would not power an 8W device and the inverter low battery alarm came on and checking the battery voltage it was 10.4 volts.

I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, or do I need to keep trying to charge with the bedini, or do I need to try charging with a traditional charger inbetween using the bedini?


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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2009, 08:41:07 PM »
I call radiant chargers "Bedini" chargers, since John Bedini has studied this type of charging more than any other public figure that i know of.

Radiant charging, or Bedini charging, is simply high voltage, low current charging. The energy comes from the collapsing magnetic field in a given coil of wire. When a coil collapses, you get something called "flyback voltage" which is not the same as "back EMF" Back EMF carries current, which is in opposition to the applied current. Flyback voltage is very quick and reaches very high voltages.

Back EMF will occur when you gradually reduce the magnetic flux in a given coil of wire. Flyback voltage occurs when you "rapidly" switch off the magnetic field in a given inductor coil. Rapid switching can damage to sensitive components since rapid DC voltages in inductors causes high flyback voltages to be created in a given inductor (coil of wire). You can use flyback voltage to charge batteries. This is called "radiant charging." Radiant charging has very high voltage, but low current, so you cannot damage your batteries by overheating them, or overcharging them. High voltage tends to desulphate the battery, even when the battery is tested and found to be defective. Flyback voltage charges a battery, regardless of the internal resistance of the battery. If the battery is old and crusty, the flyback voltage doesn't care, it sends the same high voltage into the battery and forces it to charge.

I am NOT an expert on radiant charging and have very little experience. So as to why it works so good for charging batteries, I won't try to go into anymore detail. The schematic I used is shown at the link above in this post.

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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2013, 01:59:50 AM »
Hi guys, just a follow up. I noticed this article is still here, and it's been 4 years, that's the beauty of the web! Everything you type stays forever.


After countless tests I came up with a very powerful radiant charger called the HHO Pulse Charger V2.0, it uses off the shelf parts. Take a look at my youtube videos to see it in operation.


Search for HHO Pulse Charger V2.0


Or visit my webstore click here for instructions. http://ritalie.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=14

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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2013, 03:09:30 AM »
Hey Super

One thing you can do to improve your 'sales' of PDFs is to give more details in your vid.

Theres probably one detail that was incorrect. The 10 diodes in parallel are really the opposite of the HV diode from the microwave. The microwave diode has diodes in series to increase the 'Peak Inverse Voltage', but the amp rating is about 1 amp, about equal to one UF4007 diode. Your 10 diodes in parallel have a bout a 10 amp rating as a whole at 1000v PIV. The microwave diode is in the range of 9KV PIV but still only at 1 amp. In the microwave transformer, the the diode is used on the secondary, the winding with the fine wire and many turns.

So the MW diode can be used in place of the single UF4007 and probably be a better choice as the secondary voltages of that transformer(if the input is 120v) can be near or even over 2KV. The UF4007 is only 1KV. Or you can use 2 or 3 in series to increase the PIV to 2k or 3k, just to be safe. ;)

Ok, back to the more details....

I see that you are not 'fully' describing the circuit(schematic, etc.), otherwise people wont need to buy your PDF for $20. 

But without some important details, like what is the input consumption of the device vs the quantity of gas produced.  These things wont hurt sales or give any secrets.

Also showing such a short run time is a bit discouraging. I dont think Ive ever seen a run time as short in vids of HHO.   ;)


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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2013, 07:57:13 PM »
here is some plans that i bought and willing to share with everybody.

In pdf u have plans for simple solid state bedini circuit.

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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2013, 10:06:47 AM »
Radiant power! How lovely does it sound. Actually, almost any newphy in the OU quest starts with Bedini's contraptions and fancy terminology and with the correct dosage of conspiry theories tend to be mystified by simple facts that an experienced in the electric/electronic profession can hardly be amazed.


Bedini's radiant chargers are nothing more that pulse chargers that exhibit desulfating properties (they are many better desulfators or battery rejuvenators than Bedini's as the AC desulfator ) hence rejuvenate old batteries.


Sorry but cant help it. Every time that i see, radiant this and radiant that, a smell a book seller!!


Cheers,



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Re: Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2013, 11:24:17 AM »
Terrorists beware!~
 ;D


Now, what exactly is a Bedini machine anyway -I've hear these rumor's that the machine is a hoax.
Look at http://rpmgt.org/JoinBediniList.htm. If it was a hoax they certainly not propose help to get it working.